From: Harry Yoo <harry@kernel.org>
To: Qi Zheng <qi.zheng@linux.dev>,
akpm@linux-foundation.org, david@kernel.org, kasong@tencent.com,
shakeel.butt@linux.dev, baohua@kernel.org,
axelrasmussen@google.com, yuanchu@google.com, weixugc@google.com,
hannes@cmpxchg.org, muchun.song@linux.dev,
peiyang_he@smail.nju.edu.cn, mhocko@kernel.org,
roman.gushchin@linux.dev, ljs@kernel.org
Cc: linux-mm@kvack.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
Qi Zheng <zhengqi.arch@bytedance.com>,
stable@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH v2] mm: mglru: fix stale batch updates after memcg reparenting
Date: Thu, 25 Jun 2026 13:16:19 +0900 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <b5c85cea-5daa-4690-ac41-a6f5aebd1555@kernel.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <1d638906-6d64-4e57-a181-4b77683652b5@linux.dev>
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On 6/24/26 4:11 PM, Qi Zheng wrote:
> Hi Harry,
>
> On 6/24/26 12:29 PM, Harry Yoo wrote:
>> On 6/23/26 6:14 PM, Qi Zheng wrote:
>>> Hi Harry,
>>>
>>> On 6/23/26 4:18 PM, Harry Yoo wrote:
>>>> On 6/23/26 4:16 PM, Qi Zheng wrote:
>>>>> Hi Harry,
>>>>
>>>> Hi Qi!
>>>>
>>>>> On 6/23/26 2:17 PM, Harry Yoo wrote:
>>>>>> On 6/23/26 11:42 AM, Qi Zheng wrote:
>>>>>>> From: Qi Zheng <zhengqi.arch@bytedance.com>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> The mglru page table walker batches per-generation size deltas in
>>>>>>> walk->nr_pages while walking page tables without holding the lruvec
>>>>>>> lock.
>>>>>>> The reset_batch_size() later folds those deltas into walk->lruvec
>>>>>>> under
>>>>>>> the lruvec lock.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Ouch.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> IIRC the user-visible impact of underestimated nr_pages in MGLRU
>>>>>> was premature OOMs because MGLRU does not try to reclaim memory when
>>>>>> nr_pages reaches zero, but there are still more pages.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Perhaps worth mentioning in the changelog?
>>>>>
>>>>> Maybe this should be placed before "To fix it...".
>>>>
>>>> Thanks!
>>>>
>>>>>>> The page table walker can run concurrently with the memcg
>>>>>>> reparenting
>>>>>>> path
>>>>>>> as follows:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> CPU0 CPU1
>>>>>>> ==== ====
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> walk_mm
>>>>>>> --> walk_page_range
>>>>>>> --> update_batch_size
>>>>>>> --> walk->nr_pages += delta
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> mem_cgroup_css_offline
>>>>>>> --> memcg_reparent_objcgs
>>>>>>> --> lock lruvec
>>>>>>> lru_gen_reparent_memcg
>>>>>>> --> reparent child
>>>>>>> folios to
>>>>>>> parent
>>>>>>> unlock lruvec
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> lock lruvec
>>>>>>> reset_batch_size
>>>>>>> --> child lrugen->nr_pages += delta
>>>>>>
>>>>>> The problem here is that, while grabbing a reference to memcg
>>>>>> (via mem_cgroup_iter(), for example) makes sure that the memcg is not
>>>>>> freed, it does not prevent offlining happening, and
>>>>>> reset_batch_size()
>>>>>> doesn't check whether the lruvec has been reparented, or the lruvec
>>>>>> is going to be reparented.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> This will trigger the following warning in lru_gen_exit_memcg():
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> VM_WARN_ON_ONCE(memchr_inv(lruvec->lrugen.nr_pages, 0,
>>>>>>> sizeof(lruvec->lrugen.nr_pages)));
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> To fix it, add lrugen->reparented to remember the new owner of a
>>>>>>> reparented lruvec, and make reset_batch_size() charge pending
>>>>>>> deltas to
>>>>>>> that owner.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Could you please explain why it is unavoidable to introduce the new
>>>>>> field and why checking whether the cgroup is dying (and charging
>>>>>> deltas
>>>>>> to non-dying parent) doesn't work?
>>>>>
>>>>> Peiyang tried doing this [1], but it doesn't work because
>>>>> ss->css_offline() is called before clearing the CSS_ONLINE flag.
>>>>
>>>> Right.
>>>>
>>>>> I also considered using mem_cgroup_tryget_online(), but that only
>>>>> prevent
>>>>> the memcg from being freed. It's doesn't prevent the offlining.
>>>>
>>>> Right.
>>>>
>>>> I think checking CSS_DYING under RCU and grabbing the lruvec
>>>> of the first non-dying memcg should work (this pattern is already
>>>> used where we use RCU to guarantee memcgs are not freed).
>>>>
>>>> If we do not observe CSS_DYING flag, it is safe to charge deltas
>>>> to the lruvec because RCU guarantees that reparenting cannot happen
>>>> under us.
>>>>
>>>> If we do observe CSS_DYING, we can walk up the hierarchy and charge
>>>> deltas to the first non-dying memcg.
>>>
>>> Checking CSS_DYING looks feasible, but the rcu lock alone cannot prevent
>>> reparenting. We should recheck CSS_DYING after acquiring the lruvec
>>> lock, otherwise we might run into the following race:
>>
>> Haha, actually, I was thinking of checking CSS_DYING under both RCU and
>> lruvec lock. (because that's the pattern)
>>
>>> CPU0 reset_batch_size CPU1 memcg teardown
>>> ===================== ==================
>>>
>>> read !CSS_DYING
>>>
>>> set CSS_DYING
>>
>> Oh, I thought the entire critical section is covered by RCU.
>> (I see lock_batch_lruvec() you suggested below doesn't do that)
>>
>> Isn't RCU enough to prevent reparenting because RCU guarantees that
>> all readers who read !CSS_DYING complete before reparenting?
>
> Oh, I think you are right.
>
> I forgot that offlining is executed in the rcu work context.
It's confusing :)
> Let's walk through this again:
>
> cgroup_destroy_locked
> --> kill_css_sync
> --> css->flags |= CSS_DYING; 1)
> kill_css_finish
> --> css_killed_ref_fn
> --> css_killed_work_fn <-- RCU work !! 2)
> --> offline_css
> --> reparent memcg
>
> So while holding the rcu lock, if CSS_DYING is not observed,
> css_killed_work_fn() will not be called until rcu_read_unlock().
Right.
> So lock_batch_lruvec() can be implemented like this:
>
> #ifdef CONFIG_MEMCG
> static struct lruvec *lock_batch_lruvec(struct lruvec *lruvec)
> {
> struct pglist_data *pgdat = lruvec_pgdat(lruvec);
> struct mem_cgroup *memcg = lruvec_memcg(lruvec);
>
> rcu_read_lock();
>
> /*
> * The memcg can be NULL when the memory controller is disabled.
> * Otherwise, the caller keeps the memcg owning @lruvec alive.
> */
> if (!memcg || !css_is_dying(&memcg->css))
> goto lock;
>
> do {
> memcg = parent_mem_cgroup(memcg);
> } while (memcg && css_is_dying(&memcg->css));
> lruvec = mem_cgroup_lruvec(memcg, pgdat);
>
> lock:
> spin_lock_irq(&lruvec->lru_lock);
>
> return lruvec;
> }
> #else
> static struct lruvec *lock_batch_lruvec(struct lruvec *lruvec)
> {
> lruvec_lock_irq(lruvec);
>
> return lruvec;
> }
> #endif
>
> Does this make sense?
Yes, looks good to me!
--
Cheers,
Harry / Hyeonggon
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next prev parent reply other threads:[~2026-06-25 4:16 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 15+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2026-06-23 2:42 [PATCH v2] mm: mglru: fix stale batch updates after memcg reparenting Qi Zheng
2026-06-23 2:56 ` Qi Zheng
2026-06-23 4:03 ` Baolin Wang
2026-06-23 6:17 ` Harry Yoo
2026-06-23 7:16 ` Qi Zheng
2026-06-23 8:18 ` Harry Yoo
2026-06-23 9:14 ` Qi Zheng
2026-06-24 4:29 ` Harry Yoo
2026-06-24 7:11 ` Qi Zheng
2026-06-25 4:16 ` Harry Yoo [this message]
2026-06-25 6:11 ` Qi Zheng
2026-06-25 6:32 ` Harry Yoo
2026-06-25 7:37 ` Qi Zheng
2026-06-25 8:09 ` Peiyang He
2026-06-25 10:07 ` Barry Song
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