PPP in Slackware

PPP in Slackware

[Peter]

Hi,

In Slackware 8.0 it seems to me that I can have only one ISP 
installed at a time unlike in RedHat where I have 
3 different ISPs to be called with /sbin/ifup ppp#.

I read all the HOWTO on ppp and can't find a reference.

What would I have to do in Slackware to be able to access more then one ISP 
w/o doing pppsetup first every time I change the ISP ?


Thanks & regards

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Re: PPP in Slackware

[pa3gcu]

On Monday 31 March 2003 06:36, Peter wrote:
> Hi,
>
> In Slackware 8.0 it seems to me that I can have only one ISP
> installed at a time unlike in RedHat where I have
> 3 different ISPs to be called with /sbin/ifup ppp#.
>
> I read all the HOWTO on ppp and can't find a reference.
>
> What would I have to do in Slackware to be able to access more then one ISP
> w/o doing pppsetup first every time I change the ISP ?

I have never used ppp as is, i have always used kppp under KDE, kppp allows 
you to store as many isp's as you wish and will ask you which one you want at 
start time.

There is also a same sort program under GNOME, but i cant remember its name 
at the minute.

>
> Thanks & regards

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PPP in Slackware

[Peter]

Thanks Ray,

I am aware of kppp as well as of gnome-ppp with both I can connect only to one 
ISP in SW8.0. If I try to connect to the second ISP I get

tail messages:

Apr  1 10:33:19 philonline pppd[476]: pppd 2.4.1 started by pfheiss, uid 500
Apr  1 10:33:19 philonline pppd[476]: Using interface ppp0
Apr  1 10:33:19 philonline pppd[476]: Connect: ppp0 <--> /dev/ttyS0
Apr  1 10:33:31 philonline pppd[476]: Remote message: Request Denied
Apr  1 10:33:32 philonline pppd[476]: Connection terminated.
Apr  1 10:33:32 philonline pppd[476]: Exit

tail syslog:

1 10:33:31 philonline pppd[476]: PAP authentication failed

If I do a pppsetup for the second ISP I then can connect to this one, however, 
not anymore to the first one and get the same messages.

I deleted all the files created with pppsetup in /etc/ppp edited pap- and 
chap-secrets, the same, no conncetion to either the first or the second ISP, 
same above messages using either kppp or gnome-ppp

Where is the dog buried?

Regards

Peter










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Re: PPP in Slackware

[Ray Olszewski]

See below.

At 04:47 PM 4/1/2003 +0800, Peter wrote:
>Thanks Ray,
>
>I am aware of kppp as well as of gnome-ppp with both I can connect only to 
>one
>ISP in SW8.0. If I try to connect to the second ISP I get
>
>tail messages:
>
>Apr  1 10:33:19 philonline pppd[476]: pppd 2.4.1 started by pfheiss, uid 500
>Apr  1 10:33:19 philonline pppd[476]: Using interface ppp0
>Apr  1 10:33:19 philonline pppd[476]: Connect: ppp0 <--> /dev/ttyS0
>Apr  1 10:33:31 philonline pppd[476]: Remote message: Request Denied
>Apr  1 10:33:32 philonline pppd[476]: Connection terminated.
>Apr  1 10:33:32 philonline pppd[476]: Exit
>
>tail syslog:
>
>1 10:33:31 philonline pppd[476]: PAP authentication failed
>
>If I do a pppsetup for the second ISP I then can connect to this one, 
>however,
>not anymore to the first one and get the same messages.
>
>I deleted all the files created with pppsetup in /etc/ppp edited pap- and
>chap-secrets, the same, no conncetion to either the first or the second ISP,
>same above messages using either kppp or gnome-ppp
>
>Where is the dog buried?

Somewhere in your back yard, no doubt. But really, Peter, how do you expect 
a helpful answer with so little information?

For the unsucessful attempt, you characterize it only as"If I try to 
connect to the second ISP". How? With what configuration file? What do the 
messages from a *successful* connection look like to compare this to? Is 
the syslog entry you provide the *only* one? Is the "failed" ISP even using 
PAP?

Just to be clear ... if this were some familiar idiosyncracy of Slackware 
8.0, I expect a Slackware user on this list would already have answered 
your question. And if you are lucky, someone may yet do so.

But the silence (aside from Richard's more general response) up till now 
leads me to think this is a problem that involves some peculiarity of your 
setup. To troubleshoot that, we need a good description of what you are 
attempting ... the questions I asked in the prior paragraph *illustrate* 
the kinds of info we need, but they are not an *exhaustive* list, so please 
don't treat them as one. Instead, think what you would want to know about 
this problem if someone were asking you for help, and use that to compose a 
report to us.



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Re: PPP in Slackware

[pa3gcu]

On Tuesday 01 April 2003 08:47, Peter wrote:
> Thanks Ray,
               ^^^ Ray,? I belive i was the one who said i use multiple 
sessions with KPPP and i did mention there is also a work alike program under 
GNOME.

> I am aware of kppp as well as of gnome-ppp with both I can connect only to
> one ISP in SW8.0. If I try to connect to the second ISP I get

As Ray has explained quite well i have no futher comments more as to say use 
KPPP, it will do what you want.

>
> tail messages:
>
> Apr  1 10:33:19 philonline pppd[476]: pppd 2.4.1 started by pfheiss, uid
> 500 Apr  1 10:33:19 philonline pppd[476]: Using interface ppp0
> Apr  1 10:33:19 philonline pppd[476]: Connect: ppp0 <--> /dev/ttyS0
> Apr  1 10:33:31 philonline pppd[476]: Remote message: Request Denied
> Apr  1 10:33:32 philonline pppd[476]: Connection terminated.
> Apr  1 10:33:32 philonline pppd[476]: Exit
>
> tail syslog:
>
> 1 10:33:31 philonline pppd[476]: PAP authentication failed
>
> If I do a pppsetup for the second ISP I then can connect to this one,
> however, not anymore to the first one and get the same messages.
>
> I deleted all the files created with pppsetup in /etc/ppp edited pap- and
> chap-secrets, the same, no conncetion to either the first or the second
> ISP, same above messages using either kppp or gnome-ppp
>
> Where is the dog buried?
>
> Regards
>
> Peter
>
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Re: PPP in Slackware

[Heimo Claasen]

Richard - how do you make Kppp work in an exclusively Gnome environment ?
(Gnome-ppp is not at all the same thing re functionalities.)
Note that for other reasons, I cannot install any of the Qt/KDE (GUI-
providing) libraries; it's all Gtk.

Another problem is that I cannot find a "kppp" package by itself, it's
part of a whole bundel of KDE utilities wrapped together insto one
package in (some of) the RPM-based distros/installations.


// Heimo Claasen // <hammer at revobild dot net> // Brussels 2003-04-03
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Re: PPP in Slackware

[Peter]

pa3gcu@zeelandnet.nl said:
> As Ray has explained quite well i have no futher comments more as to
> say use  KPPP, it will do what you want.

Unfortunately it is not the case.

I suspect the pppsetup is where the dog is buried. Before I used kppp or for 
that matter gnome-ppp I had done a pppsetup. Only the ISP I choose in pppsetup 
is the one I can connect with in kppp/gppp. If I want to use another ISP I 
have to change it in pppsetup. I can't help it these are the facts.

/var/log/messages with pppsetup ISP opened with kppp
Apr  3 10:28:58 philonline pppd[253]: pppd 2.4.1 started by pfheiss, uid 500
Apr  3 10:28:58 philonline pppd[253]: Using interface ppp0
Apr  3 10:28:58 philonline pppd[253]: Connect: ppp0 <--> /dev/ttyS0
Apr  3 10:29:05 philonline pppd[253]: Remote message: Login Succeeded
Apr  3 10:29:05 philonline pppd[253]: local  IP address 202.78.107.79
Apr  3 10:29:05 philonline pppd[253]: remote IP address 202.78.97.196
Apr  3 10:29:05 philonline pppd[253]: primary   DNS address 202.78.97.2
Apr  3 10:29:05 philonline pppd[253]: secondary DNS address 202.78.97.3
Apr  3 10:29:09 philonline pppd[253]: Terminating on signal 15.
Apr  3 10:29:10 philonline pppd[253]: Connection terminated.
Apr  3 10:29:10 philonline pppd[253]: Connect time 0.2 minutes.
Apr  3 10:29:10 philonline pppd[253]: Sent 115 bytes, received 97 bytes.
Apr  3 10:29:10 philonline pppd[253]: Exit.

/var/log/messages with non-pppsetup ISP opened with kppp
Apr  3 10:29:50 philonline pppd[266]: pppd 2.4.1 started by pfheiss, uid 500
Apr  3 10:29:50 philonline pppd[266]: Using interface ppp0
Apr  3 10:29:50 philonline pppd[266]: Connect: ppp0 <--> /dev/ttyS0
Apr  3 10:29:54 philonline pppd[266]: Remote message: Invalid Login
Apr  3 10:30:00 philonline pppd[266]: Connection terminated.
Apr  3 10:30:00 philonline pppd[266]: Exit.

and syslog: PAP authentication failed

To my reading it is pppsetup which puts a lock somewhere that only "its ISP" 
can be connected to even when I have deleted all its files I know off.

I now reinstalled all the network section n1. That wiped-out the pppsetup. I 
then edited the necessary files in /etc/hosts and /etc/ppp/pap/chat/options 
with the result that kppp tries to connect to either ISP, however, cannot make 
the final connection and gives up after running the message: interface is 
down.
I must have missed-out something.
There are no messages in syslog and the following in /var/log/messages

Apr  3 08:30:54 philonline pppd[220]: pppd 2.4.1 started by pfheiss, uid 500
Apr  3 08:31:28 philonline pppd[220]: Serial connection established.
Apr  3 08:31:28 philonline pppd[220]: Using interface ppp0
Apr  3 08:31:28 philonline pppd[220]: Connect: ppp0 <--> /dev/modem
Apr  3 08:31:42 philonline pppd[220]: Terminating on signal 15.
Apr  3 08:31:42 philonline pppd[220]: Connection terminated.
Apr  3 08:31:43 philonline pppd[220]: Terminating on signal 15.
Apr  3 08:31:43 philonline pppd[220]: Exit.

If nothing helps I will reinstall Slackware and then avoid using pppsetup.

Regards

 
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Peter





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Re: PPP in Slackware

[pa3gcu]

On Thursday 03 April 2003 03:52, Peter wrote:
> pa3gcu@zeelandnet.nl said:
> > As Ray has explained quite well i have no futher comments more as to
> > say use  KPPP, it will do what you want.
>
> Unfortunately it is not the case.

Unless i8 am missing some very spesific machine problems you may or may not 
have i can say, Yes, kppp WILL do what you want and need.

KPPP is capable of handeling different ISP accounts very well, it lets you 
configure "accounts" for different ISP's meaning different login names and 
different passwords for all your accounts.

> I suspect the pppsetup is where the dog is buried. Before I used kppp or
> for that matter gnome-ppp I had done a pppsetup. Only the ISP I choose in
> pppsetup is the one I can connect with in kppp/gppp. If I want to use
> another ISP I have to change it in pppsetup. I can't help it these are the
> facts.
>
> /var/log/messages with pppsetup ISP opened with kppp
> Apr  3 10:28:58 philonline pppd[253]: pppd 2.4.1 started by pfheiss, uid
> 500 Apr  3 10:28:58 philonline pppd[253]: Using interface ppp0
> Apr  3 10:28:58 philonline pppd[253]: Connect: ppp0 <--> /dev/ttyS0
> Apr  3 10:29:05 philonline pppd[253]: Remote message: Login Succeeded
> Apr  3 10:29:05 philonline pppd[253]: local  IP address 202.78.107.79
> Apr  3 10:29:05 philonline pppd[253]: remote IP address 202.78.97.196
> Apr  3 10:29:05 philonline pppd[253]: primary   DNS address 202.78.97.2
> Apr  3 10:29:05 philonline pppd[253]: secondary DNS address 202.78.97.3
> Apr  3 10:29:09 philonline pppd[253]: Terminating on signal 15.
> Apr  3 10:29:10 philonline pppd[253]: Connection terminated.
> Apr  3 10:29:10 philonline pppd[253]: Connect time 0.2 minutes.
> Apr  3 10:29:10 philonline pppd[253]: Sent 115 bytes, received 97 bytes.
> Apr  3 10:29:10 philonline pppd[253]: Exit.
>
> /var/log/messages with non-pppsetup ISP opened with kppp
> Apr  3 10:29:50 philonline pppd[266]: pppd 2.4.1 started by pfheiss, uid
> 500 Apr  3 10:29:50 philonline pppd[266]: Using interface ppp0
> Apr  3 10:29:50 philonline pppd[266]: Connect: ppp0 <--> /dev/ttyS0
> Apr  3 10:29:54 philonline pppd[266]: Remote message: Invalid Login
> Apr  3 10:30:00 philonline pppd[266]: Connection terminated.
> Apr  3 10:30:00 philonline pppd[266]: Exit.

The above is what KPPP allows you to store in different accounts, ie, 
different loging names and different passwd's period.

>
> and syslog: PAP authentication failed
>
> To my reading it is pppsetup which puts a lock somewhere that only "its
> ISP" can be connected to even when I have deleted all its files I know off.

I have never used pppsetup but i am very familier with it and i know how it 
works.
Belive me, KPPP is what you want.

>
> I now reinstalled all the network section n1. That wiped-out the pppsetup.
> I then edited the necessary files in /etc/hosts and
> /etc/ppp/pap/chat/options with the result that kppp tries to connect to
> either ISP, however, cannot make the final connection and gives up after
> running the message: interface is down.
> I must have missed-out something.
> There are no messages in syslog and the following in /var/log/messages
>
> Apr  3 08:30:54 philonline pppd[220]: pppd 2.4.1 started by pfheiss, uid
> 500 Apr  3 08:31:28 philonline pppd[220]: Serial connection established.
> Apr  3 08:31:28 philonline pppd[220]: Using interface ppp0
> Apr  3 08:31:28 philonline pppd[220]: Connect: ppp0 <--> /dev/modem
> Apr  3 08:31:42 philonline pppd[220]: Terminating on signal 15.
> Apr  3 08:31:42 philonline pppd[220]: Connection terminated.
> Apr  3 08:31:43 philonline pppd[220]: Terminating on signal 15.
> Apr  3 08:31:43 philonline pppd[220]: Exit.
>
> If nothing helps I will reinstall Slackware and then avoid using pppsetup.
>
> Regards

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Re: PPP in Slackware

[Peter]

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Re: PPP in Slackware

[Peter]

Richard if you think only Dutchmen are stubborn you are mistaken. ;-)

I now reinstalled SW8.0 and as I suspected kppp connected to the different 
ISPs as I know it would since the time I had a SUSE 5.1 box, provided you do 
not run pppsetup first. To make sure now not to make this mistake again I 
deleted that program first thing. Gnome-ppp works just as well now.

pa3gcu@zeelandnet.nl said:
> pa3gcu@zeelandnet.nl said:
>> As Ray has explained quite well i have no futher comments more as to
>> say use  KPPP, it will do what you want.

> Unfortunately it is not the case.

> Unless i am missing some very spesific machine problems you may or
> may not  have i can say, Yes, kppp WILL do what you want and need.


> I suspect the pppsetup is where the dog is buried. Before I used kppp or
> for that matter gnome-ppp I had done a pppsetup. Only the ISP I choose in
> pppsetup is the one I can connect with in kppp/gnome-ppp. If I want to use
> another ISP I have to change it in pppsetup. I can't help it these are
> the facts.

Regards
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Re: PPP in Slackware

[pa3gcu]

On Thursday 01 January 1970 00:00, Heimo Claasen wrote:
> Richard - how do you make Kppp work in an exclusively Gnome environment ?
> (Gnome-ppp is not at all the same thing re functionalities.)
> Note that for other reasons, I cannot install any of the Qt/KDE (GUI-
> providing) libraries; it's all Gtk.
>
> Another problem is that I cannot find a "kppp" package by itself, it's
> part of a whole bundel of KDE utilities wrapped together insto one
> package in (some of) the RPM-based distros/installations.

I have never used Gnome for any lenth of time, i have really no idea how it 
works with kde apps.
Maybe someone else could help you more.

>
> // Heimo Claasen // <hammer at revobild dot net> // Brussels 2003-04-03
> The WebPlace of ReRead - and much to read  ==>  http://www.revobild.net
>

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Re: PPP in Slackware

[pa3gcu]

On Friday 04 April 2003 07:59, Peter wrote:
> Richard if you think only Dutchmen are stubborn you are mistaken. ;-)

Subborn,! well i suppose we all have our views and sometimes make them known.

>
> I now reinstalled SW8.0 and as I suspected kppp connected to the different
> ISPs as I know it would since the time I had a SUSE 5.1 box, provided you
> do not run pppsetup first. To make sure now not to make this mistake again
> I deleted that program first thing. Gnome-ppp works just as well now.

I dont think a reinstall was nessasary at all, all you needed to do was 
remove the pppsetup files in /etc/ppp .

Anyway i am glad to hear your problems are now somewhat smaller.


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Re: PPP in Slackware

[Peter]

pa3gcu@zeelandnet.nl said:
> I dont think a reinstall was nessasary at all, all you needed to do
> was  remove the pppsetup files in /etc/ppp .

That's what I did first, then rebooted, it still did not work. Then I 
reinstalled all the network n1 files. That must have killed all the pppsetup 
stuff, however, then kppp would not connect just giving the message: 
interface 
is down.

I am sending this message out of RH7.3 more as a test. Since for the last 2 
weeks I could not send messages to linux-newbie@vger.kernel.org using my 
philonline.com ISP. The messages bounce back with: relay=zeus.kernel.org host 
not found, yet yesterday in SW8.0 a test message went trough. To send e-mail 
in RH to this list I have to use my alternate ISP.

Regards
-- 
Peter

ps: it did not go out again in RH with exmh mailer now I am trying SW with 
kmail.

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