How to update JRE?

How to update JRE?

[David Jones]

I have a *very recently updated* (like installed and 
completely apt-getted and updated and such like 10 
days ago) Debian. It came with a JRE identifying itself 
as 1.4.1, build Blackdown-1.4.1-01. I've been informed 
by the author of a certain Java program that I like (at the 
moment, not the author, just the program!) to go the Sun 
JRE link on his web site and download that version - 
which, according to the target of the link on his web 
page, is version 1.4.1 ... anyway, how does one update 
a JRE on Linux? I've only done it on WIndows and OS/2 
(both via an executable that you download and run).

Sorry for asking something so basic, I got hit in the 
head this morning with a 100-lb PA speaker, and the two 
brain cells haven't regained communications between 
themselves yet ... 

David
gnome@hawaii.rr.com

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Re: How to update JRE?

[James Turnbull]

David Jones wrote:
> I have a *very recently updated* (like installed and
> completely apt-getted and updated and such like 10
> days ago) Debian. It came with a JRE identifying itself
> as 1.4.1, build Blackdown-1.4.1-01. I've been informed
> by the author of a certain Java program that I like (at the
> moment, not the author, just the program!) to go the Sun
> JRE link on his web site and download that version -
> which, according to the target of the link on his web
> page, is version 1.4.1 ... anyway, how does one update
> a JRE on Linux? I've only done it on WIndows and OS/2
> (both via an executable that you download and run).

At the Sun Site http://java.sun.com/j2se/1.4.1/download.html there is a .bin
file available to download.

Here are instructions for unpacking .bin files:

http://mandrakeforum.com/article.php?sid=2329

Regards

James Turnbull

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Re: How to update JRE?

[beolach]

Before installing Sun's version of JRE, you might want to
look into the differences between Sun's and Blackdown's JRE.
As far as I understand it, if you use the latest version of
Sun's JRE (1.4.2), it is the best choice, but if you want to
use version 1.4.1 or older, you might need to use Blackdown
if you want to use the plugins in Mozilla, if Mozilla was
compiled with gcc ver. 3.x. A nice summary page is available
at <http://plugindoc.mozdev.org/whichjava.html>.

But remember, this only applies to JRE 1.4.1 or older, with
Sun's JRE 1.4.2 this is no longer an issue, and so Sun's JRE
1.4.2 will probably be your best choice, unless the program
you want to run specifically says it will only work with an
older version.

Just my 2 cents worth,
Conway S. Smith

--- "James Turnbull" <james@lovedthanlost.net> wrote:
> 
> David Jones wrote:
> > I have a *very recently updated* (like installed and
> > completely apt-getted and updated and such like 10
> > days ago) Debian. It came with a JRE identifying itself
> > as 1.4.1, build Blackdown-1.4.1-01. I've been informed
> > by the author of a certain Java program that I like (at the
> > moment, not the author, just the program!) to go the Sun
> > JRE link on his web site and download that version -
> > which, according to the target of the link on his web
> > page, is version 1.4.1 ... anyway, how does one update
> > a JRE on Linux? I've only done it on WIndows and OS/2
> > (both via an executable that you download and run).
> 
> At the Sun Site http://java.sun.com/j2se/1.4.1/download.html there is > a .bin
> file available to download.
> 
> Here are instructions for unpacking .bin files:
> 
> http://mandrakeforum.com/article.php?sid=2329
> 

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Re: How to update JRE?

[Stephen Kitchener]

On Monday 21 Jul 2003 20:50 pm, beolach@juno.com wrote:

Hmmm - looked on Sun's site, didn't see a 1.4.2 anywhere, only a 1.4.1-03, do 
you know where it is ??

> Before installing Sun's version of JRE, you might want to
> look into the differences between Sun's and Blackdown's JRE.
> As far as I understand it, if you use the latest version of
> Sun's JRE (1.4.2), it is the best choice, but if you want to
> use version 1.4.1 or older, you might need to use Blackdown
> if you want to use the plugins in Mozilla, if Mozilla was
> compiled with gcc ver. 3.x. A nice summary page is available
> at <http://plugindoc.mozdev.org/whichjava.html>.
>
> But remember, this only applies to JRE 1.4.1 or older, with
> Sun's JRE 1.4.2 this is no longer an issue, and so Sun's JRE
> 1.4.2 will probably be your best choice, unless the program
> you want to run specifically says it will only work with an
> older version.
>
> Just my 2 cents worth,
> Conway S. Smith
>
> --- "James Turnbull" <james@lovedthanlost.net> wrote:
> > David Jones wrote:
> > > I have a *very recently updated* (like installed and
> > > completely apt-getted and updated and such like 10
> > > days ago) Debian. It came with a JRE identifying itself
> > > as 1.4.1, build Blackdown-1.4.1-01. I've been informed
> > > by the author of a certain Java program that I like (at the
> > > moment, not the author, just the program!) to go the Sun
> > > JRE link on his web site and download that version -
> > > which, according to the target of the link on his web
> > > page, is version 1.4.1 ... anyway, how does one update
> > > a JRE on Linux? I've only done it on WIndows and OS/2
> > > (both via an executable that you download and run).
> >
> > At the Sun Site http://java.sun.com/j2se/1.4.1/download.html there is > a
> > .bin file available to download.
> >
> > Here are instructions for unpacking .bin files:
> >
> > http://mandrakeforum.com/article.php?sid=2329
>
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Re: How to update JRE?

[beolach]

<http://plugindoc.mozdev.org/linux.html> has a link; it goes
to <http://java.sun.com/j2se/1.4.2/download.html>.  It looks
like this might be the 1.4.2 SDK, but it does have the VM and
JRE as well as the SDK.  If I remember right from when I
installed it, it installs to a different location from the
older JREs, so I had to tweak all my browsers plugin search
paths.

Conway S. Smith

--- Stephen Kitchener <stephen@g6dzj.demon.co.uk> wrote:
> 
> On Monday 21 Jul 2003 20:50 pm, beolach@juno.com wrote:
> 
> Hmmm - looked on Sun's site, didn't see a 1.4.2 anywhere, only a 1.4.1-03, do 
> you know where it is ??
> 
> > Before installing Sun's version of JRE, you might want to
> > look into the differences between Sun's and Blackdown's JRE.
> > As far as I understand it, if you use the latest version of
> > Sun's JRE (1.4.2), it is the best choice, but if you want to
> > use version 1.4.1 or older, you might need to use Blackdown
> > if you want to use the plugins in Mozilla, if Mozilla was
> > compiled with gcc ver. 3.x. A nice summary page is available
> > at <http://plugindoc.mozdev.org/whichjava.html>.
> >
> > But remember, this only applies to JRE 1.4.1 or older, with
> > Sun's JRE 1.4.2 this is no longer an issue, and so Sun's JRE
> > 1.4.2 will probably be your best choice, unless the program
> > you want to run specifically says it will only work with an
> > older version.
> > 

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Re: How to update JRE?

[beolach]

> ...  It looks
> like this might be the 1.4.2 SDK, but it does have the VM and
> JRE as well as the SDK.

Oops.  Didn't look far enough down the page.
<http://java.sun.com/j2se/1.4.2/download.html> has downloads for
both the SDK (at the top, all I saw at first) and the standard
JRE.

Conway S. Smith


--- beolach@juno.com wrote:
> 
> <http://plugindoc.mozdev.org/linux.html> has a link; it goes
> to <http://java.sun.com/j2se/1.4.2/download.html>.  It looks
> like this might be the 1.4.2 SDK, but it does have the VM and
> JRE as well as the SDK.  If I remember right from when I
> installed it, it installs to a different location from the
> older JREs, so I had to tweak all my browsers plugin search
> paths.
> 
> Conway S. Smith

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Re: How to update JRE?

[Stephen Kitchener]

On Monday 21 Jul 2003 22:44 pm, beolach@juno.com wrote:
Thanks Conway.

Getting them now 

> <http://plugindoc.mozdev.org/linux.html> has a link; it goes
> to <http://java.sun.com/j2se/1.4.2/download.html>.  It looks
> like this might be the 1.4.2 SDK, but it does have the VM and
> JRE as well as the SDK.  If I remember right from when I
> installed it, it installs to a different location from the
> older JREs, so I had to tweak all my browsers plugin search
> paths.
>
> Conway S. Smith
>
> --- Stephen Kitchener <stephen@g6dzj.demon.co.uk> wrote:
> > On Monday 21 Jul 2003 20:50 pm, beolach@juno.com wrote:
> >
> > Hmmm - looked on Sun's site, didn't see a 1.4.2 anywhere, only a
> > 1.4.1-03, do you know where it is ??
> >
> > > Before installing Sun's version of JRE, you might want to
> > > look into the differences between Sun's and Blackdown's JRE.
> > > As far as I understand it, if you use the latest version of
> > > Sun's JRE (1.4.2), it is the best choice, but if you want to
> > > use version 1.4.1 or older, you might need to use Blackdown
> > > if you want to use the plugins in Mozilla, if Mozilla was
> > > compiled with gcc ver. 3.x. A nice summary page is available
> > > at <http://plugindoc.mozdev.org/whichjava.html>.
> > >
> > > But remember, this only applies to JRE 1.4.1 or older, with
> > > Sun's JRE 1.4.2 this is no longer an issue, and so Sun's JRE
> > > 1.4.2 will probably be your best choice, unless the program
> > > you want to run specifically says it will only work with an
> > > older version.
>
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Re: How to update JRE?

[David Jones]

On 21 Jul 03, at 19:50, beolach@juno.com wrote:

> Before installing Sun's version of JRE, you might want to
> look into the differences between Sun's and Blackdown's
> JRE. As far as I understand it, if you use the latest
> version of Sun's JRE (1.4.2), it is the best choice, but
> if you want to use version 1.4.1 or older, you might need
> to use Blackdown if you want to use the plugins in
> Mozilla, if Mozilla was compiled with gcc ver. 3.x. A nice
> summary page is available at
> <http://plugindoc.mozdev.org/whichjava.html>.

I'll check into that. I do use Mozilla.

> But remember, this only applies to JRE 1.4.1 or older,
> with Sun's JRE 1.4.2 this is no longer an issue, and so
> Sun's JRE 1.4.2 will probably be your best choice, unless
> the program you want to run specifically says it will only
> work with an older version.

Thanks ... I've gotten increasingly-hostile responses 
from the author of the program, he basically is being 
very adament - Sun JRE 1.4.1 (although the instructions 
on his web page also say "or newer"). As far as he's 
concerned, Blackdown is a "cheap knockoff" and he 
refuses to have anything to do with it.

I think I'll go ahead and update to the JRE 1.4.2, and 
see if the program in question works. If it doesn't, Oh, 
well!

David
gnome@hawaii.rr.com

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Re: How to update JRE?

[David Jones]

On 21 Jul 03, at 15:31, James Turnbull wrote:

> David Jones wrote:
> > I have a *very recently updated* (like installed and
> > completely apt-getted and updated and such like 10 days
> > ago) Debian. It came with a JRE identifying itself as
> > 1.4.1, build Blackdown-1.4.1-01. I've been informed by
> > the author of a certain Java program that I like (at the
> > moment, not the author, just the program!) to go the Sun
> > JRE link on his web site and download that version -
> > which, according to the target of the link on his web
> > page, is version 1.4.1 ... anyway, how does one update a
> > JRE on Linux? I've only done it on WIndows and OS/2
> > (both via an executable that you download and run).
> 
> At the Sun Site
> http://java.sun.com/j2se/1.4.1/download.html there is a
> .bin file available to download.
> 
> Here are instructions for unpacking .bin files:
> 
> http://mandrakeforum.com/article.php?sid=2329

Thanks, will look in to that.

David
gnome@hawaii.rr.com

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Re: How to update JRE?

[David Jones]

http://java.sun.com/j2se/downloads.html

When I was there earlier, it was a beta release. Just 
checked it now, and it's apparently no longer beta.

David
gnome@hawaii.rr.com

On 21 Jul 03, at 22:14, Stephen Kitchener wrote:

> On Monday 21 Jul 2003 20:50 pm, beolach@juno.com wrote:
> 
> Hmmm - looked on Sun's site, didn't see a 1.4.2 anywhere,
> only a 1.4.1-03, do you know where it is ??
> 
> > Before installing Sun's version of JRE, you might want
> > to look into the differences between Sun's and
> > Blackdown's JRE. As far as I understand it, if you use
> > the latest version of Sun's JRE (1.4.2), it is the best
> > choice, but if you want to use version 1.4.1 or older,
> > you might need to use Blackdown if you want to use the
> > plugins in Mozilla, if Mozilla was compiled with gcc
> > ver. 3.x. A nice summary page is available at
> > <http://plugindoc.mozdev.org/whichjava.html>.
> >
> > But remember, this only applies to JRE 1.4.1 or older,
> > with Sun's JRE 1.4.2 this is no longer an issue, and so
> > Sun's JRE 1.4.2 will probably be your best choice,
> > unless the program you want to run specifically says it
> > will only work with an older version.
> >
> > Just my 2 cents worth,
> > Conway S. Smith
> >
> > --- "James Turnbull" <james@lovedthanlost.net> wrote:
> > > David Jones wrote:
> > > > I have a *very recently updated* (like installed and
> > > > completely apt-getted and updated and such like 10
> > > > days ago) Debian. It came with a JRE identifying
> > > > itself as 1.4.1, build Blackdown-1.4.1-01. I've been
> > > > informed by the author of a certain Java program
> > > > that I like (at the moment, not the author, just the
> > > > program!) to go the Sun JRE link on his web site and
> > > > download that version - which, according to the
> > > > target of the link on his web page, is version 1.4.1
> > > > ... anyway, how does one update a JRE on Linux? I've
> > > > only done it on WIndows and OS/2 (both via an
> > > > executable that you download and run).
> > >
> > > At the Sun Site
> > > http://java.sun.com/j2se/1.4.1/download.html there is
> > > > a .bin file available to download.
> > >
> > > Here are instructions for unpacking .bin files:
> > >
> > > http://mandrakeforum.com/article.php?sid=2329
> >
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Re: How to update JRE?

[CaT]

On Sun, Jul 20, 2003 at 04:32:24PM -1000, David Jones wrote:
> page, is version 1.4.1 ... anyway, how does one update 
> a JRE on Linux? I've only done it on WIndows and OS/2 

Try looking here:

http://mozilla.weebeastie.net/java.shtml

The instructions are primarily for installing java for moz but will
suit you just the same I believe.

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