From: "Lorenzo Stoakes (ARM)" <ljs@kernel.org>
To: "David Hildenbrand (Arm)" <david@kernel.org>
Cc: Suren Baghdasaryan <surenb@google.com>,
akpm@linux-foundation.org, liam@infradead.org,
vbabka@kernel.org, willy@infradead.org, jannh@google.com,
paulmck@kernel.org, pfalcato@suse.de, linux-mm@kvack.org,
linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, linux-fsdevel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH v2 3/5] proc/task_mmu: remove special-casing of smap_gather_stats() start parameter
Date: Thu, 10 Sep 2026 17:27:11 +0100 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <aqLUqsoMDfVtjRuN@gremlin> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <8e643f51-a47f-428e-9443-678326288fa6@kernel.org>
On Wed, Sep 09, 2026 at 09:16:23PM +0200, David Hildenbrand (Arm) wrote:
> On 9/9/26 20:28, Suren Baghdasaryan wrote:
> > On Wed, Sep 9, 2026 at 10:16 AM David Hildenbrand (Arm)
> > <david@kernel.org> wrote:
> >>
> >> On 9/7/26 08:39, Suren Baghdasaryan wrote:
> >>> smap_gather_stats() interprets its start parameter to mean vma->vm_start
> >>> when it's set to 0. Eliminate this special interpretation and pass
> >>> vma->vm_start explicitly when needed.
> >>>
> >>> Since smap_gather_stats() operates within a single VMA, we can replace
> >>> walk_page_vma()/walk_page_range() calls with walk_page_range_vma()
> >>> which is simpler and also can be called while holding per-VMA lock.
> >>>
> >>> No functional change intended.
> >>>
> >>> Suggested by: Lorenzo Stoakes <ljs@kernel.org>
> >>> Signed-off-by: Suren Baghdasaryan <surenb@google.com>
> >>> ---
> >>> fs/proc/task_mmu.c | 40 ++++++++++++++++++++++------------------
> >>> 1 file changed, 22 insertions(+), 18 deletions(-)
> >>>
> >>> diff --git a/fs/proc/task_mmu.c b/fs/proc/task_mmu.c
> >>> index 9908ba32f180..3351decd1172 100644
> >>> --- a/fs/proc/task_mmu.c
> >>> +++ b/fs/proc/task_mmu.c
> >>> @@ -1246,20 +1246,27 @@ get_smaps_shmem_walk_ops(struct proc_maps_private *priv)
> >>> return &smaps_shmem_walk_vma_lock_ops;
> >>> }
> >>>
> >>> -/*
> >>> - * Gather mem stats from @vma with the indicated beginning
> >>> - * address @start, and keep them in @mss.
> >>> +/**
> >>> + * smap_gather_stats() - Gather mem stats from @vma.
> >>> + * @priv: proc maps private state.
> >>> + * @vma: The VMA to gather stats for.
> >>> + * @mss: The accumulated stats.
> >>> + * @start: The address from which to start.
> >>> *
> >>> - * Use vm_start of @vma as the beginning address if @start is 0.
> >>> + * This gathers stats for the whole of the VMA unless the lock was dropped
> >>> + * and VMA grew or got merged and we found it again, in which case we only
> >>> + * gather stats for the remainder of the VMA range.
> >>> */
> >>> static void smap_gather_stats(struct proc_maps_private *priv,
> >>> struct vm_area_struct *vma,
> >>> - struct mem_size_stats *mss, unsigned long start)
> >>> + struct mem_size_stats *mss,
> >>> + unsigned long start)
> >>> {
> >>> const struct mm_walk_ops *ops = get_smaps_walk_ops(priv);
> >>> + const bool is_partial = start > vma->vm_start;
> >>>
> >>> /* Invalid start */
> >>> - if (start >= vma->vm_end)
> >>> + if (start < vma->vm_start || start >= vma->vm_end)
> >>> return;
> >>>
> >>> if (vma == get_gate_vma(priv->lock_ctx.mm))
> >>> @@ -1279,20 +1286,17 @@ static void smap_gather_stats(struct proc_maps_private *priv,
> >>> * Unless we know that the shmem object (or the part mapped by
> >>> * our VMA) has no swapped out pages at all.
> >>> */
> >>> - unsigned long shmem_swapped = shmem_swap_usage(vma);
> >>> + const unsigned long shmem_swapped = shmem_swap_usage(vma);
> >>> + const bool shared_or_ro = vma_test(vma, VMA_SHARED_BIT) ||
> >>> + !vma_test(vma, VMA_WRITE_BIT);
> >>>
> >>> - if (!start && (!shmem_swapped || (vma->vm_flags & VM_SHARED) ||
> >>> - !(vma->vm_flags & VM_WRITE))) {
> >>> + if (!is_partial && (!shmem_swapped || shared_or_ro))
> >>> mss->swap += shmem_swapped;
> >>> - } else {
> >>> + else
> >>> ops = get_smaps_shmem_walk_ops(priv);
> >>> - }
> >>
> >> Horrible, horrible code, really. But not your fault :)
> >>
> >> I think we can just make the shared_or_ro less odd by just checking for cow
> >> mappings (as described in the comment).
> >>
> >> const bool is_cow = vma_is_cow_mapping(vma);
> >>
> >> ...
> >>
> >> if (is_partial || (shmem_swapped && is_cow))
> >> ops = get_smaps_shmem_walk_ops(priv);
> >> else
> >> mss->swap += shmem_swapped;
> >>
> >> That's almost in a form that I could understand what's happening.
> >
> > Hmm. So, are you saying that !is_cow always implies shared_or_ro? Or
> > maybe you are stating that vma_is_cow_mapping() was the actual intent
> > here?
>
> So the comment says:
>
> "For private writable mappings, we might have COW pages that .."
>
> Which translates to:
>
> private writable == vma_is_cow_mapping()
>
> >
> > shared_or_ro = VMA_SHARED_BIT || !VMA_WRITE_BIT
> >
> > is_cow = !VMA_SHARED_BIT && VMA_MAYWRITE_BIT
> > !is_cow = VMA_SHARED_BIT || !VMA_MAYWRITE_BIT
> >
> > so, !is_cow would impy shared_or_ro only if !VMA_MAYWRITE_BIT always
> > implies !VMA_WRITE_BIT. But I think it's possible to have a VMA that
> > has VMA_WRITE_BIT but not VMA_MAYWRITE_BIT, right?
>
> VMA_WRITE should imply VMA_MAYWRITE
Yup it's illegal to set VMA_WRITE_BIT without VMA_MAYWRITE_BIT.
>
> (in sanitize_fault_flags() we even disallow write faults entirely if VM_MAYWRITE
> is missing)
>
> For example, a
> > driver can create such a VMA to allow writing to the VMA but to lock
> > its content once mprotect(PROT_READ) gets called.
I'm not even sure how a driver would achieve that but drivers in general are not
permitted to alter VMA flags after map time.
>
> I don't think that would be valid for a driver to do. But it wouldn't matter
> here because
>
> shmem_mapping(vma->vm_file->f_mapping)
Yup :)
>
>
> I think we could simplify the comment as well to:
>
> diff --git a/fs/proc/task_mmu.c b/fs/proc/task_mmu.c
> index e671b4fd8dedd..4b7e7089cafa7 100644
> --- a/fs/proc/task_mmu.c
> +++ b/fs/proc/task_mmu.c
> @@ -1303,12 +1303,10 @@ static void smap_gather_stats(struct proc_maps_private
> *priv,
>
> if (vma->vm_file && shmem_mapping(vma->vm_file->f_mapping)) {
> /*
> - * For shared or readonly shmem mappings we know that all
> - * swapped out pages belong to the shmem object, and we can
> - * obtain the swap value much more efficiently. For private
> - * writable mappings, we might have COW pages that are
> - * not affected by the parent swapped out pages of the shmem
> - * object, so we have to distinguish them during the page walk.
> + * In CoW mappings, we might have anon folios that are
> + * independent of the shmem object. So fallback to the less
> + * efficient mechanism in such mappings.
> + *
Maybe tweak to 'CoW mappings might map anon folios that do not belong to shmem,
so perform a less efficient page table walk in this situation' or something like
that?
> * Unless we know that the shmem object (or the part mapped by
> * our VMA) has no swapped out pages at all.
> */
>
> --
> Cheers,
>
> David
--
Cheers, Lorenzo
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2026-09-10 16:27 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 43+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2026-09-07 6:39 [PATCH v2 0/5] read proc/pid/smaps_rollup under per-vma lock Suren Baghdasaryan
2026-09-07 6:39 ` [PATCH v2 1/5] proc/task_mmu: remove unnecessary helpers Suren Baghdasaryan
2026-09-07 16:44 ` Usama Arif
2026-09-08 17:58 ` Liam R. Howlett
2026-09-09 17:06 ` David Hildenbrand (Arm)
2026-09-09 17:13 ` Suren Baghdasaryan
2026-09-09 17:17 ` David Hildenbrand (Arm)
2026-09-09 18:29 ` Suren Baghdasaryan
2026-09-10 15:43 ` Lorenzo Stoakes (ARM)
2026-09-07 6:39 ` [PATCH v2 2/5] proc/task_mmu: remove unnecessary inlines in function definitions Suren Baghdasaryan
2026-09-07 16:49 ` Usama Arif
2026-09-10 15:35 ` Suren Baghdasaryan
2026-09-08 18:01 ` Liam R. Howlett
2026-09-09 17:07 ` David Hildenbrand (Arm)
2026-09-09 17:15 ` Suren Baghdasaryan
2026-09-10 15:55 ` Lorenzo Stoakes (ARM)
2026-09-07 6:39 ` [PATCH v2 3/5] proc/task_mmu: remove special-casing of smap_gather_stats() start parameter Suren Baghdasaryan
2026-09-08 18:07 ` Liam R. Howlett
2026-09-09 17:16 ` David Hildenbrand (Arm)
2026-09-09 18:28 ` Suren Baghdasaryan
2026-09-09 19:16 ` David Hildenbrand (Arm)
2026-09-09 21:51 ` Suren Baghdasaryan
2026-09-10 7:41 ` David Hildenbrand (Arm)
2026-09-10 15:45 ` Suren Baghdasaryan
2026-09-10 16:01 ` David Hildenbrand (Arm)
2026-09-10 16:09 ` Suren Baghdasaryan
2026-09-10 16:21 ` Suren Baghdasaryan
2026-09-10 16:33 ` David Hildenbrand (Arm)
2026-09-10 17:02 ` Suren Baghdasaryan
2026-09-10 16:27 ` Lorenzo Stoakes (ARM) [this message]
2026-09-10 23:30 ` Suren Baghdasaryan
2026-09-07 6:39 ` [PATCH v2 4/5] proc/task_mmu: read proc/pid/smaps_rollup under per-vma lock Suren Baghdasaryan
2026-09-08 18:17 ` Liam R. Howlett
2026-09-09 14:25 ` Usama Arif
2026-09-09 16:13 ` Suren Baghdasaryan
2026-09-09 17:23 ` David Hildenbrand (Arm)
2026-09-09 17:58 ` Suren Baghdasaryan
2026-09-10 7:44 ` David Hildenbrand (Arm)
2026-09-10 21:20 ` Suren Baghdasaryan
2026-09-07 6:39 ` [PATCH v2 5/5] selftests/proc: add /proc/pid/smaps_rollup tearing tests Suren Baghdasaryan
2026-09-08 18:18 ` Liam R. Howlett
2026-09-08 16:04 ` [PATCH v2 0/5] read proc/pid/smaps_rollup under per-vma lock Xueyuan Chen
2026-09-08 16:08 ` Suren Baghdasaryan
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