USB device installation

USB device installation

[Walter Logeman]

Hi,

I have 2 usb ports.  The Intelleye mouse is working well off one 
port.  I am trying to get a Smartmedia card reader to work off the 
other port.

I have made some steps in what I think is the right direction 
/etc/modules has:

scsi_hostadapter
usb-storage

I have a program called usbview which shows me that the reader can 
be hotplugged, which means usbutils and hotplug are working (I 
think)

I have made a /mnt/smedia directory 

I know I will need to add something to my fstab such as:

 /dev/sda1 /mnt/smedia vfat noauto,user

but have not done that yet... perhaps i should do that now?

I have held off because

 mount -t vfat /dev/sda1 /mnt/smedia

tells me there is no sda1 ( ls -al in dev/ reveals that there is no 
device sd* at all  - see clip below.)

How does the dev directory get the device names?  Should they just 
appear?  Does usb-storage do that?

Any comments or clues would be appreciated.  I am new to Linux so 
may well be missing something very basic.

Some details below



Walter

~~~
= My Machine =
Dell i8100 laptop
ATI Radeon 7500 Mobility
Mandrake 8.1
Linux 2.4.9-13smp i686 [ELF]
Upgraded to Xfree86 4.2.0

~~~

1000 root@psybernet:/home/walter (08:58:12)
# lsmod
Module                  Size  Used by
sg                     28624   0  (autoclean)
sr_mod                 14912   0  (autoclean)
lt_serial              20336   0  (unused)
lt_modem              314720   0  [lt_serial]
maestro3               25280   2
soundcore               4208   2  [maestro3]
ac97_codec              9312   0  [maestro3]
lp                      5808   0
parport_pc             20240   1
parport                24768   1  [lp parport_pc]
irtty                   6000   2  (autoclean)
irda                   93568   1  (autoclean) [irtty]
ds                      6992   2
i82365                 23728   2
pcmcia_core            43936   0  [ds i82365]
ip_vs                  62000   0  (autoclean)
keybdev                 1920   0  (unused)
mousedev                4192   1
hid                    18480   0  (unused)
usbmouse                2048   0  (unused)
input                   3648   0  [keybdev mousedev hid usbmouse]
iptable_nat            16560   0  (autoclean) (unused)
ip_conntrack           15600   1  (autoclean) [iptable_nat]
iptable_mangle          2048   0  (autoclean) (unused)
iptable_filter          2048   0  (autoclean) (unused)
ip_tables              11488   5  [iptable_nat iptable_mangle 
iptable_filter]
usb-uhci               21232   0  (unused)
eepro100               17120   0  (autoclean) (unused)
nls_iso8859-1           2880   1  (autoclean)
ntfs                   49776   1  (autoclean)
usb-storage            52528   0  (unused)
usbcore                50752   1  [hid usbmouse usb-uhci 
usb-storage]
ide-scsi                8096   0
scsi_mod               91072   3  [sg sr_mod usb-storage ide-scsi]
rtc                     5600   0  (autoclean)
ext3                   63084   2
jbd                    39168   2  [ext3]

~~~

1005 root@psybernet:/dev (08:59:47)
# ls -al | grep sd
crw-------    1 root     root       8,   0 Jan  1  1970 .devfsd
lr-xr-xr-x    1 root     root            7 Apr 18 08:49 ptysd -> 
pty/m61
crw-rw-rw-    1 root     tty        3,  61 Jan 25 14:56 ttysd


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Re: USB device installation

[Tom Beer]

> /dev/sda1 /mnt/smedia vfat noauto,user
>
> but have not done that yet... perhaps i should do that now?
>
> I have held off because
>
> mount -t vfat /dev/sda1 /mnt/smedia
>
> tells me there is no sda1 ( ls -al in dev/ reveals that there is no
> device sd* at all - see clip below.)
>
> How does the dev directory get the device names? Should they just
> appear? Does usb-storage do that?
>

You may have to create the devices. try mknod 660 -m /dev/sda1 c
char-major-NUMBER 1

char-major-NUMBER has to be replaced with the _right_ value
or you may make ./MAKEDEV sda1 in /dev (this may be only possible in other
u*ix distributions.)

try www.linux-usb.org/

Greets TOm


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Re: USB device installation [2]

[Tom Beer]

>
> You may have to create the devices. try mknod 660 -m /dev/sda1 c
> char-major-NUMBER 1

SORRY, but it should be mknod 660 -n /dev...
                                                            ^

>
> char-major-NUMBER has to be replaced with the _right_ value
> or you may make ./MAKEDEV sda1 in /dev (this may be only possible in other
> u*ix distributions.)
>
> try www.linux-usb.org/
>


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Re: USB device installation

[Walter Logeman]

In Re: USB device installation, on Thu, 18 Apr 2002 18:28, 
 Tom Beer wrote:

Thanks tom,

> > How does the dev directory get the device names? Should they
> > just appear? Does usb-storage do that?
>
> You may have to create the devices. try mknod 660 -m /dev/sda1 c
> char-major-NUMBER 1
>
> char-major-NUMBER has to be replaced with the _right_ value

I have searched around and found this page:  
http://www.tldp.org/HOWTO/SCSI-2.4-HOWTO/dnamesdevfs.html

But i am still not sure what to enter  for char-major-NUMBER 1

Also you corrected the command to  mknod 660 -n /dev/sda1  but it 
seems n does not work here m= mode?  n 

# mknod 660 -n /dev/sda1 c [b,8,0]
mknod: invalid option -- n

So I am still puzzling here...

~~~

> or you may make ./MAKEDEV sda1 in /dev (this may be only possible
> in other u*ix distributions.)

no it does not seem to be there...


> try www.linux-usb.org/

I'm still hanging out there... maybe I'll spot it.


Walter

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Re: USB device installation

[Tom Beer]

> I have searched around and found this page:  
> http://www.tldp.org/HOWTO/SCSI-2.4-HOWTO/dnamesdevfs.html
> 
> But i am still not sure what to enter  for char-major-NUMBER 1
> 
> Also you corrected the command to  mknod 660 -n /dev/sda1  but it 
> seems n does not work here m= mode?  n 
> 
> # mknod 660 -n /dev/sda1 c [b,8,0]
> mknod: invalid option -- n
> 

Probably is the -m flag right. try man 8 mknod. After reading
this I would recommend using

mknod 660 -m /dev/sda1 -b 8 0

But be cautions. I won't - as ever - not guarantee that
this will work. Check it out and if it won't work delete 
the device node. .

rm -i /dev/sda1.

Greets Tom

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Re: USB device installation

[Walter Logeman]

Tom 


> Probably is the -m flag right. try man 8 mknod. After reading
> this I would recommend using
>
> mknod 660 -m /dev/sda1 -b 8 0

Great to get your help here... I cld not find man 8 for mkmod on my 
PC or the net only man 2.

I kept getting invalid mode with your line... tried some other 
options with no luck.

However mknod created the device in dev when I did not specify a 
mode... that is probably what is wrong now?  (just tried chmod to 
implement the 660 - I think that worked, but the final result is 
the same.)

At least the sda1 is *there* but ... 

see results below...

Where to from here i wonder?


Walter

~~~


# mknod 660 -m /dev/sda1 b 8 0
mknod: invalid mode
1047 root@psybernet:/dev (11:54:45)
# mknod    /dev/sda1 b 8 0
1048 root@psybernet:/dev (11:55:00)
# ls -al | grep sda1
brw-r--r--    1 root     root       8,   0 Apr 18 23:49 sda1
1049 root@psybernet:/dev (11:55:30)
# mount -t vfat /dev/sda1 /mnt/smedia
mount: /dev/sda1: unknown device
1050 root@psybernet:/dev (11:55:51)
#

~~~

1052 root@psybernet:/dev (00:06:21)
# chmod 660 sda1
1053 root@psybernet:/dev (00:06:54)
# mount -t vfat /dev/sda1 /mnt/smedia
mount: /dev/sda1: unknown device
1055 root@psybernet:/dev (00:09:08)
# ls -al | grep sda1
brw-rw----    1 root     root       8,   0 Apr 18 23:49 sda1

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Re: USB device installation

[Tom Beer]

Walter,

please tell us your system (uname -a).
Have you compiled some module for the smart
card reader? If yes, please let me the gcc version
(if you used gcc) know. 
What is your /etc/fstab entry?
Something similiar to

/dev/sda1 swap swap defaults 0 0  

??

What is the exact name of your smartcard drive?

Greets Tom



> Tom 
> 
> 
> > Probably is the -m flag right. try man 8 mknod. After reading
> > this I would recommend using
> >
> > mknod 660 -m /dev/sda1 -b 8 0
> 
> Great to get your help here... I cld not find man 8 for mkmod on my 
> PC or the net only man 2.
> 
> I kept getting invalid mode with your line... tried some other 
> options with no luck.
> 
> However mknod created the device in dev when I did not specify a 
> mode... that is probably what is wrong now?  (just tried chmod to 
> implement the 660 - I think that worked, but the final result is 
> the same.)
> 
> At least the sda1 is *there* but ... 
> 
> see results below...
> 
> Where to from here i wonder?
> 
> 
> Walter
> 
> ~~~
> 
> 
> # mknod 660 -m /dev/sda1 b 8 0
> mknod: invalid mode
> 1047 root@psybernet:/dev (11:54:45)
> # mknod    /dev/sda1 b 8 0
> 1048 root@psybernet:/dev (11:55:00)
> # ls -al | grep sda1
> brw-r--r--    1 root     root       8,   0 Apr 18 23:49 sda1
> 1049 root@psybernet:/dev (11:55:30)
> # mount -t vfat /dev/sda1 /mnt/smedia
> mount: /dev/sda1: unknown device
> 1050 root@psybernet:/dev (11:55:51)
> #
> 
> ~~~
> 
> 1052 root@psybernet:/dev (00:06:21)
> # chmod 660 sda1
> 1053 root@psybernet:/dev (00:06:54)
> # mount -t vfat /dev/sda1 /mnt/smedia
> mount: /dev/sda1: unknown device
> 1055 root@psybernet:/dev (00:09:08)
> # ls -al | grep sda1
> brw-rw----    1 root     root       8,   0 Apr 18 23:49 sda1
> 
> -- 
> Walter Logeman
> Psychotherapist
> http://www.psybernet.co.nz
> 

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Re: USB device installation

[Walter Logeman]

In Re: USB device installation, on Fri, 19 Apr 2002 01:17, 
 Tom Beer wrote:



> please tell us your system (uname -a).

1001 walter@psybernet:~ (08:56:03)
$ uname -a
Linux psybernet.co.nz 2.4.8-26mdk #1 Sun Sep 23 17:06:39 CEST 2001 
i686 unknown


> Have you compiled some module for the smart
> card reader? If yes, please let me the gcc version
> (if you used gcc) know.

No I have not compiled anything but have modules loaded that I 
thought were needed - ie usb-storage, scsi_mod, usbcore, I will 
append the output of lsmod.


> What is your /etc/fstab entry?
> Something similar to
>
> /dev/sda1 swap swap defaults 0 0

1007 root@psybernet:/etc (11:39:48)
# cat fstab
<snip>
/dev/sda1 /mnt/smedia vfat noauto,user

I have just added the last line but I doubt it will work as 

1008 root@psybernet:/etc (11:39:53)
# mount /dev/sda1 /mnt/smedia
mount: /dev/sda1: unknown device

is still the situation.

> What is the exact name of your smartcard drive?
A-TEC SSFDC 
Manufacturer: A-TEC Subsystem Inc

Output from usbview also appended.

Thanks for your interest in this Tom.

Walter



~~~

1007 root@psybernet:/etc (11:39:48)
# cat fstab

/dev/hda5 / ext3 noatime 1 1
none /dev/pts devpts mode=0620 0 0
none /dev/shm tmpfs defaults 0 0
/dev/hda7 /home ext3 noatime 1 2
/dev/scd0 /mnt/cdrom auto 
user,iocharset=iso8859-1,umask=0,exec,codepage=850,ro,noauto 0 0
/dev/fd0 /mnt/floppy auto 
user,iocharset=iso8859-1,umask=0,sync,exec,codepage=850,noauto 0 0
/dev/hda2 /mnt/windows ntfs 
user,uid=501,gid=501,iocharset=iso8859-1 0 0
/dev/hdc /mnt/cdrom1 auto defaults,ro,user,noauto 0 0
none /proc proc defaults 0 0
/dev/hda6 swap swap defaults 0 0
/dev/sda1 /mnt/smedia vfat noauto,user



~~~


Output from usbview:

A-TEC SSFDC 
Manufacturer: A-TEC Subsystem Inc.   
Speed: 12Mb/s (full)
USB Version:  1.00
Device Class: 00(>ifc )
Device Subclass: 00
Device Protocol: 00
Maximum Default Endpoint Size: 64
Number of Configurations: 1
Vendor Id: 0874
Product Id: 1002
Revision Number:  2.00

Config Number: 1
	Number of Interfaces: 1
	Attributes: 80
	MaxPower Needed: 100mA

	Interface Number: 0
		Name: (none)
		Alternate Number: 0
		Class: ff(vend.) 
		Sub Class: 0
		Protocol: 0
		Number of Endpoints: 3

			Endpoint Address: 01
			Direction: out
			Attribute: 2
			Type: Bulk
			Max Packet Size: 64
			Interval:   0ms

			Endpoint Address: 82
			Direction: in
			Attribute: 2
			Type: Bulk
			Max Packet Size: 64
			Interval:   0ms

			Endpoint Address: 83
			Direction: in
			Attribute: 3
			Type: Int.
			Max Packet Size: 2
			Interval: 2

~~~

1009 root@psybernet:/etc (11:40:51)
# lsmod
Module                  Size  Used by
vfat                    9968   0  (autoclean)
fat                    32192   0  (autoclean) [vfat]
sd_mod                 11792   0  (autoclean) (unused)
ppp_deflate            42208   0  (autoclean)
bsd_comp                4576   0  (autoclean)
ppp_async               6672   1  (autoclean)
ppp_generic            19616   3  (autoclean) [ppp_deflate bsd_comp 
ppp_async]
slhc                    5136   1  (autoclean) [ppp_generic]
sg                     28624   0  (autoclean)
sr_mod                 14912   0  (autoclean)
lt_serial              20336   3
lt_modem              314720   0  [lt_serial]
maestro3               25280   2
soundcore               4208   2  [maestro3]
ac97_codec              9312   0  [maestro3]
lp                      5808   0
parport_pc             20240   1
parport                24768   1  [lp parport_pc]
irtty                   6000   2  (autoclean)
irda                   93568   1  (autoclean) [irtty]
ds                      6992   2
i82365                 23728   2
pcmcia_core            43936   0  [ds i82365]
ip_vs                  62000   0  (autoclean)
keybdev                 1920   0  (unused)
mousedev                4192   1
hid                    18480   0  (unused)
iptable_nat            16560   0  (autoclean) (unused)
ip_conntrack           15600   1  (autoclean) [iptable_nat]
usbmouse                2048   0  (unused)
input                   3648   0  [keybdev mousedev hid usbmouse]
iptable_mangle          2048   0  (autoclean) (unused)
iptable_filter          2048   0  (autoclean) (unused)
ip_tables              11488   5  [iptable_nat iptable_mangle 
iptable_filter]
usb-uhci               21232   0  (unused)
eepro100               17120   0  (autoclean) (unused)
nls_iso8859-1           2880   1  (autoclean)
ntfs                   49776   1  (autoclean)
usb-storage            52528   0  (unused)
usbcore                50752   1  [hid usbmouse usb-uhci 
usb-storage]
ide-scsi                8096   0
scsi_mod               91072   4  [sd_mod sg sr_mod usb-storage 
ide-scsi]
rtc                     5600   0  (autoclean)
ext3                   63084   2
jbd                    39168   2  [ext3]


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Re: USB device installation

[Tom Beer]

> No I have not compiled anything but have modules loaded that I 
> thought were needed - ie usb-storage, scsi_mod, usbcore, I will 
> append the output of lsmod.

You should try to track down which modules are needed for the
smartcard drive. A quick web search leaded to no results (for me).
The usb modules you installed are for a mouse and a keyboard, as
far as I'm concerned. 

Greets Tom

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Re: USB device installation

[Walter Logeman]

In Re: USB device installation, on Sat, 20 Apr 2002 02:17, 
 Tom Beer wrote:

> You should try to track down which modules are needed for the
> smartcard drive. A quick web search leaded to no results (for
> me). The usb modules you installed are for a mouse and a
> keyboard, as far as I'm concerned.

Hmmm... I cant find a thing, not even to upgrade it for XP.  
However i wonder if i need it?

It thought the modules i had esp usb-storage did it.  I have been 
trawling around for instructions and it seems many people get 
things going with just this module.  But hey, I am a newbie and 
have no idea.

But I have the idea that usb-storage should have created the device 
in dev/  and it did not.  

Or should i link the sda1 (which i have now made to ... something 
like with my dvd drive:

dvd -> /dev/scd0  

Which makes me think the sm card is a pseudo scsi card... it in 
turn is linked thus:

scd0 -> scsi/host0/bus0/target0/lun0/cd

There is also a file n that directory called generic

Could that be it?


Walter

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Re: USB device installation

[Tom Beer]

Hi Walter,

> It thought the modules i had esp usb-storage did it.  I have been 
> trawling around for instructions and it seems many people get 
> things going with just this module.  But hey, I am a newbie and 
> have no idea.

These are regular newbie probs (don't bother, I have similiar ones :-)
That many people get things done with this module means - nothing.
Try to find out which module you need, and then use this particular one.
Picking one module a la carte _won't_ work. This won't work on any
platform. Try to use a device driver designed for product x running
product y under M$ or Apple.

Greets Tom


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Re: USB device installation

[walter]

 In Re: USB device installation, on Sat, 20 Apr 2002 02:17, 
 Tom Beer wrote:

> You should try to track down which modules are needed for the
> smartcard drive. A quick web search leaded to no results (for
> me). The usb modules you installed are for a mouse and a
> keyboard, as far as I'm concerned.

Hmmm... I cant find a thing, not even to upgrade it for XP.  
However i wonder if i need it?

It thought the modules i had, especially usb-storage, did it. I have been
trawling around for instructions and it seems many people get things going with
just this module. But hey, I am a newbie and have no idea.

But I have the idea that usb-storage should have created the device 
in dev/  and it did not.  

Or should i link the sda1 (which i have now made to ... something 
like with my dvd drive:

dvd -> /dev/scd0  

it in turn is linked thus:

scd0 -> scsi/host0/bus0/target0/lun0/cd

Which makes me recall that the sm card is a pseudo scsi card...

There is also a file n that directory called generic

Could that be it?  Something it needs to be linked to.  ??


Walter

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