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From: Alistair Popple <apopple@nvidia.com>
To: Zi Yan <ziy@nvidia.com>
Cc: "David Hildenbrand (Arm)" <david@kernel.org>,
	 Balbir Singh <balbirs@nvidia.com>,
	John Hubbard <jhubbard@nvidia.com>,
	 Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
	Jason Gunthorpe <jgg@ziepe.ca>, Peter Xu <peterx@redhat.com>,
	 Mike Rapoport <rppt@kernel.org>,
	LKML <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	linux-mm@kvack.org,  Sourab Gupta <sougupta@nvidia.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH] mm/gup: fix GUP-fast fallback for NULL-mapping order-0 folios
Date: Thu, 11 Jun 2026 10:49:59 +1000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <aioFswTdZCdPGjag@nvdebian.thelocal> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <7A8AEDE1-C28F-4490-8A2E-72E4E8D0E78F@nvidia.com>

On 2026-06-06 at 02:20 +1000, Zi Yan <ziy@nvidia.com> wrote...
> On 5 Jun 2026, at 5:22, David Hildenbrand (Arm) wrote:
> 
> > On 6/5/26 07:17, Alistair Popple wrote:
> >> On 2026-05-15 at 10:09 +1000, Balbir Singh <balbirs@nvidia.com> wrote...
> >>> On 4/9/26 17:52, David Hildenbrand (Arm) wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>> Hm, what if secretmem folio just got truncated? I hate to rely on some
> >>>> handling in the caller to detect truncation differently during GUP-fast,
> >>>> but this function returning "true".
> >>>>
> >>>
> >>> Can secretmem folios be truncated? I assume you are referring to
> >>> ftruncate(), I am looking at the setattr implementation of secretmem
> >>> and it does not seem like it can be truncated.
> >>>
> >>>> Zi is working on a way to distinguish folios from non-folio things: that
> >>>> we can identify whatever was added through vm_insert_page().
> >>>>
> >>>> Because that's really the key problem here: vm_insert_page() pages are
> >>>> not actually folios, they just look like a folio today, but looking at
> >>>> fields like ->mapping does not make any sense.
> >>>>
> >>>
> >>> I still think this is a short term fix worth having until we get
> >>> Zi's fixes
> >>
> >> Agreed - this clearly results in a performance regression and we have customers
> >> reporting it as such. I think Zi might be out of the office atm but when I last
> >> spoke to him he agreed this fix should go in for now and his approach will come
> >> later.
> >
> > He should be back now. But yeah, let's get this fix in.
> 
> Right, I will work on my solution soon. Meanwhile, this change
> is simpler and can be easily back ported.

Thanks.

> BTW, should it be back ported to older kernels?

Yes to any with f002882ca369 ("mm: merge folio_is_secretmem() and
folio_fast_pin_allowed() into gup_fast_folio_allowed()") - we have got bug
reports as a result of the lowered perf that commit causes.

 - Alistair

> Best Regards,
> Yan, Zi


  reply	other threads:[~2026-06-11  0:50 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 17+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2026-04-09  1:46 [PATCH] mm/gup: fix GUP-fast fallback for NULL-mapping order-0 folios John Hubbard
2026-04-09  2:07 ` Andrew Morton
2026-04-09  2:09   ` John Hubbard
2026-04-09  7:52 ` David Hildenbrand (Arm)
2026-04-09 15:05   ` Zi Yan
2026-04-09 15:11     ` David Hildenbrand (Arm)
2026-04-09 16:55       ` Zi Yan
2026-04-09 17:31         ` David Hildenbrand (Arm)
2026-04-09 17:33           ` Zi Yan
2026-05-15  0:09   ` Balbir Singh
2026-05-18  9:42     ` David Hildenbrand (Arm)
2026-06-05  5:17     ` Alistair Popple
2026-06-05  9:22       ` David Hildenbrand (Arm)
2026-06-05 16:20         ` Zi Yan
2026-06-11  0:49           ` Alistair Popple [this message]
2026-06-11  1:12             ` Balbir Singh
2026-06-11  7:35               ` David Hildenbrand (Arm)

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