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From: Jaegeuk Kim <jaegeuk@kernel.org>
To: Matthew Wilcox <willy@infradead.org>
Cc: Theodore Tso <tytso@mit.edu>,
	linux-api@vger.kernel.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	linux-f2fs-devel@lists.sourceforge.net,
	Christoph Hellwig <hch@infradead.org>,
	linux-mm@kvack.org, linux-fsdevel@vger.kernel.org,
	Akilesh Kailash <akailash@google.com>,
	Christian Brauner <christian@brauner.io>
Subject: Re: [f2fs-dev] [PATCH v2] f2fs: another way to set large folio by remembering inode number
Date: Fri, 22 May 2026 14:04:59 +0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <ahBii6bk0KbK_NHV@google.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <ahBSXyOi9b1jxNkX@casper.infradead.org>

On 05/22, Matthew Wilcox wrote:
> On Fri, May 22, 2026 at 03:59:45AM +0000, Jaegeuk Kim wrote:
> > On 05/21, Matthew Wilcox wrote:
> > > On Thu, May 21, 2026 at 11:57:48AM -0400, Theodore Tso wrote:
> > > > So let me get this straight.  This is a magic xattr interface which is
> > > > not even persisted in the file system, but instead sets a 32-bit
> > > > bitmask in the struct inode which disappears once the inode gets
> > > > flushed from the inode stack.  And it uses a generic xattr name,
> > > > "user.fadvise".
> > > > 
> > > > There's no way in *hell* any other file system is likely to adopt such
> > > > a broken interface, so why didn't you just use an ioctl to set this
> > > > magic f2fs-specific flag?
> > > 
> > > I mean, yes, this API is horrendous.  But it's just another example of
> > > f2fs thinking it's somehow special and not just enabling large folios
> > > like other filesystems do.  This hurts everyone, not just people who use
> > > f2fs.
> > 
> > >From the production viewpoint, I raised a concern on setting large folio by
> > default, since that exhausts lots of high-order pages, which were needed for
> > essential system services and critical apps.
> 
> Random fears or actual data?

This was a quick buddyinfo right after booting the device.

Before:
Node 0, zone   Normal  22684  42284  28704  16901   9515   4566   1854    673    181     36    758

After disabling EROFS large folio:
Node 0, zone   Normal   8486   4732   2175   1161    697    272     82     19      3      1    856

> 
> 
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  reply	other threads:[~2026-05-22 14:05 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 20+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
     [not found] <20260409134538.3692605-1-jaegeuk@kernel.org>
     [not found] ` <adhPZxtbZxgU-37v@google.com>
2026-04-14  8:02   ` [PATCH v2] f2fs: another way to set large folio by remembering inode number Christoph Hellwig
2026-04-15 16:44     ` Jaegeuk Kim
2026-04-15 17:15       ` Matthew Wilcox
2026-04-15 22:02         ` Jaegeuk Kim
2026-04-15 23:49           ` Darrick J. Wong
2026-04-16  1:19             ` Jaegeuk Kim
2026-05-21  8:51         ` Christoph Hellwig
2026-05-21 15:57           ` Theodore Tso
2026-05-21 17:42             ` Matthew Wilcox
2026-05-22  3:59               ` Jaegeuk Kim
2026-05-22 12:55                 ` Matthew Wilcox
2026-05-22 14:04                   ` Jaegeuk Kim [this message]
2026-05-22  3:32             ` [f2fs-dev] " Jaegeuk Kim
2026-05-22  3:53               ` Eric Biggers
2026-05-22  4:02                 ` Jaegeuk Kim
2026-05-22 10:01                 ` Christian Brauner
2026-05-22 14:11               ` Theodore Tso
2026-05-22 17:08                 ` Jaegeuk Kim
2026-05-22 22:41                   ` Theodore Tso
2026-05-22  9:59             ` Christian Brauner

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