Not able to install Redhat 8.0 - Network Card is 3c515

Not able to install Redhat 8.0 - Network Card is 3c515

[Ronald Hahm]

I am trying to install RedHat 8.0 on a Pentium 100 Mhz machine.  So far
I am not having too good of luck.  Here are the specs of the machine.

Zeos Pantera
Pentium 100
BusLogic SCSI Card
NEC SCSI CDROM
2.5 Maxtor IDE drive
32 MB RAM
3c515 Ethernet Card (2)

I am having problems with the installation when it needs a driver disk.
If I try to do a network installation it needs a driver disk for the
3c515 ethernet card.

These are the errors messages that I get during the installation.

"Failed to mount driver disk."
"The floppy disk you inserted is not a valid driver disk for this
release of Red Hat Linux."

Can someone get me feedback or a workaround as to how I can get Red Hat
8.0 installed on this machine?

Thanks.



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RE: Not able to install Redhat 8.0 - Network Card is 3c515

[james miller]

Ronald:

This response may not be quite what you're looking for, but then again, maybe 
it will be helpful. The system you describe is what I would think of as a 
"survpc", i.e., an outdated computer that won't efficiently run alot of newer 
software or OS's. Maybe you're using it to sort of "test the (Linux) waters", 
and don't intend to do much productive with it. If so, you may be able to get 
the latest Red Hat to install on it, though I'd guess you'll have to do some 
tweaking, as you seem to have discovered already. I'm not sure about the 
network card problems you're having and how to resolve them, but another issue 
you'll likely confront is the need to set up a swap partition right away 
because of low memory. The RH install routine probably does this for you more 
or less automatically. However, if you're intending to really use this machine 
for useful things, the latest RH may not be the best way to go. For one thing, 
it probably requires a minimum of something like 1.5 GB of disk space: if your 
machine's HD is contemporaneous with the rest of its hardware, you may not 
have enough disk space to install RH. Even if you do, there may be very little 
space left over for furthe enhancements. I've been through this attempt to 
install more modern distros on older hardware pretty extensively recently: it 
can be a real headache. All this is to conclude by saying that there are 
distributions that are much more effective for older hardware than the latest 
RH, and ones that can give you a quite useful system that functions with 
reasonable speed, in about 300-500 MB and with the other hardware you have. If 
you need further information on which distro(s) I'm talking about, just let me 
know and I'll be glad to provide it.

James

>===== Original Message From "Ronald Hahm" <hahmr@myrealbox.com> =====
>I am trying to install RedHat 8.0 on a Pentium 100 Mhz machine.  So far
>I am not having too good of luck.  Here are the specs of the machine.
>
>Zeos Pantera
>Pentium 100
>BusLogic SCSI Card
>NEC SCSI CDROM
>2.5 Maxtor IDE drive
>32 MB RAM
>3c515 Ethernet Card (2)
>
>I am having problems with the installation when it needs a driver disk.
>If I try to do a network installation it needs a driver disk for the
>3c515 ethernet card.
>
>These are the errors messages that I get during the installation.
>
>"Failed to mount driver disk."
>"The floppy disk you inserted is not a valid driver disk for this
>release of Red Hat Linux."
>
>Can someone get me feedback or a workaround as to how I can get Red Hat
>8.0 installed on this machine?
>
>Thanks.
>
>
>
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RE: Not able to install Redhat 8.0 - Network Card is 3c515

[james miller]

Ronald:

This response may not be quite what you're looking for, but then again, maybe 
it will be helpful. The system you describe is what I would think of as a 
"survpc", i.e., an outdated computer that won't efficiently run alot of newer 
software or OS's. Maybe you're using it to sort of "test the (Linux) waters", 
and don't intend to do much productive with it. If so, you may be able to get 
the latest Red Hat to install on it, though I'd guess you'll have to do some 
tweaking, as you seem to have discovered already. I'm not sure about the 
network card problems you're having and how to resolve them, but another issue 
you'll likely confront is the need to set up a swap partition right away 
because of low memory. The RH install routine probably does this for you more 
or less automatically. However, if you're intending to really use this machine 
for useful things, the latest RH may not be the best way to go. For one thing, 
it probably requires a minimum of something like 1.5 GB of disk space: if your 
machine's HD is contemporaneous with the rest of its hardware, you may not 
have enough disk space to install RH. Even if you do, there may be very little 
space left over for furthe enhancements. I've been through this attempt to 
install more modern distros on older hardware pretty extensively recently: it 
can be a real headache. All this is to conclude by saying that there are 
distributions that are much more effective for older hardware than the latest 
RH, and ones that can give you a quite useful system that functions with 
reasonable speed, in about 300-500 MB and with the other hardware you have. If 
you need further information on which distro(s) I'm talking about, just let me 
know and I'll be glad to provide it.

James

>===== Original Message From "Ronald Hahm" <hahmr@myrealbox.com> =====
>I am trying to install RedHat 8.0 on a Pentium 100 Mhz machine.  So far
>I am not having too good of luck.  Here are the specs of the machine.
>
>Zeos Pantera
>Pentium 100
>BusLogic SCSI Card
>NEC SCSI CDROM
>2.5 Maxtor IDE drive
>32 MB RAM
>3c515 Ethernet Card (2)
>
>I am having problems with the installation when it needs a driver disk.
>If I try to do a network installation it needs a driver disk for the
>3c515 ethernet card.
>
>These are the errors messages that I get during the installation.
>
>"Failed to mount driver disk."
>"The floppy disk you inserted is not a valid driver disk for this
>release of Red Hat Linux."
>
>Can someone get me feedback or a workaround as to how I can get Red Hat
>8.0 installed on this machine?
>
>Thanks.
>
>
>
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RE: Not able to install Redhat 8.0 - Network Card is 3c515

[james miller]

Ronald:

This response may not be quite what you're looking for, but then again, maybe 
it will be helpful. The system you describe is what I would think of as a 
"survpc", i.e., an outdated computer that won't efficiently run alot of newer 
software or OS's. Maybe you're using it to sort of "test the (Linux) waters", 
and don't intend to do much productive with it. If so, you may be able to get 
the latest Red Hat to install on it, though I'd guess you'll have to do some 
tweaking, as you seem to have discovered already. I'm not sure about the 
network card problems you're having and how to resolve them, but another issue 
you'll likely confront is the need to set up a swap partition right away 
because of low memory. The RH install routine probably does this for you more 
or less automatically. However, if you're intending to really use this machine 
for useful things, the latest RH may not be the best way to go. For one thing, 
it probably requires a minimum of something like 1.5 GB of disk space: if your 
machine's HD is contemporaneous with the rest of its hardware, you may not 
have enough disk space to install RH. Even if you do, there may be very little 
space left over for furthe enhancements. I've been through this attempt to 
install more modern distros on older hardware pretty extensively recently: it 
can be a real headache. All this is to conclude by saying that there are 
distributions that are much more effective for older hardware than the latest 
RH, and ones that can give you a quite useful system that functions with 
reasonable speed, in about 300-500 MB and with the other hardware you have. If 
you need further information on which distro(s) I'm talking about, just let me 
know and I'll be glad to provide it.

James

>===== Original Message From "Ronald Hahm" <hahmr@myrealbox.com> =====
>I am trying to install RedHat 8.0 on a Pentium 100 Mhz machine.  So far
>I am not having too good of luck.  Here are the specs of the machine.
>
>Zeos Pantera
>Pentium 100
>BusLogic SCSI Card
>NEC SCSI CDROM
>2.5 Maxtor IDE drive
>32 MB RAM
>3c515 Ethernet Card (2)
>
>I am having problems with the installation when it needs a driver disk.
>If I try to do a network installation it needs a driver disk for the
>3c515 ethernet card.
>
>These are the errors messages that I get during the installation.
>
>"Failed to mount driver disk."
>"The floppy disk you inserted is not a valid driver disk for this
>release of Red Hat Linux."
>
>Can someone get me feedback or a workaround as to how I can get Red Hat
>8.0 installed on this machine?
>
>Thanks.
>
>
>
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Re: Not able to install Redhat 8.0 - Network Card is 3c515

[Ray Olszewski]

You don't really tell us enough to get a good answer. Assuming you are 
using floppies to install, and you get the error messages when you are 
prompted by the installer to switch disks to a drivers disk (or a set of 
them), then the obvious possibilities are:

1. The disk is bad. Try making another disk, and be sure to use a floppy 
that has no bad sectors.

2. The floppy drive is bad (either the one in this machine or the one in 
the machine you are making the disks on). Try a different drive.

3. The procedure is bad. Since you don't say how you are making the disk 
(not even what OS the system making the disk runs), I can't really offer 
anything specific here, just a suggestion that you review your procedure 
against the instructions.

4. The install is bad. That is, you are changing disks at the wrong time, 
or not putting the disk in far enough, or something of that sort. Again, 
review your procedure.

All of this assumes that you are installing from floppies. If you are not 
... well, that itself indicaes how vague your description is.

If you post a followup, be sure to include a description of what you are 
doing when the errors occur, including the installer prompts that precede them.

At 09:39 AM 1/5/03 -0600, Ronald Hahm wrote:

>I am trying to install RedHat 8.0 on a Pentium 100 Mhz machine.  So far
>I am not having too good of luck.  Here are the specs of the machine.
>
>Zeos Pantera
>Pentium 100
>BusLogic SCSI Card
>NEC SCSI CDROM
>2.5 Maxtor IDE drive
>32 MB RAM
>3c515 Ethernet Card (2)
>
>I am having problems with the installation when it needs a driver disk.
>If I try to do a network installation it needs a driver disk for the
>3c515 ethernet card.
>
>These are the errors messages that I get during the installation.
>
>"Failed to mount driver disk."
>"The floppy disk you inserted is not a valid driver disk for this
>release of Red Hat Linux."
>
>Can someone get me feedback or a workaround as to how I can get Red Hat
>8.0 installed on this machine?




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Palo Alto, California, USA			  ray@comarre.com
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RE: Not able to install Redhat 8.0 - Network Card is 3c515

[Ronald Hahm]

1.  I think the driver disk is good.  I took the disk and mounted on
another linux box I have and I was able to read the contents and the
file in vi.

2. This might be a possibility, but I am not too sure if it is likely.
I am able to boot the installation program with the boot disk that I had
created.  Since I am able to boot the RedHat installation program I
think that the floppy drive is working correctly. 

3. I created the driver disk using rawrite on a Windows XP machine.
This is the same procedure that I used to create the boot disk.

This is all from floppy disks.  I am merely following the prompts that
are occuring from the RedHat Installation program.  When it tells me to
put the driver disk in, I put it in.



-----Original Message-----
From: linux-newbie-owner@vger.kernel.org
[mailto:linux-newbie-owner@vger.kernel.org] On Behalf Of Ray Olszewski
Sent: Sunday, January 05, 2003 10:41 AM
To: linux-newbie@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: Not able to install Redhat 8.0 - Network Card is 3c515


You don't really tell us enough to get a good answer. Assuming you are 
using floppies to install, and you get the error messages when you are 
prompted by the installer to switch disks to a drivers disk (or a set of

them), then the obvious possibilities are:

1. The disk is bad. Try making another disk, and be sure to use a floppy

that has no bad sectors.

2. The floppy drive is bad (either the one in this machine or the one in

the machine you are making the disks on). Try a different drive.

3. The procedure is bad. Since you don't say how you are making the disk

(not even what OS the system making the disk runs), I can't really offer

anything specific here, just a suggestion that you review your procedure

against the instructions.

4. The install is bad. That is, you are changing disks at the wrong
time, 
or not putting the disk in far enough, or something of that sort. Again,

review your procedure.

All of this assumes that you are installing from floppies. If you are
not 
... well, that itself indicaes how vague your description is.

If you post a followup, be sure to include a description of what you are

doing when the errors occur, including the installer prompts that
precede them.

At 09:39 AM 1/5/03 -0600, Ronald Hahm wrote:

>I am trying to install RedHat 8.0 on a Pentium 100 Mhz machine.  So far

>I am not having too good of luck.  Here are the specs of the machine.
>
>Zeos Pantera
>Pentium 100
>BusLogic SCSI Card
>NEC SCSI CDROM
>2.5 Maxtor IDE drive
>32 MB RAM
>3c515 Ethernet Card (2)
>
>I am having problems with the installation when it needs a driver disk.

>If I try to do a network installation it needs a driver disk for the 
>3c515 ethernet card.
>
>These are the errors messages that I get during the installation.
>
>"Failed to mount driver disk."
>"The floppy disk you inserted is not a valid driver disk for this 
>release of Red Hat Linux."
>
>Can someone get me feedback or a workaround as to how I can get Red Hat

>8.0 installed on this machine?




--
-------------------------------------------"Never tell me the
odds!"--------
Ray Olszewski					-- Han Solo
Palo Alto, California, USA			  ray@comarre.com
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RE: Not able to install Redhat 8.0 - Network Card is 3c515

[Ray Olszewski]

Sorry my advice was so useless. Perhaps someone here who had done a similar 
install (I haven't; my advice was based on less specific experience with 
installers) will recognize in what you wrote a specific problem he or she 
can help you with. Good luck.

At 02:01 PM 1/5/03 -0600, Ronald Hahm wrote:

>1.  I think the driver disk is good.  I took the disk and mounted on
>another linux box I have and I was able to read the contents and the
>file in vi.
>
>2. This might be a possibility, but I am not too sure if it is likely.
>I am able to boot the installation program with the boot disk that I had
>created.  Since I am able to boot the RedHat installation program I
>think that the floppy drive is working correctly.
>
>3. I created the driver disk using rawrite on a Windows XP machine.
>This is the same procedure that I used to create the boot disk.
>
>This is all from floppy disks.  I am merely following the prompts that
>are occuring from the RedHat Installation program.  When it tells me to
>put the driver disk in, I put it in.
>
>
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: linux-newbie-owner@vger.kernel.org
>[mailto:linux-newbie-owner@vger.kernel.org] On Behalf Of Ray Olszewski
>Sent: Sunday, January 05, 2003 10:41 AM
>To: linux-newbie@vger.kernel.org
>Subject: Re: Not able to install Redhat 8.0 - Network Card is 3c515
>
>
>You don't really tell us enough to get a good answer. Assuming you are
>using floppies to install, and you get the error messages when you are
>prompted by the installer to switch disks to a drivers disk (or a set of
>
>them), then the obvious possibilities are:
>
>1. The disk is bad. Try making another disk, and be sure to use a floppy
>
>that has no bad sectors.
>
>2. The floppy drive is bad (either the one in this machine or the one in
>
>the machine you are making the disks on). Try a different drive.
>
>3. The procedure is bad. Since you don't say how you are making the disk
>
>(not even what OS the system making the disk runs), I can't really offer
>
>anything specific here, just a suggestion that you review your procedure
>
>against the instructions.
>
>4. The install is bad. That is, you are changing disks at the wrong
>time,
>or not putting the disk in far enough, or something of that sort. Again,
>
>review your procedure.
>
>All of this assumes that you are installing from floppies. If you are
>not
>... well, that itself indicaes how vague your description is.
>
>If you post a followup, be sure to include a description of what you are
>
>doing when the errors occur, including the installer prompts that
>precede them.
>
>At 09:39 AM 1/5/03 -0600, Ronald Hahm wrote:
>
> >I am trying to install RedHat 8.0 on a Pentium 100 Mhz machine.  So far
>
> >I am not having too good of luck.  Here are the specs of the machine.
> >
> >Zeos Pantera
> >Pentium 100
> >BusLogic SCSI Card
> >NEC SCSI CDROM
> >2.5 Maxtor IDE drive
> >32 MB RAM
> >3c515 Ethernet Card (2)
> >
> >I am having problems with the installation when it needs a driver disk.
>
> >If I try to do a network installation it needs a driver disk for the
> >3c515 ethernet card.
> >
> >These are the errors messages that I get during the installation.
> >
> >"Failed to mount driver disk."
> >"The floppy disk you inserted is not a valid driver disk for this
> >release of Red Hat Linux."
> >
> >Can someone get me feedback or a workaround as to how I can get Red Hat
>
> >8.0 installed on this machine?




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-------------------------------------------"Never tell me the odds!"--------
Ray Olszewski					-- Han Solo
Palo Alto, California, USA			  ray@comarre.com
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