CD-RW-Drive

CD-RW-Drive

[Peter H.]

Season Greetings,

Slackware 10, Kernel 2.4.26

I got myself an Asus Atapi CD-RW-Drive and I am not sure if this was the right 
choice for Linux. I was able to make it work following the instruction of the 
program xcdroast, however, some things seem strange.

I always get error messages telling not to use atapi instead scsi.

I had a CD with picture files on. When I copied them to the HD I can't open 
them and copying back to the CD I can't open them as well any longer. In fact 
I can not mount the CD anymore. Only xcdroast can.
$ mount /mnt/cdrom
mount: Not a directory

Trying too boot Knoppix 3.4 from the CD I get only a blank screen. Booting 
from CD and then switching to HD, Knoppix works alright.

It seems that xcdroast can only write .wav and .iso files?????

Questions:

Is there a better CD-RW-Drive for Linux than Asus? The shop is willing to 
exxchange.

Are there better programs than xcdroast to R+W and which?

Thanks & regards
 
   
-- 
Peter

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Re: CD-RW-Drive

[Richard Adams]

On Wednesday 29 December 2004 08:06, Peter H. wrote:
> Season Greetings,
>
> Slackware 10, Kernel 2.4.26
>
> I got myself an Asus Atapi CD-RW-Drive and I am not sure if this was the
> right choice for Linux. I was able to make it work following the
> instruction of the program xcdroast, however, some things seem strange.
>
> I always get error messages telling not to use atapi instead scsi.

With 2.4.x kernels scsi is correct, add the following to /etc/lilo.conf
and rerun lilo.

append "/dev/hdc=ide-scsi"

( thats of my head, possably someone else may need to verify the syntax).
(( where /dev/hdc is your device)).

> I had a CD with picture files on. When I copied them to the HD I can't open
> them and copying back to the CD I can't open them as well any longer. In
> fact I can not mount the CD anymore. Only xcdroast can.
> $ mount /mnt/cdrom
> mount: Not a directory
>
> Trying too boot Knoppix 3.4 from the CD I get only a blank screen. Booting
> from CD and then switching to HD, Knoppix works alright.
>
> It seems that xcdroast can only write .wav and .iso files?????

No xcdraost does most all formats.

> Questions:
>
> Is there a better CD-RW-Drive for Linux than Asus? The shop is willing to
> exxchange.

Nothing wrong with mine works like a charm.

>
> Are there better programs than xcdroast to R+W and which?

There is k3b but i prefer xcdroast...

>
> Thanks & regards

-- 
If the Linux community is a bunch of thieves because they
try to imitate windows programs, then the Windows community
is built on organized crime.

Regards Richard
pa3gcu@zeelandnet.nl
http://people.zeelandnet.nl/pa3gcu/

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Re: CD-RW-Drive

[Peter Garrett]

On Wed, 29 Dec 2004 15:06:43 +0800
"Peter H." <heisspf@skyinet.net> wrote:

> Season Greetings,
> 
> Slackware 10, Kernel 2.4.26
> 
> I got myself an Asus Atapi CD-RW-Drive and I am not sure if this was
> the right 
> choice for Linux. I was able to make it work following the
> instruction of the 
> program xcdroast, however, some things seem strange.
> 
> I always get error messages telling not to use atapi instead scsi.

Since you are using a 2.4.26 kernel, you might want to try ide-scsi
emulation.  It is deprecated for 2.6.* kernels but should be fine
with yours. If your boot loader is lilo, you can put

append="hda=scsi hdb=scsi hdc=scsi" 

or whatever devices you need scsi emulation for. I have no experience
with grub, but someone will know on this list, I'm sure.
(The append line goes in  /etc/lilo.conf  - which you will of course
need to edit as root in your editor of choice. After editing it be
sure to run/sbin/lilo-v before rebooting! Otherwise your changes won't
take effect... ) The -v for running lilo is "verbose", which might be
useful if you make an error.


> 
> I had a CD with picture files on. When I copied them to the HD I
> can't open 
> them and copying back to the CD I can't open them as well any
> longer. In fact 
> I can not mount the CD anymore. Only xcdroast can.
> $ mount /mnt/cdrom
> mount: Not a directory

This is a mystery to me, sorry - maybe someone else has a suggestion.
> 
> Trying too boot Knoppix 3.4 from the CD I get only a blank screen.
> Booting 
> from CD and then switching to HD, Knoppix works alright.
> 
> It seems that xcdroast can only write .wav and .iso files?????
> 
> Questions:
> 
> Is there a better CD-RW-Drive for Linux than Asus? The shop is
> willing to 
> exxchange.
> 
> Are there better programs than xcdroast to R+W and which?

For sheer ease of use I doubt that anything beats k3b (a KDE app - but
it will of course run happily with whatever window manager/ desktop
environment you prefer) Using the command line directly is quicker,
but confusing at first. K3b is an excellent, user-friendly CD burning
GUI program, with easy dialogs and buttons. XCDroast is fine, but k3b
is easier to use, in my opinion.
> 
> Thanks & regards
>  
>    
> -- 
> Peter
> 
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Re: CD-RW-Drive

[Peter Garrett]

Just a quick follow-up to correct a typo:

the command to run after editing /etc/lilo.conf is

/sbin/lilo -v

(I believe I ran two words together, which might have been confusing)

Also as to placement of the append line; it goes in the stanza that
looks something like this one:

image=/vmlinuz
        label=Linux
        initrd=/boot/initrd.gz
        read-only
        append="hdc=ide-scsi hdd=ide-scsi"


you may or may not have the initrd line, depending on your kernel. Don't
change anything except the append line. And then after saving, run lilo
as above. (this bears repeating as it is easy to forget!) I have two CD
drives, hdc and hdd. You may have only one, in which case the two
entries are unnecessary, although they won't harm anything.


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Re: CD-RW-Drive

[Jim Nelson]

Peter H. wrote:
> Season Greetings,
> 
> Slackware 10, Kernel 2.4.26
> 
> I got myself an Asus Atapi CD-RW-Drive and I am not sure if this was the right 
> choice for Linux. I was able to make it work following the instruction of the 
> program xcdroast, however, some things seem strange.
> 
> I always get error messages telling not to use atapi instead scsi.
> 
> I had a CD with picture files on. When I copied them to the HD I can't open 
> them and copying back to the CD I can't open them as well any longer. In fact 
> I can not mount the CD anymore. Only xcdroast can.
> $ mount /mnt/cdrom
> mount: Not a directory
> 

I've had similar problems with Slackware - it doesn't always set the /dev/cdrom 
symlink properly, and *really* has problems with external (SCSI, USB) CDROM 
drives.  you might want to try the full mount command (as root):

mount -t iso9660 /dev/hdb /mnt/cdrom

> Trying too boot Knoppix 3.4 from the CD I get only a blank screen. Booting 
> from CD and then switching to HD, Knoppix works alright.
> 
> It seems that xcdroast can only write .wav and .iso files?????
> 

Somewhat.  k3b is better at creating iso files, and lets you drag and drop the 
file system on the CD, but sometimes (for more advanced efforts - creating 
bootable CD's, Mac-format CD's, etc) you still need to use the mkisofs | cdrecord 
command line combo.

> Questions:
> 
> Is there a better CD-RW-Drive for Linux than Asus? The shop is willing to 
> exxchange.
> 
> Are there better programs than xcdroast to R+W and which?
> 
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Re: CD-RW-Drive

[chuck gelm]

Peter H. wrote:
> Season Greetings,
> 
> Slackware 10, Kernel 2.4.26
> 
> I got myself an Asus Atapi CD-RW-Drive and I am not sure if this was the right 
> choice for Linux. I was able to make it work following the instruction of the 
> program xcdroast, however, some things seem strange.
> 
> I always get error messages telling not to use atapi instead scsi.

  Are you using 'SCSI emulation' instead of ATAPI?

> I had a CD with picture files on. When I copied them to the HD I can't open 
> them and copying back to the CD I can't open them as well any longer. In fact 
> I can not mount the CD anymore. Only xcdroast can.
> $ mount /mnt/cdrom
> mount: Not a directory
> 
> Trying too boot Knoppix 3.4 from the CD I get only a blank screen. Booting 
> from CD and then switching to HD, Knoppix works alright.
> 
> It seems that xcdroast can only write .wav and .iso files?????
> 
> Questions:
> 
> Is there a better CD-RW-Drive for Linux than Asus? The shop is willing to 
> exxchange.
> 
> Are there better programs than xcdroast to R+W and which?
> 
> Thanks & regards

Dear Peter H.:

  During instalation of Slackware, it offers SCSI emulation and places
the statement in the first (executed) line of lilo.conf.  Here is mine:
head -n 9 /etc/lilo.conf
# LILO configuration file
# generated by 'liloconfig'
#
# Start LILO global section
append="hdc=ide-scsi"
boot = /dev/hdb2
message = /boot/boot_message.txt
prompt
timeout = 99

HTH, Chuck




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Re: CD-RW-Drive

[Ray Olszewski]

I'm coming into this discussion fairly late, so I'll try not to duplicate 
what others have already covered.

At 03:06 PM 12/29/2004 +0800, Peter H. wrote:

>Season Greetings,
>
>Slackware 10, Kernel 2.4.26
>
>I got myself an Asus Atapi CD-RW-Drive and I am not sure if this was the 
>right
>choice for Linux.

ATAPI drives are pretty standard things these days, so I'd be surprised if 
there was any special problem with this model as such. Any model will 
occasionally have an individual defective drive though, so you shouldn't 
completely rule out that possibility. But the rest of what you write leaves 
me guessing that you do not have a drive problem.

>  I was able to make it work following the instruction of the
>program xcdroast, however, some things seem strange.
>
>I always get error messages telling not to use atapi instead scsi.

Others have said a lot here already, but I want to raise more fundamental 
puzzlement. I didn't know cdrecord (see below) was even able to burn to 
atapi devices under 2.4.x kernels. You might want to report the error 
messages in more detail.

>I had a CD with picture files on. When I copied them to the HD I can't open
>them and copying back to the CD I can't open them as well any longer. In fact
>I can not mount the CD anymore. Only xcdroast can.
>$ mount /mnt/cdrom
>mount: Not a directory

People have pretty much ignored this part of your message, and it's because 
(I think) it lacks any helpful detail. But it really is the heart of your 
inquiry, so you would benefit, I think, from filling in the missing pieces 
for us.

1. What kind of picture files?

2. How did you copy them to the HD? I'd assume you mean you mounted the CD, 
then used cp to transfer them ... but I've been burned before by assuming 
the "obvious" answers to things left out of trouble reports.

3. What application are you using to try to open them? How does it fail? Do 
the pictures display successfully in some other setting (if yes, details, 
please)?

4. How do you copy them back to the CD? (I don't even have a guess about 
this one.)

5. As to your mount problem ... what does the entry in /etc/fstab for 
/mnt/cdrom look like?

>Trying too boot Knoppix 3.4 from the CD I get only a blank screen. Booting
>from CD and then switching to HD, Knoppix works alright.

I didn't see any responses to this one either, probably for the same reason 
as above. I would point out that this is (probably; you don't actually say) 
only a CD-reading issue, unrelated to any xcdroast issues you have. It is 
probably some problem specific to Knoppix CDs, an area where I have no 
experience ... perhaps a Knoppix user here can address this part separate 
from the rest of your query?

>It seems that xcdroast can only write .wav and .iso files?????

xcdroast is just a user interface to other applications that do the actual 
work. The actual writer (on my systems anyway) is cdrecord, and it can 
*write* anything you care to write.

The real issue is whether you can *read* what's written afterwards. The 
normal file types for reading are:

         iso (contains an iso9660 filesystem that can be mounted by any 
kernel that supports that filesystem type, or by any standard version of 
Windows or MacOS); and

         wav (plays in any CD player that can physically read a CD-RW disk 
and any Linux, Windows, or Mac software that knows how to treat a CD drive 
as a music source).

If you are trying to write some other type of file, you might want to tell 
us what it is and how you are trying to read it after it gets written.

>Questions:
>
>Is there a better CD-RW-Drive for Linux than Asus? The shop is willing to
>exxchange.
>
>Are there better programs than xcdroast to R+W and which?


The other standard one is cdrdao. I'm under the impression that it has 
lagged relative to cdrecord, though, so it *probably* is not a solution to 
any of your problems.





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Re: CD-RW-Drive

[Peter H.]

Many thanks to all for the excellent replies, I will come back to it after the 
holidays.

Have a good celebration for the New Year and all

the Best therein. 
-- 
Peter

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Re: CD-RW-Drive

[Peter]

On 
Peter H. <heisspf@skyinet.net> wrote:

> Slackware 10, Kernel 2.4.26
> 
> got myself an Asus Atapi CD-RW-Drive and I am not sure if this was the right
> choice for Linux. I was able to make it work following the instruction of
> the program xcdroast, however, some things seem strange.

> I always get error messages telling not to use atapi instead scsi.
> 
> I had a CD with picture files on. When I copied them to the HD I can't open 
> them and copying back to the CD I can't open them as well any longer. In
> fact I can not mount the CD anymore. Only xcdroast can.

> $ mount /mnt/cdrom
> mount: Not a directory
> 
> Trying too boot Knoppix 3.4 from the CD I get only a blank screen. Booting 
> from CD and then switching to HD, Knoppix works alright.
> 
> It seems that xcdroast can only write .wav and .iso files?????
> 
> Questions:
> 
> Is there a better CD-RW-Drive for Linux than Asus? The shop is willing to 
> exxchange.
> 
> Are there better programs than xcdroast to R+W and which?
> 

The problem got solved, the CD got damaged.

Since xcdroast was not found in Slackware I installed the one from Fedora 2.
Before I tried the program I had checked the CD, I could mount it and see the
files on it. I followed the instructions of xcdroast on what to do with Atapi
drives including putting 'append "/dev/hdc=ide-scsi"' into lilo.conf and run
lilo.
I then copied the folder on the CD to the HD and wrote another folder from the
HD to the CD using xcdroast. After that the CD could not be mounted anymore.
It looks like the CD was roasted by xcdroast. Now I understand the name of the
program.

On the advise of the various replies I installed in slackware k3b from Fedora
2. It looked as if the installation was not right. I went then into the Fedora
box from where either in xcdroast or 3kb a message showed that the CD is
probably defective.

I then downloaded k3b...bz2 installed it in slackware got myself new CDs and
the programs works like a dandy.

What is still puzzling is why a different CD drive would give a blank screen
when Knoppix is run from the CD only. I solved that by running it in expert
mode configuring the monitor.

Many thanks again
-- 
Peter
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