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From: "Lorenzo Stoakes (ARM)" <ljs@kernel.org>
To: Josef Bacik <josef@toxicpanda.com>
Cc: Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
	 "Liam R. Howlett" <liam@infradead.org>,
	David Hildenbrand <david@kernel.org>,
	 Vlastimil Babka <vbabka@kernel.org>,
	Jann Horn <jannh@google.com>, Pedro Falcato <pfalcato@suse.de>,
	 Muchun Song <muchun.song@linux.dev>,
	Oscar Salvador <osalvador@suse.de>,
	linux-mm@kvack.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH 6/6] mm/mremap: split first so a failed split is reported
Date: Mon, 2 Nov 2026 13:57:01 +0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <auiSshtJveaEdL8b@gremlin> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20261030-b4-mremap-pre-split-v1-6-c1829811aed0@toxicpanda.com>

On Fri, Oct 30, 2026 at 02:42:51PM +0000, Josef Bacik wrote:
> mremap() can return the new address although the old range is still mapped,
> which leaves the caller with a VMA it does not know about.

But this is established behaviour and a trade-off, e.g. 'the unmap failed, just
get accounts right' in unmap_source_vma().

So all you're left with is an unexpected MREMAP_DONTUNMAP, basically. And only
when the process is doomed where it doesn't matter.

>
> To move a part of a VMA, that part has to be split off, and this is left to
> the unmap at the end of the move. If the split fails there, the page tables
> have moved already and there is nothing to go back to. unmap_source_vma()
> returns void, so move_vma() reports success.

But it can't fail there as we already did all the checks ahead of time.

>
> This was reproduced with fault injection, by failing each allocation of

Yes, of course :)

> such an mremap() in turn. Anonymous and shmem mappings hit it at 2 to 7 of
> 7 to 13 allocations, with numbers that differ from boot to boot, and no
> longer hit it with this patch.

The only way it can happen in reality is huge memory pressure + a fatal signal +
bad luck on timing.

And at that point the process is going to die anyway, so it doesn't matter.

>
> Fix by splitting the source VMA in prep_move_vma() whenever it is going to
> be unmapped, so that a failed split is reported before anything has moved.

No, this is a big cost for no real-world benefit. Now any kind of failure
results in an unwanted pre-split.

This is more likely to screw people up than rather pointlessly trying to do a
favour for a doomed process.

> An old size of 0 unmaps nothing and does not split. If a later step fails,
> the VMA stays split, as it does after a munmap() that fails half way. The
> unmap at the end can still fail in its allocations, or if copy_vma() has
> merged the range and it has to be split again.
>
> Signed-off-by: Josef Bacik <josef@toxicpanda.com>

So yeah, overall, I don't think we want this patch.

It's not really accomplishing anything that matters in reality, adds a bunch of
complexity and causes pain for normal users.

So please drop this one thanks :)

--
Cheers, Lorenzo


  parent reply	other threads:[~2026-11-02 13:57 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 15+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2026-10-30 14:42 [PATCH 0/6] mm/mremap: report a failed split before moving anything Josef Bacik
2026-10-30 14:42 ` [PATCH 1/6] mm/mremap: fix hugetlb reservation leak on partial move Josef Bacik
2026-11-02 13:13   ` Lorenzo Stoakes (ARM)
2026-10-30 14:42 ` [PATCH 2/6] selftests/mm: test a partial mremap() of hugetlb memory Josef Bacik
2026-11-02 13:14   ` Lorenzo Stoakes (ARM)
2026-10-30 14:42 ` [PATCH 3/6] mm/mremap: reaccount on unmap failure only if accounted Josef Bacik
2026-11-02 13:17   ` Lorenzo Stoakes (ARM)
2026-10-30 14:42 ` [PATCH 4/6] mm/mremap: restore VM_ACCOUNT if the unmap fails Josef Bacik
2026-11-02 13:38   ` Lorenzo Stoakes (ARM)
2026-10-30 14:42 ` [PATCH 5/6] selftests/mm: test mremap() with an old size of 0 Josef Bacik
2026-11-02 13:39   ` Lorenzo Stoakes (ARM)
2026-10-30 14:42 ` [PATCH 6/6] mm/mremap: split first so a failed split is reported Josef Bacik
2026-10-31 19:27   ` Jose A. Perez de Azpillaga
2026-11-02 13:57   ` Lorenzo Stoakes (ARM) [this message]
2026-11-02 12:50 ` [PATCH 0/6] mm/mremap: report a failed split before moving anything Lorenzo Stoakes (ARM)

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