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From: Adrian Hunter <adrian.hunter@intel.com>
To: Alex Lemberg <Alex.Lemberg@sandisk.com>,
	Uri Yanai <Uri.Yanai@sandisk.com>,
	"ulf.hansson@linaro.org" <ulf.hansson@linaro.org>
Cc: "linux-mmc@vger.kernel.org" <linux-mmc@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 3/3] mmc: Checking BKOPS status prior to Suspend
Date: Wed, 25 Jan 2017 14:45:07 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <3dac8e2c-8a24-788b-bc29-8917c465b3e7@intel.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <2A84C54D-D96B-4728-BE25-BF082BF0C464@sandisk.com>

On 25/01/17 14:40, Alex Lemberg wrote:
> 
> 
> On 1/25/17, 12:30 PM, "Adrian Hunter" <adrian.hunter@intel.com> wrote:
> 
>     On 25/01/17 11:48, Alex Lemberg wrote:
>     > 
>     > 
>     > On 1/24/17, 4:36 PM, "Adrian Hunter" <adrian.hunter@intel.com> wrote:
>     > 
>     >     On 23/01/17 19:07, Alex Lemberg wrote:
>     >     > Hi Adrian,
>     >     > 
>     >     > I would like to add several notes on top of Uri’s answer...
>     >     > I agree with you, by the spec, PON Sleep_Notification should be
>     >     > set before calling Sleep command.
>     >     > As you probably remember, we have tried to implement it
>     >     > in the past and even submitted a patch – “[PATCH] mmc: sleep notification”
>     >     > https://www.mail-archive.com/linux-mmc@vger.kernel.org/msg30906.html
>     >     > As you can see from the thread, one of the main issues in Sleep_Notification
>     >     > is a SLEEP_NOTIFICATION_TIME (defined in EXT_CSD [216]), which need to be
>     >     > considered in implementation…
>     >     
>     >     Does it?  I would tend to assume SLEEP_NOTIFICATION_TIME will be acceptable
>     >     during _suspend until proven otherwise.
>     > 
>     > Potentially, by the spec, the Max value of SLEEP_NOTIFICATION_TIME can be 83.88 seconds.
>     > Can we assume that this time is acceptable during _suspend?
>     
>     Do you know of any cards that take that long?
> 
> Yes - for some cards it can take several seconds in some corner cases.

Wouldn't that mean POWER_OFF_SHORT has the same problem since that is
preparing for *both* Vcc and Vccq to go off?

> 
>     As I wrote, I would assume it is acceptable until we know otherwise.
> 
> I think Sleep_Notification requires more detailed review. 
> Since PON Sleep_Notification is a blocking command (BUSY asserted),
> in case of getting new request, driver need to send HPI command in order
> to interrupt the Sleep_Notification process.
> We tried to handle this case in our Sleep_Notification patchset…
> Anyway, I think we need to discuss it separately, not related to
> the AUTO_BKOPS support…
> 
>     >     
>     >     > Thus, I think postponing Sleep during suspend requires a different from current
>     >     > AUTO_BKOPS implementation, and I suggest to handle it in separate
>     >     > patchset, if possible.
>     >     
>     >     Not at all sure what you mean by "postponing Sleep"?
>     > 
>     > I mean letting Sleep_Notification to be completed before Sleep.
>     
>     ook.
>     
>     
> 


  reply	other threads:[~2017-01-25 12:50 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 20+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2017-01-17 12:15 [PATCH 0/3] Auto BKOPS PM suspend Uri Yanai
2017-01-17 12:15 ` [PATCH 1/3] mmc: replacing hardcoded value for runtime " Uri Yanai
2017-01-17 12:15 ` [PATCH 2/3] mmc: Adding AUTO_BKOPS_EN bit set for Auto BKOPS support Uri Yanai
2017-01-17 12:15 ` [PATCH 3/3] mmc: Checking BKOPS status prior to Suspend Uri Yanai
2017-01-18  1:59   ` Shawn Lin
2017-01-18 15:01     ` Uri Yanai
2017-01-20 11:56   ` Adrian Hunter
2017-01-22 15:55     ` Uri Yanai
2017-01-23 17:07       ` Alex Lemberg
2017-01-24 14:36         ` Adrian Hunter
2017-01-25  9:48           ` Alex Lemberg
2017-01-25 10:30             ` Adrian Hunter
2017-01-25 12:40               ` Alex Lemberg
2017-01-25 12:45                 ` Adrian Hunter [this message]
2017-01-25 13:42                   ` Alex Lemberg
2017-01-18  1:53 ` [PATCH 0/3] Auto BKOPS PM suspend Shawn Lin
2017-01-18 14:12   ` Uri Yanai
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2016-09-01 14:24 [PATCH 0/3] mmc: Check BKOPS Level On Runtime Suspend alex lemberg
2016-09-01 14:24 ` [PATCH 3/3] mmc: Checking BKOPS status prior to Suspend alex lemberg
2016-10-13  7:36   ` Ulf Hansson
2016-10-31  9:53     ` Alex Lemberg

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