From: "David Hildenbrand (Arm)" <david@kernel.org>
To: "Michael S. Tsirkin" <mst@redhat.com>
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Subject: Re: [PATCH 0/2] mm: memory-failure: fix HWPoison flag race with non-atomic page flag ops
Date: Tue, 30 Jun 2026 08:41:08 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <f6d8354c-2f79-4a48-934c-cbeb335765e2@kernel.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <cbab829a-3e65-4b4f-a2e2-704e88a611a0@kernel.org>
On 6/30/26 08:30, David Hildenbrand (Arm) wrote:
> On 6/29/26 23:50, Michael S. Tsirkin wrote:
>> On Mon, Jun 29, 2026 at 11:22:11PM +0200, David Hildenbrand (Arm) wrote:
>>> [...]
>>>
>>>
>>> Fully agreed. I was hoping RCU was cheaper (I mean, we were once told that RCU
>>> read side locking is essentially for free ... well in some configs :) )
>>>
>>> The question if we could optimize it reasonably enough ...
>>>
>>>
>>> ... for example, by doing the rcu read lock + unlock around the
>>>
>>> for (i = 1; i < (1 << order); i++) {
>>>
>>> loop on the alloc path.
>>
>> Is this different from what this patch is doing?
>
> Ah, I missed that we batch this already. We could make it include the
>
> page_cpupid_reset_last(page);
> page->flags.f &= ~PAGE_FLAGS_CHECK_AT_PREP;
>
> As well, to reduce from 3 to 1 locks.
>
> So I guess there is potential for optimization.
>
> [...]
>
>>
>>> I concluded, similar to Andi, that stop_machine() is too big of a hammer.
>>>
>>> I wonder if something could be built out of preempt_disable() and sync SMP
>>> calls. hmm :(
>>
>> rcu_lock is basically same as preempt_disable if rcu is non preemptible,
>> no?
>
> Yes. See my other mail, I learned that preempt_disable() should likely just do
> for our use case. So the preemptible RCU case would not matter.
>
> I assume that's as good as it gets.
>
> 1) Use preempt_disable/preempt_enable to protect
> 2) Batch as good as possible in the page allocator
>
> If the overhead is then still noticeable, there is not a lot we can do to handle
> this cleanly I'm afraid.
FWIW, there seems to be preempt_enable_no_resched() that is a bit more
lightweight. I'm sure there is some downside, but it might be worth a try.
--
Cheers,
David
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2026-06-30 6:41 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 30+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2026-06-28 21:45 [PATCH 0/2] mm: memory-failure: fix HWPoison flag race with non-atomic page flag ops Michael S. Tsirkin
2026-06-28 21:45 ` [PATCH 1/2] mm: memory-failure: use RCU to fix HWPoison flag race Michael S. Tsirkin
2026-06-28 21:45 ` [PATCH 2/2] mm: wrap non-atomic page flag ops in RCU for HWPoison safety Michael S. Tsirkin
2026-06-29 2:11 ` [PATCH 0/2] mm: memory-failure: fix HWPoison flag race with non-atomic page flag ops Andi Kleen
2026-06-29 8:10 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2026-06-29 8:21 ` David Hildenbrand (Arm)
2026-06-29 8:39 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2026-06-29 16:54 ` Andi Kleen
2026-06-29 17:04 ` David Hildenbrand (Arm)
2026-06-29 20:43 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2026-06-29 6:49 ` David Hildenbrand (Arm)
2026-06-29 7:34 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2026-06-29 13:05 ` David Hildenbrand (Arm)
2026-06-29 20:08 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2026-06-29 20:55 ` Andi Kleen
2026-06-29 21:17 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2026-06-29 21:39 ` Andi Kleen
2026-06-29 21:59 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2026-06-29 21:22 ` David Hildenbrand (Arm)
2026-06-29 21:43 ` David Hildenbrand (Arm)
2026-06-29 23:34 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2026-06-30 6:17 ` David Hildenbrand (Arm)
2026-06-30 6:27 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2026-06-30 6:34 ` David Hildenbrand (Arm)
2026-06-30 7:25 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2026-06-29 21:50 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2026-06-30 6:30 ` David Hildenbrand (Arm)
2026-06-30 6:41 ` David Hildenbrand (Arm) [this message]
2026-06-29 21:54 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2026-06-29 23:29 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
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