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From: "David Hildenbrand (Arm)" <david@kernel.org>
To: Kairui Song <ryncsn@gmail.com>
Cc: linux-mm@kvack.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
	Lorenzo Stoakes <ljs@kernel.org>, Zi Yan <ziy@nvidia.com>,
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	Youngjun Park <youngjun.park@lge.com>,
	Shivam Kalra <shivamkalra98@zohomail.in>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v3 09/18] mm/huge_memory: move anon_vma and filemap management into split helpers
Date: Mon, 7 Sep 2026 21:56:11 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <9ab052f8-510d-4d45-be56-f49efca595dd@kernel.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAMgjq7AUeb0nrpt0A=EP1ZCX8SBeE5unYQ6LnhDz0BO8KiqaOg@mail.gmail.com>

On 9/7/26 19:55, Kairui Song wrote:
> On Mon, Sep 7, 2026 at 8:36 PM David Hildenbrand (Arm) <david@kernel.org> wrote:
>>
>> On 8/30/26 17:23, Kairui Song wrote:
>>>
>>> We can keep it where it is right now, but this patch is moving the
>>> anon_vma_lock_write and i_mmap_lock_read into the two anon / file
>>> helpers seperately, so keeping the folio_expected_ref_count check
>>> outside and before the helper call will cause a potential higher
>>> false positive / negative rate of this check? Leads to unnecessary
>>> call to unmap_folio.
>>>
>>> How about moving the folio_expected_ref_count check into
>>> unmap_folio since the purpose of the ref check is to avoid
>>> unnecessary unmap? No more duplication that way.
>>
>> I think the crucial part (for anon folios) is to also check after we unmapped.
>>
>> See __folio_migrate_mapping(), where we don't do the !folio_ref_freeze() in case
>> we tun into the !mapping scenario.
> 
> If I understand you correctly, I think we are fine as is? The
> folio_expected_ref_count() check here is just a racy check to avoid
> the PMD split for a folio that cannot be split anyway, not a gate.
> 
> The gate is the folio_ref_freeze() immediately after unmap_folio() in
> __folio_freeze_split_anon() (only a local_irq_disable() in between).
> For an unmapped anon folio folio_expected_ref_count() is uses
> folio_swapcache_ref_count(). It might be worth optimizing, but that
> could be done later.
> 
> Or did you mean something else for the anon case?

I thought for anon folios during migration it actually serves the purpose *after
unmap* to detect any remaining GUP references (etc). But I might be wrong. I'll
look at v4.

-- 
Cheers,

David


  reply	other threads:[~2026-09-07 19:56 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 80+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2026-08-20 18:55 [PATCH v3 00/18] mm/huge_memory: clean up folio split and lift swapcache split limits Kairui Song via B4 Relay
2026-08-20 18:55 ` [PATCH v3 01/18] mm/swap: fix off-by-one in swap cache replace sanity check Kairui Song via B4 Relay
2026-08-23  8:53   ` Barry Song
2026-08-27 14:13   ` Kiryl Shutsemau
2026-08-27 15:57   ` David Hildenbrand (Arm)
2026-08-20 18:55 ` [PATCH v3 02/18] mm/huge_memory: fix rejection of swap cache folios with a mapping Kairui Song via B4 Relay
2026-08-27  8:46   ` Barry Song
2026-08-27  9:31     ` Kairui Song
2026-08-27 14:33   ` Kiryl Shutsemau
2026-08-27 15:58     ` David Hildenbrand (Arm)
2026-08-27 14:36   ` Kiryl Shutsemau
2026-08-27 16:01     ` David Hildenbrand (Arm)
2026-08-27 16:00   ` David Hildenbrand (Arm)
2026-08-27 17:02     ` Kiryl Shutsemau
2026-08-27 17:11       ` David Hildenbrand (Arm)
2026-08-27 17:07     ` Kairui Song
2026-08-20 18:55 ` [PATCH v3 03/18] mm/huge_memory: invert folio_ref_freeze() check to reduce indentation Kairui Song via B4 Relay
2026-08-27  9:05   ` Barry Song
2026-08-27 14:39   ` Kiryl Shutsemau
2026-08-27 16:02   ` David Hildenbrand (Arm)
2026-08-20 18:55 ` [PATCH v3 04/18] mm/huge_memory: split the routine for splitting anon and file folio Kairui Song via B4 Relay
2026-08-26  1:31   ` Zi Yan
2026-08-27 14:58   ` Kiryl Shutsemau
2026-08-27 17:19     ` Kairui Song
2026-08-27 16:19   ` David Hildenbrand (Arm)
2026-08-27 17:17     ` Kairui Song
2026-08-27 19:05       ` David Hildenbrand (Arm)
2026-08-20 18:55 ` [PATCH v3 05/18] mm/huge_memory: rename __split_unmapped_folio() to __split_frozen_folio() Kairui Song via B4 Relay
2026-08-27 15:06   ` Kiryl Shutsemau
2026-08-27 16:22     ` David Hildenbrand (Arm)
2026-08-27 17:21       ` Kairui Song
2026-08-20 18:55 ` [PATCH v3 06/18] mm/huge_memory: consolidate irq and locking for folio split Kairui Song via B4 Relay
2026-08-27 15:15   ` Kiryl Shutsemau
2026-08-27 16:24   ` David Hildenbrand (Arm)
2026-08-20 18:55 ` [PATCH v3 07/18] mm/huge_memory: move EOF trimming into the file split helper Kairui Song via B4 Relay
2026-08-27 16:25   ` David Hildenbrand (Arm)
2026-08-31  1:08   ` Kiryl Shutsemau
2026-08-20 18:55 ` [PATCH v3 08/18] mm/huge_memory: move unmap and remap into the split helpers Kairui Song via B4 Relay
2026-08-27 16:32   ` David Hildenbrand (Arm)
2026-08-27 17:35     ` Kairui Song
2026-08-27 19:09       ` David Hildenbrand (Arm)
2026-08-20 18:55 ` [PATCH v3 09/18] mm/huge_memory: move anon_vma and filemap management into " Kairui Song via B4 Relay
2026-08-27 16:36   ` David Hildenbrand (Arm)
2026-08-27 17:37     ` Kairui Song
2026-08-30 15:23     ` Kairui Song
2026-09-07 12:36       ` David Hildenbrand (Arm)
2026-09-07 17:55         ` Kairui Song
2026-09-07 19:56           ` David Hildenbrand (Arm) [this message]
2026-08-20 18:55 ` [PATCH v3 10/18] mm/huge_memory: move memcg switch into the file split helper Kairui Song via B4 Relay
2026-08-27 16:37   ` David Hildenbrand (Arm)
2026-08-20 18:55 ` [PATCH v3 11/18] mm/huge_memory: allow splitting mappingless swap cache folios Kairui Song via B4 Relay
2026-08-26  1:55   ` Zi Yan
2026-08-27 16:41   ` David Hildenbrand (Arm)
2026-08-27 17:41     ` Kairui Song
2026-08-27 19:16       ` David Hildenbrand (Arm)
2026-08-27 19:29         ` David Hildenbrand (Arm)
2026-08-20 18:55 ` [PATCH v3 12/18] mm/huge_memory: add kerneldoc for the split helpers Kairui Song via B4 Relay
2026-08-26  1:57   ` Zi Yan
2026-08-27 16:45   ` David Hildenbrand (Arm)
2026-08-27 17:43     ` Kairui Song
2026-08-20 18:55 ` [PATCH v3 13/18] mm/huge_memory: drop the unused do_lru argument of the file split helper Kairui Song via B4 Relay
2026-08-26  1:57   ` Zi Yan
2026-08-27 16:45   ` David Hildenbrand (Arm)
2026-08-20 18:55 ` [PATCH v3 14/18] mm/huge_memory: clean up after-split folio freeing in __folio_split Kairui Song via B4 Relay
2026-08-27 16:48   ` David Hildenbrand (Arm)
2026-08-27 17:47     ` Kairui Song
2026-08-27 19:33       ` David Hildenbrand (Arm)
2026-08-20 18:55 ` [PATCH v3 15/18] mm/huge_memory: lift order-0 restriction for swapcache split Kairui Song via B4 Relay
2026-08-27 16:51   ` David Hildenbrand (Arm)
2026-08-27 17:48     ` Kairui Song
2026-08-27 20:22       ` David Hildenbrand (Arm)
2026-08-30 13:19         ` Kairui Song
2026-08-20 18:55 ` [PATCH v3 16/18] mm/huge_memory: clarify supported split orders in comment Kairui Song via B4 Relay
2026-08-26  2:02   ` Zi Yan
2026-08-27 17:48     ` Kairui Song
2026-08-27 16:54   ` David Hildenbrand (Arm)
2026-08-20 18:55 ` [PATCH v3 17/18] mm/huge_memory: count only swap cache refs in anon folio split Kairui Song via B4 Relay
2026-08-20 18:55 ` [PATCH v3 18/18] mm/huge_memory: drop the redundant mapping argument of __split_frozen_folio Kairui Song via B4 Relay
2026-08-26  2:06   ` Zi Yan
2026-08-27 12:19 ` [PATCH v3 00/18] mm/huge_memory: clean up folio split and lift swapcache split limits Yeoreum Yun

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