From: Jaegeuk Kim <jaegeuk@kernel.org>
To: Matthew Wilcox <willy@infradead.org>
Cc: Theodore Tso <tytso@mit.edu>,
linux-api@vger.kernel.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
linux-f2fs-devel@lists.sourceforge.net,
Christoph Hellwig <hch@infradead.org>,
linux-mm@kvack.org, linux-fsdevel@vger.kernel.org,
Akilesh Kailash <akailash@google.com>,
Christian Brauner <christian@brauner.io>
Subject: Re: [f2fs-dev] [PATCH v2] f2fs: another way to set large folio by remembering inode number
Date: Fri, 22 May 2026 14:04:59 +0000 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <ahBii6bk0KbK_NHV@google.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <ahBSXyOi9b1jxNkX@casper.infradead.org>
On 05/22, Matthew Wilcox wrote:
> On Fri, May 22, 2026 at 03:59:45AM +0000, Jaegeuk Kim wrote:
> > On 05/21, Matthew Wilcox wrote:
> > > On Thu, May 21, 2026 at 11:57:48AM -0400, Theodore Tso wrote:
> > > > So let me get this straight. This is a magic xattr interface which is
> > > > not even persisted in the file system, but instead sets a 32-bit
> > > > bitmask in the struct inode which disappears once the inode gets
> > > > flushed from the inode stack. And it uses a generic xattr name,
> > > > "user.fadvise".
> > > >
> > > > There's no way in *hell* any other file system is likely to adopt such
> > > > a broken interface, so why didn't you just use an ioctl to set this
> > > > magic f2fs-specific flag?
> > >
> > > I mean, yes, this API is horrendous. But it's just another example of
> > > f2fs thinking it's somehow special and not just enabling large folios
> > > like other filesystems do. This hurts everyone, not just people who use
> > > f2fs.
> >
> > >From the production viewpoint, I raised a concern on setting large folio by
> > default, since that exhausts lots of high-order pages, which were needed for
> > essential system services and critical apps.
>
> Random fears or actual data?
This was a quick buddyinfo right after booting the device.
Before:
Node 0, zone Normal 22684 42284 28704 16901 9515 4566 1854 673 181 36 758
After disabling EROFS large folio:
Node 0, zone Normal 8486 4732 2175 1161 697 272 82 19 3 1 856
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next prev parent reply other threads:[~2026-05-22 14:05 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 20+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
[not found] <20260409134538.3692605-1-jaegeuk@kernel.org>
[not found] ` <adhPZxtbZxgU-37v@google.com>
2026-04-14 8:02 ` [PATCH v2] f2fs: another way to set large folio by remembering inode number Christoph Hellwig
2026-04-15 16:44 ` Jaegeuk Kim
2026-04-15 17:15 ` Matthew Wilcox
2026-04-15 22:02 ` Jaegeuk Kim
2026-04-15 23:49 ` Darrick J. Wong
2026-04-16 1:19 ` Jaegeuk Kim
2026-05-21 8:51 ` Christoph Hellwig
2026-05-21 15:57 ` Theodore Tso
2026-05-21 17:42 ` Matthew Wilcox
2026-05-22 3:59 ` Jaegeuk Kim
2026-05-22 12:55 ` Matthew Wilcox
2026-05-22 14:04 ` Jaegeuk Kim [this message]
2026-05-22 3:32 ` [f2fs-dev] " Jaegeuk Kim
2026-05-22 3:53 ` Eric Biggers
2026-05-22 4:02 ` Jaegeuk Kim
2026-05-22 10:01 ` Christian Brauner
2026-05-22 14:11 ` Theodore Tso
2026-05-22 17:08 ` Jaegeuk Kim
2026-05-22 22:41 ` Theodore Tso
2026-05-22 9:59 ` Christian Brauner
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