Re: Lilo and NT-Safeguard -NO Diskdrive available on Toshiba!-2

[Oliver Ob <ob_ok@gmx.net>]

Riley Williams :
> 
> Hi Oliver.

Hi Riley, sorry, we better both calm down. But please understand my
situation. I am fumbling with this shit without success since 6 months
already. So bare with my temperament and dont take it too serious :-)

> > There is some problem here. I had been using my machine dualbooting
> > with Lilo for NT and Linux. Worked like a charme. Lilo resided in
> > the mbr and it worked.
> >
> > But now the NT uses SAFEGUARD and that thing sits in the mbr for the
> > pre-boot-password-authentication. So for all of you who do not know
> > SG yet: It starts booting ONLY if you entered the correct pw.
> >
> > I have not done this before and ask for your advice:
> >
> > *** AGAIN, STOP WASTING MY AND YOU TIME WITH IDEAS TO MODIFY THE NT
> > LOADER! I SAID A MILLION TIMES WHY I CANNOT CHANGE THAT !!! ****
> > Thanks.
> 
> If you're not willing to read the replies you get, then stop wasting OUR
> time asking for information you then ignore !!!
No, I read and tried.
Secondly, do not take that too personal, I received more answers than
you can think of (in private mail), and 90% of them were telling me to
change the NTloader, just like the howto says :-((
 
> To quote your comment above, you said "Lilo resided in the mbr" and THAT
> is the problem that stops SafeGuard from working. As I stated in my
> previous reply, you need to move Lilo out of the mbr and into the boot
> sector of the LINUX partition - NOT the NT partition as you claim in
> your comments. When you've done so, you change the partition table
> (which is NOT part of the MBR and is also NOT part of the NT loader)
> to indicate that the active partition is the Linux one.
> 
> > How can I continue using LILO for NT/Linux dualboot *when I need to
> > make NT believe the orignal ("safeguarded") NT-Bootsector in the
> > mbr, but want to use lilo in the mbr ACTUALLY
> 
> Why do you want to put lilo in the MBR ??? Why not just give safeguard
> what it wants in the first place?
Because to my understanding any booting system on earth needs his mbr,
or am I wrong here? How would a system without mbr boot at all?
Teach me if I am wrong here! I want to learn!
 
> > I put it like this: I NEED lilo in the mbr...
> 
> Why? I've never put lilo in the MBR and have many systems happily dual
> booting Linux and Windows, so it can't be for that. I even have one
> system that is quad-booting Linux, Windows XP, OS2 Warp and MS-DOS and
> did it precicely this way.

Alright, this is a good point to ask: What THEN have _you_ got in your mbr?

I currently have the data from win98 inside my mbr.
Must I zero it out? 

If I put the Safeguard-mbr back to my drive, it boots
NT without even booting Lilo on hda2 even THOUGH I have activated hda2
as booting partition. So please, Riley, what have you in your mbr when
you say you are multibooting all those above systems with a lilo in a
primary partition (hda1 hda2 hda3 or hda4)?

Please include also a list of your partitions using fdisk -l to help
my understanding. I want to get to know this!

> > ...but can only boot with SAFEGUARD. So how can I tell lilo to run
> > the SAFEGUARD sector, which I have here in a file (512 bytes) ?
> 
> That's easy enough, but if you do it that way, it won't work as the
> safeguard sector is sensitive to its position on the hard drive.
Do you use safeguard ?
 
> Best wishes from Riley.

Best wishes back and bare with my 6-month-agony-temperament...

Olli

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