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From: Josh Poimboeuf <jpoimboe@kernel.org>
To: Yafang Shao <laoar.shao@gmail.com>
Cc: Petr Mladek <pmladek@suse.com>,
	jikos@kernel.org, mbenes@suse.cz, joe.lawrence@redhat.com,
	mcgrof@kernel.org, live-patching@vger.kernel.org,
	linux-modules@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH v2 2/2] livepatch: Delete the associated module of disabled livepatch
Date: Wed, 8 May 2024 00:03:08 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20240508070308.mk7vnny5d27fo5l6@treble> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CALOAHbDn=t7=Q9upg1MGwNcbo5Su9W5JTAc901jq2BAyNGSDrg@mail.gmail.com>

On Wed, May 08, 2024 at 02:01:29PM +0800, Yafang Shao wrote:
> On Wed, May 8, 2024 at 1:16 PM Josh Poimboeuf <jpoimboe@kernel.org> wrote:
> > If klp_patch.replace is set on the new patch then it will replace all
> > previous patches.
> 
> A scenario exists wherein a user could simultaneously disable a loaded
> livepatch, potentially resulting in it not being replaced by the new
> patch. While theoretical, this possibility is not entirely
> implausible.

Why does it matter whether it was replaced, or was disabled beforehand?
Either way the end result is the same.

> > > As Petr pointed out, we can enhance the functionality by checking the
> > > return value and providing informative error messages. This aligns
> > > with the user experience when deleting a module; if deletion fails,
> > > users have the option to try again. Similarly, if error messages are
> > > displayed, users can manually remove the module if needed.
> >
> > Calling delete_module() from the kernel means there's no syscall with
> > which to return an error back to the user.
> 
> pr_error() can calso tell the user the error, right ?

The dmesg buffer isn't a reliable way to communicate errors to a user
space process.

> If we must return an error to the user, probably we can use
> klp_free_replaced_patches_sync() instead of
> klp_free_replaced_patches_async().

It's async for a reason :-)

> Under what conditions might a kernel module of a disabled livepatch be
> unable to be removed?

For example:

  - Some code grabbed a reference to it, or some module has a dependency
    on it

  - It has an init function but not an exit function

  - The module has already been removed due to some race

  - Some other unforeseen bug or race in the module exit path

-- 
Josh

  reply	other threads:[~2024-05-08  7:03 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 23+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2024-04-07  3:57 [PATCH v2 0/2] livepatch, module: Delete the associated module of disabled livepatch Yafang Shao
2024-04-07  3:57 ` [PATCH v2 1/2] module: Add a new helper delete_module() Yafang Shao
2024-04-24 12:09   ` Yafang Shao
2024-05-04 16:53     ` Greg KH
2024-05-04 22:26       ` Josh Poimboeuf
2024-05-04 21:36     ` Luis Chamberlain
2024-05-06 11:58   ` Petr Mladek
2024-04-07  3:57 ` [PATCH v2 2/2] livepatch: Delete the associated module of disabled livepatch Yafang Shao
2024-05-03 21:14   ` Josh Poimboeuf
2024-05-06 11:32     ` Petr Mladek
2024-05-07  2:35       ` Josh Poimboeuf
2024-05-07 14:03         ` Yafang Shao
2024-05-08  5:16           ` Josh Poimboeuf
2024-05-08  6:01             ` Yafang Shao
2024-05-08  7:03               ` Josh Poimboeuf [this message]
2024-05-09  2:17                 ` Yafang Shao
2024-05-09  5:20                   ` Josh Poimboeuf
2024-05-09  5:53                     ` Yafang Shao
2024-05-09 10:16                       ` Petr Mladek
2024-05-09 11:57                         ` Yafang Shao
2024-05-09 10:51         ` Petr Mladek
2024-05-06 12:20   ` Petr Mladek
2024-05-02 13:30 ` [PATCH v2 0/2] livepatch, module: " Joe Lawrence

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