Re: Skype wont't open

Re: Skype wont't open

[Peter]

Hi,

just wanted to report that I opened the dynamic version of Skype in knoppix 
3.7 by going into hard drive and directory where that skype is stored, then 
clicking on skype and it opened flowlessly.

That means to me that the problem is really in slackware.

Should one report it to them and where?

Regards
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Re: Skype wont't open

[Richard Adams]

On Thursday 03 March 2005 09:48, Peter wrote:
> Hi,
>
> just wanted to report that I opened the dynamic version of Skype in knoppix
> 3.7 by going into hard drive and directory where that skype is stored, then
> clicking on skype and it opened flowlessly.

I would advise you to use the Skype ¨echo123¨ test service to see if it works 
properly first before going any further.

> That means to me that the problem is really in slackware.

I doubt its a slackware problem but an incompatablity problem with lib 
versions used by slackware, i would like to hunt down problems like this but 
i just dont have the time thesedays, i have to work for a living again -;) 

skype is reported to work under a default slackware-10 distro on the skype 
site and it does say what you need to do to get it going under slackware, if 
you reasd the mail on the skype site you will see that many people say that 
slackware is the most choosy when it comes to getting skype going.
Just why that is lord knows.

> Should one report it to them and where?
>
> Regards
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Re: Skype wont't open

[Peter H.]

Hi,

Since it is assumed that the problem is in the /X11R6/lib libraries of 
slackware I replaced them with the ones from Fedora 3. It did not change the 
error message:

symbol lookup error: /usr/lib/qt/lib/libqt-mt.so.3: undefined symbol: 
XkbSetPerClientControls

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Re: Skype wont't open

[Richard Adams]

On Saturday 05 March 2005 02:07, Peter H. wrote:
> Hi,
>
> Since it is assumed that the problem is in the /X11R6/lib libraries of
> slackware I replaced them with the ones from Fedora 3. It did not change
> the error message:

Since you seem to be the only slackware user with this particular problem one 
must presume its your system at fault and not slackware.
Installing incompatable system libs is not such a wise thing to do, you will 
break something or other in the process.

> symbol lookup error: /usr/lib/qt/lib/libqt-mt.so.3: undefined symbol:
> XkbSetPerClientControls

If one tryed to insmod a kernel module which depends on another module which 
has not yet been loaded one will get an undefined symbol error, that means 
modules need to be loaded in a certain oder to avoid that problem.
Now loading libs is eachtly the same, define them incorrectly and undefined 
symbols will appier.

I am certain you will get more help from the folks on the skype forums site.

http://forum.skype.com/

>
> Regards
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Re: Skype wont't open

[Peter]

Thanks!

pa3gcu@zeelandnet.nl said:
> Installing incompatable system libs is not such a wise thing to do, you will
> break something or other in the process.

I just moved that /X11R6/lib directory out of the way. Copied the one from 
Fedora over, tried skype, did not work, removed the Fedora lib and moved the 
original slack back. No harm done.

Regards
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Re: Sype wont't open

[Richard Adams]

On Tuesday 01 March 2005 06:50, Peter H. wrote:
> Hi,
>
> in slackware10 trying to open skype a program
> for Internet telephony I get the following error:
>
> relocation error: /usr/lib/qt/lib/libqt-mt.so.3: undefined symbol:
> XkbSetPerClientControls

I did not get confronted with this problem when i tryed skype with 
slackware-10, i found all sorts of problems tho'.

The following URL may well help you;

https://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-list/2004-May/msg04589.html

If that helps then your problems are not over as you will meet many problems 
with skype and slackware-10. I may well be able to help you tho´.

I did manage to get skype started but performance was lousy and to be honest i 
was very dissapointed with it.

I have it running under fedora 3, performance is fine and it was not to much 
hassel to get going.

> and the program aborts.
>
> How to resolve?
>
> Thanks & regards
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Re: Skype wont't open

[Peter]

Thanks,

so when using Skype I will just boot into Fedora 2 instead of Slackware 10.
In Fedora 2 Skype opened and run well as soon as I had a library from Fedora3 
installed. I can't install fedora 3 since the 2nd install disk I got is 
damaged and no replacement yet from the company I bought it.

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Re: Skype wont't open

[Peter]

Is it possible that the kernel has something to do that skype will not open in 
slackware10 instead aborts with:

skype: relocation error: /usr/lib/qt/lib/libqt-mt.so.3: undefined symbol: 
XkbSetPerClientControls

My kernel in slackware10 is 2.4.26 whereas in Fedora2 where skype works 
flawlessly the kernel is 2.6....

What is that anyhow XkbSetPerClientControls ?

Besides having tried the static and dynamic version I tried as well the rpm 
version which I have in Fedora, made a tgz file with rpm2tgz and trying to run 
it I get the identical error message.

Regards

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Re: Skype wont't open

[Ray Olszewski]

At 10:07 AM 3/2/2005 +0800, Peter wrote:
>Is it possible that the kernel has something to do that skype will not 
>open in
>slackware10 instead aborts with:
>
>skype: relocation error: /usr/lib/qt/lib/libqt-mt.so.3: undefined symbol:
>XkbSetPerClientControls
>
>My kernel in slackware10 is 2.4.26 whereas in Fedora2 where skype works
>flawlessly the kernel is 2.6....
>
>What is that anyhow XkbSetPerClientControls ?
>
>Besides having tried the static and dynamic version I tried as well the rpm
>version which I have in Fedora, made a tgz file with rpm2tgz and trying to 
>run
>it I get the identical error message.

This result is somewhat puzzling, especially coming from the static version.

So I did a bit of checking, though, and apparently this message means that 
libqt-mt.so.3 is unable to find one of its symbols. In this case, the 
symbol should resolve to a call to libX11.so, so the problem is likely a 
version incompatibility between the libqt-mt.so.3 you are using and 
Slackware's libX11.so.

Probably the best workaround is to stop using the libqt-mt.so.3 you copied 
over from SuSE and find a version of libqt-mt.so.3 that is compiled for, 
and works with, Slackware 10. Then use the dynamic version of Skype with it.

In any case, it is all but surely not a kernel issue. It is some sort of X 
issue.



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Re: Skype wont't open

[Peter]

> At 10:07 AM 3/2/2005 +0800, Peter wrote:
> >Is it possible that the kernel has something to do that skype will not 
> >open in
> >slackware10 instead aborts with:
> >
> >skype: relocation error: /usr/lib/qt/lib/libqt-mt.so.3: undefined symbol:
> >XkbSetPerClientControls
> >
> >My kernel in slackware10 is 2.4.26 whereas in Fedora2 where skype works
> >flawlessly the kernel is 2.6....
> >
> >What is that anyhow XkbSetPerClientControls ?
> >
> >Besides having tried the static and dynamic version I tried as well the rpm
> >version which I have in Fedora, made a tgz file with rpm2tgz and trying to 
> >run
> >it I get the identical error message.
> 
> This result is somewhat puzzling, especially coming from the static version.

> 
On Tue, 01 Mar 2005 19:00:42 -0800
Ray Olszewski <ray@comarre.com> wrote:

> So I did a bit of checking, though, and apparently this message means that 
> libqt-mt.so.3 is unable to find one of its symbols. In this case, the 
> symbol should resolve to a call to libX11.so, so the problem is likely a 
> version incompatibility between the libqt-mt.so.3 you are using and 
> Slackware's libX11.so.
> 
> Probably the best workaround is to stop using the libqt-mt.so.3 you copied 
> over from SuSE and find a version of libqt-mt.so.3 that is compiled for, 
> and works with, Slackware 10. Then use the dynamic version of Skype with it.
> 
> In any case, it is all but surely not a kernel issue. It is some sort of X 
> issue.

Thanks Ray!

I downloaded and installed the latest qt-3.3.3-i486-3.tgz from slackware.
There is no change, all installed skype won't open,  sames error message.
I checked the libX11 and the latest version is installed.

Regards

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Re: Skype wont't open

[Richard Adams]

On Wednesday 02 March 2005 03:07, Peter wrote:
> Is it possible that the kernel has something to do that skype will not open
> in slackware10 instead aborts with:
>
> skype: relocation error: /usr/lib/qt/lib/libqt-mt.so.3: undefined symbol:
> XkbSetPerClientControls
>
> My kernel in slackware10 is 2.4.26 whereas in Fedora2 where skype works
> flawlessly the kernel is 2.6....
>
> What is that anyhow XkbSetPerClientControls ?
>
> Besides having tried the static and dynamic version I tried as well the rpm
> version which I have in Fedora, made a tgz file with rpm2tgz and trying to
> run it I get the identical error message.

When i searched google for your error message some said it is a bug in qt, 
others say its because one has installed another version of qt and now has 
two versions installed.
I pointed you to an URL which menioned a spesific order of directory´s in the 
file /etc/ld.so.conf. here is what i used on my slack-10 system when i tryed 
skype.

/usr/local/lib
/usr/X11R6/lib
/usr/i486-slackware-linux/lib
/opt/kde/lib
/usr/lib/qt/lib
/usr/lib/xine
/usr/lib
/lib

I noticed in another message of your that what ls -al /usr/lib/qt retured, it 
was different to my origanal slack-10 install, i get;
/usr/lib/qt -> qt-3.3.2

I belive if you installed an rpm from fedora 2 then that could well be your 
problem.

> Regards
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Re: Skype wont't open

[Peter]

Thanks Adam!

My /etc/ld.so.conf is practically the same:

/usr/local/lib
/usr/X11R6/lib
/usr/i486-slackware-linux/lib
/opt/kde/lib
/usr/lib/qt/lib
/usr/local/tmake/lib
/usr/lib
/usr/local/ActiveTcl/lib
/usr/include
/usr/local/lib/sigc++-1.2
/lib

and ls -al /usr/lib/qt
/usr/lib/qt -> qt-3.3.3

After this installation of qt-3.3.3 I did ldconfig.

I have no other version qt installed.

ls /usr/lib/qt*
/usr/lib/qt:
README-QT.TXT  examples    lib      plugins
bin            extensions  mkspecs  tutorial
doc            include     pics

/usr/lib/qt-3.3.3:
README-QT.TXT  examples    lib      plugins
bin            extensions  mkspecs  tutorial
doc            include     pics

Regards
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Re: Skype wont't open

[Richard Adams]

On Wednesday 02 March 2005 08:33, Peter wrote:
> Thanks Adam!

I presume you meant Richard Adams...

> My /etc/ld.so.conf is practically the same:
>
> /usr/local/lib
> /usr/X11R6/lib
> /usr/i486-slackware-linux/lib
> /opt/kde/lib
> /usr/lib/qt/lib

There should be no need to define qt at all as you define /usr/lib, futher 
more its the define order that matters according to others who have the same 
problem as you.

Ray mentioned dependancies that quite possably backs up the need to define 
libs in a spesific order to aviod such problems. 

> /usr/local/tmake/lib
> /usr/lib
> /usr/local/ActiveTcl/lib
> /usr/include
> /usr/local/lib/sigc++-1.2
> /lib
>
> and ls -al /usr/lib/qt
> /usr/lib/qt -> qt-3.3.3

Ok but are you sure qt3.3.2 is deleted,?? 
>
> After this installation of qt-3.3.3 I did ldconfig.
>
> I have no other version qt installed.
>
> ls /usr/lib/qt*
> /usr/lib/qt:
> README-QT.TXT  examples    lib      plugins
> bin            extensions  mkspecs  tutorial
> doc            include     pics
>
> /usr/lib/qt-3.3.3:
> README-QT.TXT  examples    lib      plugins
> bin            extensions  mkspecs  tutorial
> doc            include     pics
>
> Regards
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Re: Skype wont't open

[Peter]

pa3gcu@zeelandnet.nl said:
> I presume you meant Richard Adams...

Actually Richards

pa3gcu@zeelandnet.nl said:
> Ok but are you sure qt3.3.2 is deleted,?? 

heisspf@~:$ locate qt-3.3.2
heisspf@~:$

Not a trace left. Updated daily.

I put this now into ld.so.conf only with no change of the error message after 
doing ldconfig. This is anyhow the sequence put-in by slackware I think.

/usr/local/lib
/usr/X11R6/lib
/usr/i486-slackware-linux/lib
/opt/kde/lib
/usr/lib
/lib

and leaving /usr/lib/qt out I get:

error while loading shared libraries: libqt-mt.so.3: cannot open shared object 
file: No such file or directory


I have the strong suspicion the problem is in those libs in /usr/X11R6/libs.
Are they different from distro to distro?

This is the end of strace dynamic skype:

read(4, "&\0\0\0\1\1\22\t\0\0\0\0\0\0\0\0\0\0\0\0\0\0\1\0\0\0\0"..., 604) = 604
writev(2, [{"./skype", 7}, {": ", 2}, {"symbol lookup error", 19}, {": ", 2}, 
{"./skype", 7}, {": ", 2}, {"undefined symbol: XkbSetPerClien"..., 41}, {"", 
0}, {"", 0}, {"\n", 1}], 10./skype: symbol lookup error: ./skype: undefined 
symbol: XkbSetPerClientControls
) = 81
exit_group(127) 

Regards
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Re: Skype wont't open

[chuck gelm]

Hi, Peter:

  This 'skype' is rather new to me and I only have it working
well using Windows 2000 & Windows XP.  It 'works' with
Slackware v9.1, but the audio is not good.

I am suggesting that you try with a fresh install of
Slackware so that it will not be confused with a 'rpm'
install of libraries from another distribution.

  Skype 'works' for me when invoked from a Xwindow terminal.
My Xwindow environment is Gnome (Slackware v9.1 default).
I guess I installed (or it defaulted to) Skype binary into
/usr/local/bin.  I run Gnome in Xwindows, open a terminal
windows and enter 'skype'.  Viola! it runs.

OBTW, my brother has Skype running on at least one
desktop and one laptop under Slackware.  I'll BC:
him and maybe he can offer some help or hints.
John: This is 'linux-newbie'.
http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html

Are there archives of linux-newbie?

HTH, Chuck


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Re: Skype wont't open

[Richard Adams]

On Thursday 03 March 2005 10:56, Peter wrote:
> pa3gcu@zeelandnet.nl said:
> > I presume you meant Richard Adams...
>
> Actually Richards
>
> pa3gcu@zeelandnet.nl said:
> > Ok but are you sure qt3.3.2 is deleted,??
>
> heisspf@~:$ locate qt-3.3.2
> heisspf@~:$
>
> Not a trace left. Updated daily.
>
> I put this now into ld.so.conf only with no change of the error message
> after doing ldconfig. This is anyhow the sequence put-in by slackware I
> think.
>
> /usr/local/lib
> /usr/X11R6/lib
> /usr/i486-slackware-linux/lib
> /opt/kde/lib
> /usr/lib
> /lib
>
> and leaving /usr/lib/qt out I get:
>
> error while loading shared libraries: libqt-mt.so.3: cannot open shared
> object file: No such file or directory

I was seemingly missleading on saying that /usr/lib should have been enought, 
iḿ sorry to say but i seem to be wrong.

It is defined here as

/usr/lib/qt/lib
Once again i have qt-3.3.2.
I have tryed skype on another box with a clean slack-10 install and i do not 
get that message.

Anyway like i mentioned slackware-10 and skype do not really like each other, 
even if skype starts you need to tune things a lot to get it to even think of 
working.


>
> I have the strong suspicion the problem is in those libs in
> /usr/X11R6/libs. Are they different from distro to distro?
>
> This is the end of strace dynamic skype:
>
> read(4, "&\0\0\0\1\1\22\t\0\0\0\0\0\0\0\0\0\0\0\0\0\0\1\0\0\0\0"..., 604) =
> 604 writev(2, [{"./skype", 7}, {": ", 2}, {"symbol lookup error", 19}, {":
> ", 2}, {"./skype", 7}, {": ", 2}, {"undefined symbol: XkbSetPerClien"...,
> 41}, {"", 0}, {"", 0}, {"\n", 1}], 10./skype: symbol lookup error: ./skype:
> undefined symbol: XkbSetPerClientControls
> ) = 81
> exit_group(127)


I am quite sure someone on the skype site mailing list(s) would appricate that 
as a problem report Peter.
All it says to me is that an undefined symbol was discoverd-;)


>
> Regards
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Sype wont't open

[Peter H.]

Hi,

in slackware10 trying to open skype a program
for Internet telephony I get the following error:

relocation error: /usr/lib/qt/lib/libqt-mt.so.3: undefined symbol: 
XkbSetPerClientControls

and the program aborts.

How to resolve?

Thanks & regards
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Re: Sype wont't open

[Ray Olszewski]

At 01:50 PM 3/1/2005 +0800, Peter H. wrote:
>Hi,
>
>in slackware10 trying to open skype a program
>for Internet telephony I get the following error:
>
>relocation error: /usr/lib/qt/lib/libqt-mt.so.3: undefined symbol:
>XkbSetPerClientControls
>
>and the program aborts.
>
>How to resolve?
>
>Thanks & regards

Probably by getting a newer version of libqt-mt.so.3 . An undefined symbol 
usually means you have an older version of a library than the app was 
compiled against. (If you have the library's -dev package installed ... or 
whatever Slackware calls the packages with the headers files for various 
libraries ... you could check the headers for this function call, as a way 
of confirming my guess.)

In Debian-Sid, the current version of this package is 3.2.3-4 . The 
installed copy I have on a system here is timestamped last July, but I 
doubt my version is the current package. The Skype site says you need at 
least version 3.2 of this library.

I'm guessing that you got Skype from the Skype site, not as part of 
Slackware, probably the dynamic binary the site offers for download. The 
Skype site does also  list a version that has QT 3.2 compiled statically. I 
imagine that includes the libqt-mt part, so using that might be an 
effective workaround.

PS - Just to avoid misunderstanding ... libqt-mt.so.3 is normally a 
symlink, to something like this:

         /usr/lib/libqt-mt.so.3 -> libqt-mt.so.3.2.3

  You need to check the underlying library it is a symlink to to determine 
the version.


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Re: Skype wont't open

[Peter]

Thanks Ray

> At 01:50 PM 3/1/2005 +0800, Peter H. wrote:
> >Hi,
> >
> >in slackware10 trying to open skype a program
> >for Internet telephony I get the following error:
> >
> >relocation error: /usr/lib/qt/lib/libqt-mt.so.3: undefined symbol:
> >XkbSetPerClientControls
> >
> >and the program aborts.
> >
> >How to resolve?
> >
> >Thanks & regards

On Mon, 28 Feb 2005 22:21:39 -0800
Ray Olszewski <ray@comarre.com> wrote:
> 
> Probably by getting a newer version of libqt-mt.so.3 . An undefined symbol 
> usually means you have an older version of a library than the app was 
> compiled against. (If you have the library's -dev package installed ... or 
> whatever Slackware calls the packages with the headers files for various 
> libraries ... you could check the headers for this function call, as a way 
> of confirming my guess.)
> 
> In Debian-Sid, the current version of this package is 3.2.3-4 . The 
> installed copy I have on a system here is timestamped last July, but I 
> doubt my version is the current package. The Skype site says you need at 
> least version 3.2 of this library.

The version I have is 3.3.2 which I took from a Fedora 3 CD. In Fedora 2
Skype opens with this version which I copied to slackware.

> 
> I'm guessing that you got Skype from the Skype site, not as part of 
> Slackware, probably the dynamic binary the site offers for download. The 
> Skype site does also  list a version that has QT 3.2 compiled statically. I 
> imagine that includes the libqt-mt part, so using that might be an 
> effective workaround.

I tried both the dynamic and static version and I am getting the same error.

::$ ls -l  /usr/lib/qt/lib/libqt-mt.so.3
lrwxrwxrwx  1 root root 17 2004-10-29 09:24 /usr/lib/qt/lib/libqt-mt.so.3 ->
libqt-mt.so.3.3.2

> PS - Just to avoid misunderstanding ... libqt-mt.so.3 is normally a 
> symlink, to something like this:
> 
>          /usr/lib/libqt-mt.so.3 -> libqt-mt.so.3.2.3
> 
>   You need to check the underlying library it is a symlink to to determine 
> the version.
> 



-- 
Peter

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