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From: Sebastian Andrzej Siewior <bigeasy@linutronix.de>
To: "Paul E. McKenney" <paulmck@kernel.org>
Cc: Petr Pavlu <petr.pavlu@suse.com>,
	Luis Chamberlain <mcgrof@kernel.org>,
	Daniel Gomez <da.gomez@kernel.org>,
	Sami Tolvanen <samitolvanen@google.com>,
	Aaron Tomlin <atomlin@atomlin.com>,
	linux-modules@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH net v2] ppp: defer channel free to an RCU grace period to fix pppol2tp RX UAF
Date: Tue, 14 Jul 2026 18:01:04 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20260714160104.jK83e41c@linutronix.de> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <70060a4e-4630-487f-8ecc-4408e23268d4@paulmck-laptop>

On 2026-07-08 12:22:58 [-0700], Paul E. McKenney wrote:
> The RCU-callback ordering guarantees are quite weak:
…
So this is not working.

> What you maybe *could* do is to have the two RCU callbacks communicate,
> so that the last one to be invoked did the work of both of them.  For
> example, use a shared variable initialized to 2, then have each callback
> do atomic_dec_and_test(), with the "winner" doing the work.
> 
> Would that do the trick?

This would work but we would have to fix each one or make it slower for
everyone in the common case. So I think adding a rcu_barrier() to module
unload wouldn't be that bad and Petr did not say "get out" so ;)

I've been looking a bit more:
- fs/netfs/objects.c
  call_rcu(&rreq->rcu, netfs_free_request_rcu). No rcu_barrier or
  flush_worker. 

- net/sched/sch_taprio.c
  call_rcu(&oper->rcu, taprio_free_sched_cb) from with the destroy
  callback. There is a rcu_barrier() but for classification not qdisc.

- drivers/net/tun.c.
  tun_free_netdev() from the net_device::priv_destructor.

The net things _might_ be okay since there is netdev_run_todo() with a
rcu_barrier() which is run at rtnl_unlock(). So it might work.

- drivers/vfio/pci/vfio_pci_core.c
  call_rcu() but I don't see anything rcu_barrier() like.

- security/keys/trusted-keys/trusted_core.c 
  security/keys/encrypted-keys/encrypted.c
  call_rcu() from an update callback. No rcu_barrier in security/.
  This looks "easy".

- drivers/gpu/drm/lima/lima_sched.c
  lima_fence_release() does call_rcu() from an release callback. Don't
  see anything that would enforce a rcu barrier here. The remove path
  has also a lima_sched_slab_fini() which removes the slab cache used in
  the rcu callback.

And we had the infinibad thing which got fixed in the meantime.
So I *think* this qualifies for an rcu_barrier() in the module unload
path. No objections I guess?

> 							Thanx, Paul

Sebastian

  reply	other threads:[~2026-07-14 16:01 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 12+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
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     [not found] ` <de2616b3-6edf-4255-ba77-0674e225ab27@linux.dev>
     [not found]   ` <akfjpBVML_1RFF91@gmail.com>
     [not found]     ` <87111f02-5b7a-4185-8364-2faba650578b@linux.dev>
2026-07-06  9:29       ` [PATCH net v2] ppp: defer channel free to an RCU grace period to fix pppol2tp RX UAF Sebastian Andrzej Siewior
2026-07-07 15:32         ` Petr Pavlu
2026-07-07 16:39           ` Paul E. McKenney
2026-07-08  9:11             ` Sebastian Andrzej Siewior
2026-07-08 14:01               ` Paul E. McKenney
2026-07-08  7:49           ` Sebastian Andrzej Siewior
2026-07-08 13:04             ` Petr Pavlu
2026-07-08 13:56               ` Sebastian Andrzej Siewior
2026-07-08 19:00                 ` Sebastian Andrzej Siewior
2026-07-08 19:22                   ` Paul E. McKenney
2026-07-14 16:01                     ` Sebastian Andrzej Siewior [this message]
2026-07-14 17:47                       ` Paul E. McKenney

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