Linux 0.99.15 (historycal question)

Linux 0.99.15 (historycal question)

[caszonyi]

Hi

Does anybody on this list knows which is the maximum size of a harddrive
that linux 0.99.15 can boot on ?

Thanks

Bye
Calin

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Re: Linux 0.99.15 (historycal question)

[pa3gcu]

On Sunday 21 March 2004 22:11, caszonyi@rdslink.ro wrote:
> Hi
>
> Does anybody on this list knows which is the maximum size of a harddrive
> that linux 0.99.15 can boot on ?

No idea, however one rule of thumb must be, BIOS support, if the bios supports 
30G drives then that will possably be your limit.

Did we have such drives back then what would it be 1993 +/-
I doubt it, never really though of it really.

> Thanks
>
> Bye
> Calin
>

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Re: Linux 0.99.15 (historycal question)

[Ray Olszewski]

At 05:27 PM 3/22/2004 +0100, pa3gcu wrote:
>On Sunday 21 March 2004 22:11, caszonyi@rdslink.ro wrote:
> > Hi
> >
> > Does anybody on this list knows which is the maximum size of a harddrive
> > that linux 0.99.15 can boot on ?
>
>No idea, however one rule of thumb must be, BIOS support, if the bios 
>supports
>30G drives then that will possably be your limit.
>
>Did we have such drives back then what would it be 1993 +/-
>I doubt it, never really though of it really.


The oldest Linux I could find here to check was a Yggdrasil distro from 
1994, and even that had the 1.1 linux kernel. (I believe an older version 
of Yggdrasil used 0.99, but I lost that long ago .. and I never could get 
it running, so I suppose that, in a sense, my answer to your question is "0 
MB".) It spends a lot of time discussing minimum partiion sizes but not 
maximum ones. My memory is that 512 MB drives were the common high-end 
drives around 1994, and 2 GB or so was the absolute maximum one could find 
to buy.

In any case, what will limit you is, most likely, not Linux itself, but 
either LILO or fdisk. Old versions of LILO will be subject to the 
1024-cylinder limit, requiring that you place a small /dev/hda1 partition 
on the drive and use it as /boot .

Over the years, I've run into limits on the size of a drive that fdisk (or 
cfdisk) can recognize. Newer versions always fix the problem, but 
1994-vintage systems are unlikely to have library support for these newer 
versions, and they will impose a limit on what size drives you can partition.

Finally, the maximum partition (not drive) size has increased over time. I 
**think** the linux 1.1.x kernel has a 2 GB filesystem limit (for ext2).

Linux itself does not use the BIOS to determine drive size. As long as the 
/boot partition (actually, the kernel image itself) is in a place on the 
drive that the BIOS can find, LILO should be able to boot the kernel.



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Re: Linux 0.99.15 (historycal question)

[caszonyi]

On Mon, 22 Mar 2004, Ray Olszewski wrote:

> At 05:27 PM 3/22/2004 +0100, pa3gcu wrote:
> >On Sunday 21 March 2004 22:11, caszonyi@rdslink.ro wrote:
> > > Hi
> > >
> > > Does anybody on this list knows which is the maximum size of a harddrive
> > > that linux 0.99.15 can boot on ?
> >
> >No idea, however one rule of thumb must be, BIOS support, if the bios
> >supports
> >30G drives then that will possably be your limit.
> >
> >Did we have such drives back then what would it be 1993 +/-
> >I doubt it, never really though of it really.
>
>

First of all thanks to all for the reply

> The oldest Linux I could find here to check was a Yggdrasil distro from
> 1994, and even that had the 1.1 linux kernel. (I believe an older version
> of Yggdrasil used 0.99, but I lost that long ago .. and I never could get
> it running, so I suppose that, in a sense, my answer to your question is "0
> MB".) It spends a lot of time discussing minimum partiion sizes but not
> maximum ones. My memory is that 512 MB drives were the common high-end
> drives around 1994, and 2 GB or so was the absolute maximum one could find
> to buy.
>

I found a site http://linux.ka.nu/ which has slackware 1.1.2 and i thought
to give it a try on my 486 machine. The problem is that i have a 6.4GB
hard drive :-)

> In any case, what will limit you is, most likely, not Linux itself, but
> either LILO or fdisk. Old versions of LILO will be subject to the
> 1024-cylinder limit, requiring that you place a small /dev/hda1 partition
> on the drive and use it as /boot .
>

I booted the kernel from slackware 1.1.2 distribution (linux 0.99.15) and
it says that my harddrive has too many heads (255) ;-) but that's on a
40GB maxtor :-))

Thanks again



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Re: Linux 0.99.15 (historycal question)

[chuck gelm]

<snip>

>I found a site http://linux.ka.nu/ which has slackware 1.1.2 and i thought
>to give it a try on my 486 machine. The problem is that i have a 6.4GB
>hard drive :-)
>  
>
If you are simply trying to run linux on an 80486 why not try
a current kernel.  I ran kernel 2.2.19 on an 80486dx33 with
32 MB of RAM and a 40 Gigabyte Maxtor.  BIOS would
recognize 2.1 GB through Maxtor's EZ-DISK utility.  Linux
recognizes the rest of the 38 GB as it boots.  I am now
running kernel 2.4.22 (Slackware9.1) on this 80486dx33.
It is my firewall and router. 

HTH, Chuck

>>In any case, what will limit you is, most likely, not Linux itself, but
>>either LILO or fdisk. Old versions of LILO will be subject to the
>>1024-cylinder limit, requiring that you place a small /dev/hda1 partition
>>on the drive and use it as /boot .
>>
>>    
>>
>
>I booted the kernel from slackware 1.1.2 distribution (linux 0.99.15) and
>it says that my harddrive has too many heads (255) ;-) but that's on a
>40GB maxtor :-))
>
>Thanks again
>
>
>
>--
>"A mouse is a device used to point at
>the xterm you want to type in".
>Kim Alm on a.s.r.
>  
>


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Re: Linux 0.99.15 (historycal question)

[3aoo-cvfd]

caszonyi@rdslink.ro wrote:
>
> I found a site http://linux.ka.nu/ which has slackware 1.1.2 
> and i thought to give it a try on my 486 machine. The problem 
> is that i have a 6.4GB hard drive :-)

If you are looking for something to run on your 486, have
a look at BL3.  It is designed for old PCs with as little
as 3mb RAM.  It includes a slim version of X.

http://www.volny.cz/basiclinux


Cheers,
Steven

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