From: Balbir Singh <balbirs@nvidia.com>
To: Alistair Popple <apopple@nvidia.com>
Cc: Zi Yan <ziy@nvidia.com>,
"David Hildenbrand (Arm)" <david@kernel.org>,
John Hubbard <jhubbard@nvidia.com>,
Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
Jason Gunthorpe <jgg@ziepe.ca>, Peter Xu <peterx@redhat.com>,
Mike Rapoport <rppt@kernel.org>,
LKML <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
linux-mm@kvack.org, Sourab Gupta <sougupta@nvidia.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH] mm/gup: fix GUP-fast fallback for NULL-mapping order-0 folios
Date: Thu, 11 Jun 2026 11:12:46 +1000 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <aioG_ko6HoOv8qlc@parvat> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <aioFswTdZCdPGjag@nvdebian.thelocal>
On Thu, Jun 11, 2026 at 10:49:59AM +1000, Alistair Popple wrote:
> On 2026-06-06 at 02:20 +1000, Zi Yan <ziy@nvidia.com> wrote...
> > On 5 Jun 2026, at 5:22, David Hildenbrand (Arm) wrote:
> >
> > > On 6/5/26 07:17, Alistair Popple wrote:
> > >> On 2026-05-15 at 10:09 +1000, Balbir Singh <balbirs@nvidia.com> wrote...
> > >>> On 4/9/26 17:52, David Hildenbrand (Arm) wrote:
> > >>>>
> > >>>> Hm, what if secretmem folio just got truncated? I hate to rely on some
> > >>>> handling in the caller to detect truncation differently during GUP-fast,
> > >>>> but this function returning "true".
> > >>>>
> > >>>
> > >>> Can secretmem folios be truncated? I assume you are referring to
> > >>> ftruncate(), I am looking at the setattr implementation of secretmem
> > >>> and it does not seem like it can be truncated.
> > >>>
> > >>>> Zi is working on a way to distinguish folios from non-folio things: that
> > >>>> we can identify whatever was added through vm_insert_page().
> > >>>>
> > >>>> Because that's really the key problem here: vm_insert_page() pages are
> > >>>> not actually folios, they just look like a folio today, but looking at
> > >>>> fields like ->mapping does not make any sense.
> > >>>>
> > >>>
> > >>> I still think this is a short term fix worth having until we get
> > >>> Zi's fixes
> > >>
> > >> Agreed - this clearly results in a performance regression and we have customers
> > >> reporting it as such. I think Zi might be out of the office atm but when I last
> > >> spoke to him he agreed this fix should go in for now and his approach will come
> > >> later.
> > >
> > > He should be back now. But yeah, let's get this fix in.
> >
> > Right, I will work on my solution soon. Meanwhile, this change
> > is simpler and can be easily back ported.
>
> Thanks.
>
> > BTW, should it be back ported to older kernels?
>
> Yes to any with f002882ca369 ("mm: merge folio_is_secretmem() and
> folio_fast_pin_allowed() into gup_fast_folio_allowed()") - we have got bug
> reports as a result of the lowered perf that commit causes.
>
> - Alistair
>
Ping @akpm to pick this up, if there is no objection @david
Balbir
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2026-06-11 1:13 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 17+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2026-04-09 1:46 [PATCH] mm/gup: fix GUP-fast fallback for NULL-mapping order-0 folios John Hubbard
2026-04-09 2:07 ` Andrew Morton
2026-04-09 2:09 ` John Hubbard
2026-04-09 7:52 ` David Hildenbrand (Arm)
2026-04-09 15:05 ` Zi Yan
2026-04-09 15:11 ` David Hildenbrand (Arm)
2026-04-09 16:55 ` Zi Yan
2026-04-09 17:31 ` David Hildenbrand (Arm)
2026-04-09 17:33 ` Zi Yan
2026-05-15 0:09 ` Balbir Singh
2026-05-18 9:42 ` David Hildenbrand (Arm)
2026-06-05 5:17 ` Alistair Popple
2026-06-05 9:22 ` David Hildenbrand (Arm)
2026-06-05 16:20 ` Zi Yan
2026-06-11 0:49 ` Alistair Popple
2026-06-11 1:12 ` Balbir Singh [this message]
2026-06-11 7:35 ` David Hildenbrand (Arm)
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