X servers for windows

X servers for windows

[Chris Rose]

I know, it's a bit offtopic, but, well, the monitor on my linux box 
(webserver, yada yada...) sucks ass, and needs replacing.  The way i see 
it, an x-server for my windows box would probably be cheaper, and allow 
me to keep using the development tools on the linux box easily.  So, can 
anyone here suggest a good x server for windows, specifically one that 
supports the render extension, because the one i have at present 
(x-win32 5.3) doesn't do so.

Tips are not only welcome, but actively solicited, and would be rewarded 
if it weren't for the fact that i'm damned poor (hence the unreplaced 
monitor :)

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Re: X servers for windows

[Ray Olszewski]

At 11:32 PM 6/22/2003 -0600, Chris Rose wrote:
>I know, it's a bit offtopic, but, well, the monitor on my linux box 
>(webserver, yada yada...) sucks ass, and needs replacing.  The way i see 
>it, an x-server for my windows box would probably be cheaper, and allow me 
>to keep using the development tools on the linux box easily.  So, can 
>anyone here suggest a good x server for windows, specifically one that 
>supports the render extension, because the one i have at present (x-win32 
>5.3) doesn't do so.
>
>Tips are not only welcome, but actively solicited, and would be rewarded 
>if it weren't for the fact that i'm damned poor (hence the unreplaced 
>monitor :)

I don't have the Windows expertise to suggest a good X-server for it 
(especially not a good *and* free one, since I assume the poverty you 
mention would make a sizeable license fee a problem ... or am I assuming 
too much poverty here, since x-win32 5.3 seems to have a $US225 single-node 
license?). But have you considered VNC as a way to operate your Linux box 
remotely from a Windows workstation?

BTW, I routinely access my Linux hosts (traditional servers and a 
development workstation) from a Windows console, just using ssh sessions. 
That approach covers most of what I need to do on them. I've used VNC and 
been happy with it ... what stops me from working completely remotely is 
that there is no way to run XVideo remotely.

BTW, a naive Google search ("WIndows X-server free") does turn up a few 
matches, but no true freeware that I saw (just shareware and evaluation 
copies of commercial servers, with $US90 the lowest license fee I found, 
more than the cost here of a new 17" monitor). It did report a few 
references in e-mail messages to free X servers from Cygnus and one other 
company, but they were very old messages (1998-2000) and I believe the 
products they referenced vanished from general distribution years ago.



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Re: X servers for windows

[Chris Rose]

 > I don't have the Windows expertise to suggest a good X-server for it
 > (especially not a good *and* free one, since I assume the poverty you
 > mention would make a sizeable license fee a problem ... or am I assuming
 > too much poverty here, since x-win32 5.3 seems to have a $US225
 > single-node license?). But have you considered VNC as a way to operate
 > your Linux box remotely from a Windows workstation?


 > BTW, I routinely access my Linux hosts (traditional servers and a
 > development workstation) from a Windows console, just using ssh
 > sessions. That approach covers most of what I need to do on them. I've
 > used VNC and been happy with it ... what stops me from working
 > completely remotely is that there is no way to run XVideo remotely.


 > BTW, a naive Google search ("WIndows X-server free") does turn up a few
 > matches, but no true freeware that I saw (just shareware and evaluation
 > copies of commercial servers, with $US90 the lowest license fee I found,
 > more than the cost here of a new 17" monitor). It did report a few
 > references in e-mail messages to free X servers from Cygnus and one
 > other company, but they were very old messages (1998-2000) and I believe
 > the products they referenced vanished from general distribution years 
ago.

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Ray Olszewski wrote:

> I don't have the Windows expertise to suggest a good X-server for it 
> (especially not a good *and* free one, since I assume the poverty you 
> mention would make a sizeable license fee a problem ... or am I assuming 
> too much poverty here, since x-win32 5.3 seems to have a $US225 
> single-node license?). But have you considered VNC as a way to operate 
> your Linux box remotely from a Windows workstation?

Actually, the academic license is nice for x-win, although it was steep 
(thank heck for student loans!)

> BTW, I routinely access my Linux hosts (traditional servers and a 
> development workstation) from a Windows console, just using ssh 
> sessions. That approach covers most of what I need to do on them. I've 
> used VNC and been happy with it ... what stops me from working 
> completely remotely is that there is no way to run XVideo remotely.

Yeah, i do that for most things as well, and it's been a great spur to 
learning more of the shell stuff that as a longtime windows user, i tend 
to shy away from.  This mailing list has been another huge help in that 
area, especially since you personally seem to have an answer for just 
about everyone :)

> BTW, a naive Google search ("WIndows X-server free") does turn up a few 
> matches, but no true freeware that I saw (just shareware and evaluation 
> copies of commercial servers, with $US90 the lowest license fee I found, 
> more than the cost here of a new 17" monitor). It did report a few 
> references in e-mail messages to free X servers from Cygnus and one 
> other company, but they were very old messages (1998-2000) and I believe 
> the products they referenced vanished from general distribution years ago.

Yeah, i've done that, and i found more or less the same thing. 
Specifically, though, i was looking for that one feature - the RENDER 
extension, which the version of X-Win32 i have doesn't support, and 
since i'm looking at remote access in the school year to come that 
bandwidth-saver is a big deal to me.

I'm hoping that some solution exists that won't totally break my bank, 
and of course i'd prefer free, but if need be i can kick out for another 
prog.  The thing is, i had seen that "RENDER extension not supported" so 
many times and not realized what it was, until recently - and now that i 
know, the fact that the tool exists and doesn't work for me is going to 
drive me slowly batty :)

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RE: X servers for windows

[Riley Williams]

Hi Chris.

 > I know, it's a bit off topic, but, well, the monitor on my
 > Linux box (web server, yada yada...) sucks ass, and needs
 > replacing. The way I see it, an x-server for my windows box
 > would probably be cheaper, and allow me to keep using the
 > development tools on the Linux box easily. So, can anyone
 > here suggest a good x server for windows, specifically one
 > that supports the render extension, because the one I have
 > at present (x-win32 5.3) doesn't do so.
 >
 > Tips are not only welcome, but actively solicited, and would
 > be rewarded if it weren't for the fact that I'm damned poor
 > (hence the unreplaced monitor :)

Probably the easiest option for you would be one of those
switch-boxes that allow you to use one monitor with multiple
computers. I use one here which I obtained whilst a student at
Aberdeen University for £10 and I'm still using it. This one is
a four-way one that switches keyboard, mouse and screen at the
same time, and I currently have three ways used, with the fourth
available for when others bring their computers round for me to
fix for them.

In general, they turn up at the various computer fairs that
appear every so often, usually around the £10 mark, but very
rarely turn up in normal computer shops.

Best wishes from Riley.
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Re: X servers for windows

[Chris Rose]

Not really what i had in mind, given that the reason i hope to find one 
that implements that render extension is for the sole purpose of 
reducing bandwidth costs for remote use :)

And i have a KVM swtich, already.  Although it's a piece of crap too :)

Riley Williams wrote:

> Probably the easiest option for you would be one of those
> switch-boxes that allow you to use one monitor with multiple
> computers. I use one here which I obtained whilst a student at
> Aberdeen University for £10 and I'm still using it. This one is
> a four-way one that switches keyboard, mouse and screen at the
> same time, and I currently have three ways used, with the fourth
> available for when others bring their computers round for me to
> fix for them.
> 
> In general, they turn up at the various computer fairs that
> appear every so often, usually around the £10 mark, but very
> rarely turn up in normal computer shops.
> 
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