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From: Lorenzo Stoakes <ljs@kernel.org>
To: Jason Gunthorpe <jgg@ziepe.ca>
Cc: Matthew Wilcox <willy@infradead.org>,
	Peter Xu <peterx@redhat.com>,  Alex Williamson <alex@shazbot.org>,
	Anthony Pighin <anthony.pighin@nokia.com>,
	 linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	Kefeng Wang <wangkefeng.wang@huawei.com>,
	kvm@vger.kernel.org,  linux-mm@kvack.org,
	"Liam R. Howlett" <liam@infradead.org>,
	 Ryan Roberts <ryan.roberts@arm.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH] vfio: Request THP-aligned mmap for device fds
Date: Thu, 18 Jun 2026 16:56:06 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <ajQRY7tHShCEz8vg@lucifer> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20260618153049.GG231643@ziepe.ca>

On Thu, Jun 18, 2026 at 12:30:49PM -0300, Jason Gunthorpe wrote:
> On Thu, Jun 18, 2026 at 04:04:06PM +0100, Matthew Wilcox wrote:
> > On Thu, Jun 18, 2026 at 03:55:58PM +0100, Lorenzo Stoakes wrote:
> > > On Wed, Jun 17, 2026 at 04:29:28PM -0300, Jason Gunthorpe wrote:
> > > > On Wed, Jun 17, 2026 at 07:34:06PM +0100, Matthew Wilcox wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > I don't see this as being something that drivers should be involved with
> > > > > at all.  The MM should be able to get this right without any hints from
> > > > > the file-provider.  Yes, that means I also want to get rid of the setting
> > > > > of get_unmapped_area in ext4/xfs/other filesystems.
> > > > >
> > > > > Looking at generic_get_unmapped_area_topdown(), I think we can do this by
> > > > > making an additional call to vm_unmapped_area() before the existing two,
> > > > > setting info.align_mask and info.align_offset appropriately.
> > > > >
> > > > > Now, what's "appropriately"?  I think it's based on length (>= PMD_SIZE,
> > > > > then >= PUD_SIZE), but we should also take CONTPTE architectures into
> > > > > account.
> > > >
> > > > The info.align_mask and info.align_offset do need information from the
> > > > driver based on what it intends to map into the VMA that is being
> > > > created.
> >
> > What you're saying is that offset 0 of the opened file might correspond
> > to a PFN that is not aligned in any way?  I had assumed that when trying
> > to do the mapping of (2MB+4KiB to 64MB), that the offset specified to
> > mmap was 2MB+4KiB.  But you seem to be saying that the offset in that
> > case would be 0 and someone needs to know that it corresponds to a PFN
> > that is misaligned?
>
> I do expect that the pgoff space is usually aligned to the pfn space,
> most drivers do that or could be improved to do that. There will be
> some off cases, but maybe we don't care, and VFIO should be fine.

Some stuff has weird assumptions about pfn=0 at start of the range (DMA for
instance).

Presumably not applicable to VFIO but that's a thing we need to stop
doing... (I have some patches I deferred from a while back changing the DMA
stuff).

>
> That is certainly an easier place to start.
>
> Jason

Thanks, Lorenzo


  reply	other threads:[~2026-06-18 15:56 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 7+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
     [not found] <20260616180129.160016-1-anthony.pighin@nokia.com>
     [not found] ` <20260616163054.77fdb61a@shazbot.org>
     [not found]   ` <ajKtdCN0AlbmBnAj@x1.local>
2026-06-17 18:34     ` [PATCH] vfio: Request THP-aligned mmap for device fds Matthew Wilcox
2026-06-17 19:29       ` Jason Gunthorpe
2026-06-18 14:55         ` Lorenzo Stoakes
2026-06-18 15:04           ` Matthew Wilcox
2026-06-18 15:30             ` Jason Gunthorpe
2026-06-18 15:56               ` Lorenzo Stoakes [this message]
2026-06-18 15:28           ` Jason Gunthorpe

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