Wireless Mouse/ USB selection

Wireless Mouse/ USB selection

[Steven Ackerman]

Greetings list. I hope this message finds everyone
enjoying their day.

I have just installed Mandrake 9.1. I chose tty0
(com1?) during installation for the mouse. I have
installed M9.1 previously and I believe that I chose
USB mouse during the installation.

I need to change this and don't know how. I looked at
tldp.org and didn't find anything. It was somewhat
cumbersome using entirely the keyboard anyway.
Hopefully someone can help.

Steve


		
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Re: Wireless Mouse/ USB selection

[pa3gcu]

On Friday 18 June 2004 02:59, Steven Ackerman wrote:
> Greetings list. I hope this message finds everyone
> enjoying their day.
>
> I have just installed Mandrake 9.1. I chose tty0
> (com1?) during installation for the mouse.

I am sure you mean /dev/ttyS0 not /dev/tty0

> I have installed M9.1 previously and I believe that I chose
> USB mouse during the installation.

It depends on where your mouse is actualy connected too and quite possably 
what type of mouse it is.

>
> I need to change this and don't know how. I looked at
> tldp.org and didn't find anything. It was somewhat
> cumbersome using entirely the keyboard anyway.
> Hopefully someone can help.

USB mice do not  normally connect to a seriel port, they connect to a USB 
port, some USB mice can even be connected to a PS2 port when a USB to PS2 
plug is used.

Not knowing what type of mouse you have and or where it needs to be connected 
one cannot really comment, on top of all that one needs to know which 
protocol it uses as well because it all depends on where its connected.

>
> Steve

-- 
If the Linux community is a bunch of thieves because they
try to imitate windows programs, then the Windows community
is built on organized crime.

Regards Richard
pa3gcu@zeelandnet.nl
http://people.zeelandnet.nl/pa3gcu/


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Re: Wireless Mouse/ USB selection

[Steven Ackerman]

Please see inline comments:

--- pa3gcu <pa3gcu@zeelandnet.nl> wrote:
> > I have just installed Mandrake 9.1. I chose tty0
> > (com1?

> I am sure you mean /dev/ttyS0 not /dev/tty0

I guess so. Whatever it was doesn't really matter. It
wasn't right. I believe it was the linux equivelant of
Com port 1. You would probably know better than I.
> 
> > I have installed M9.1 previously and I believe
> that I chose
> > USB mouse during the installation.

Whatever it was that I chose the first time, when I
used the same installation media, worked. Sorry, I
can't remember what it was.
> 
> It depends on where your mouse is actualy connected
> too and quite possably 
> what type of mouse it is.

My mouse is not connected to anything. I believe it
uses radio waves. I do not know what recieves whatever
it is that it uses. The mouse came with the machine
which is a Sony Vaio PCV-V100G. Before everyone pukes,
as I did, please let me state. I have had this machine
with it's stupid vaio mouse working before. The mouse
says "Vaio" on it. It's wireless. Red light emanates
from the bottom of what would typically be the scroll
ball on the bottom of a "regular" mouse. I hope that
helps.

> 
> >
> > I need to change this and don't know how. I looked
> at
> > tldp.org and didn't find anything. It was somewhat
> > cumbersome using entirely the keyboard anyway.
> > Hopefully someone can help.
> 
> USB mice do not  normally connect to a seriel port,
> they connect to a USB 
> port, some USB mice can even be connected to a PS2
> port when a USB to PS2 
> plug is used.
> 
> Not knowing what type of mouse you have and or where
> it needs to be connected 
> one cannot really comment, on top of all that one
> needs to know which 
> protocol it uses as well because it all depends on
> where its connected.

Sorry. I didn't need to know all that when I installed
the first time. And I don't recall choosing an option
that fit my mouse. My mouse is not USB, but I thought
I chose it and had it working with that option. My
mouse is wireless. What protocol it uses, I have no
clue. I didn't even know a mouse would use a protocol.
Anyway. I hope this might clarify some things and let
you know where I'm at and what I do and don't know
about the problem. I did find the mouse.conf file and
notice the entry in there for tty0 ( I believe it was
/dev/tty0). But that doesn't help someone who doesn't
know what entry to put in it for their mouse. Hence
the message to the list.

Thanks. Let me know if there's something more I can
explain or do. If not, I'll keep looking for other
resources.

Thanks again.

-Steve
> 
> >
> > Steve
> 
> -- 
> If the Linux community is a bunch of thieves because
> they
> try to imitate windows programs, then the Windows
> community
> is built on organized crime.
> 
> Regards Richard
> pa3gcu@zeelandnet.nl
> http://people.zeelandnet.nl/pa3gcu/
> 
> 
> 



		
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Re: Wireless Mouse/ USB selection

[Ray Olszewski]

I'm afraid I missed the initial message in this thread, but from your 
response here (quoted below), it appears that you have a mouse on your Vaio 
but no not know what OS device it connects to. The hardware is some sort of 
wireless connection, I presume from what you wrote one that is built into 
the Vaio (not a separate receiver that plugs into some port on the Vaio).

My first guess is that you have what looks like a PS/2 mouse to the Vaio 
hardware. (Your "red light" comment makes me think it is actually an IR 
device... but we care little about what the physical arrangement is, more 
what the BIOS sees it as.) In that case, you probably want to use 
/dev/psaux to connect to. I say "probably" because Linux distros do vary a 
bit in how they handle devices, especially in that some use "devfs" to 
customize devices while others use the older, plain-Jane /dev filesystem.

If not ... I suppose there is a remote chance that this mouse actually uses 
an irda interface. I've never run into one of those, but perhaps someone 
else here has. Or there is a remote chance that the BIOS sees a built in 
irda port as on the USB bus, so you might try that, since you say you 
"think" you did that before.

Finally ... your continued use of "/dev/tty0" instead of the correct 
"/dev/ttyS0" makes me wonder if you have checked that part of the setup. I 
think that irda ports on laptops do sometimes look (to the BIOS) like 
serial ports, suggesting that either /dev/ttyS0 (=COM1) or /dev/ttyS1 
(=COM2) is the correct device to use. And, of course, Richard was quite 
corret in saying that ttyS0, not tty0, is the correct device designator.

One other thing to check is if you have a device called /dev/mouse. If you 
do, it is almost surely a symlink to whatever actual device you originally 
configured the system to use.

Last thought: At least in the fragments here, you do not tell us what "not 
works" means. Does the mouse fail in X or on a console (using gpm, for 
example)? Does it not work at all, work erratically, or what?

And is "mouse.conf" a file peculiar to Makdrake (or to the family of 
rpm-based distros), or is it a configuration file for some particular 
application? (I don't seem to have any corresponding file on my Debian 
systems.)

At 05:58 PM 6/18/2004 -0700, Steven Ackerman wrote:
>Please see inline comments:
>
>--- pa3gcu <pa3gcu@zeelandnet.nl> wrote:
> > > I have just installed Mandrake 9.1. I chose tty0
> > > (com1?
>
> > I am sure you mean /dev/ttyS0 not /dev/tty0
>
>I guess so. Whatever it was doesn't really matter. It
>wasn't right. I believe it was the linux equivelant of
>Com port 1. You would probably know better than I.
> >
> > > I have installed M9.1 previously and I believe
> > that I chose
> > > USB mouse during the installation.
>
>Whatever it was that I chose the first time, when I
>used the same installation media, worked. Sorry, I
>can't remember what it was.
> >
> > It depends on where your mouse is actualy connected
> > too and quite possably
> > what type of mouse it is.
>
>My mouse is not connected to anything. I believe it
>uses radio waves. I do not know what recieves whatever
>it is that it uses. The mouse came with the machine
>which is a Sony Vaio PCV-V100G. Before everyone pukes,
>as I did, please let me state. I have had this machine
>with it's stupid vaio mouse working before. The mouse
>says "Vaio" on it. It's wireless. Red light emanates
>from the bottom of what would typically be the scroll
>ball on the bottom of a "regular" mouse. I hope that
>helps.
>
> >
> > >
> > > I need to change this and don't know how. I looked
> > at
> > > tldp.org and didn't find anything. It was somewhat
> > > cumbersome using entirely the keyboard anyway.
> > > Hopefully someone can help.
> >
> > USB mice do not  normally connect to a seriel port,
> > they connect to a USB
> > port, some USB mice can even be connected to a PS2
> > port when a USB to PS2
> > plug is used.
> >
> > Not knowing what type of mouse you have and or where
> > it needs to be connected
> > one cannot really comment, on top of all that one
> > needs to know which
> > protocol it uses as well because it all depends on
> > where its connected.
>
>Sorry. I didn't need to know all that when I installed
>the first time. And I don't recall choosing an option
>that fit my mouse. My mouse is not USB, but I thought
>I chose it and had it working with that option. My
>mouse is wireless. What protocol it uses, I have no
>clue. I didn't even know a mouse would use a protocol.
>Anyway. I hope this might clarify some things and let
>you know where I'm at and what I do and don't know
>about the problem. I did find the mouse.conf file and
>notice the entry in there for tty0 ( I believe it was
>/dev/tty0). But that doesn't help someone who doesn't
>know what entry to put in it for their mouse. Hence
>the message to the list.
>
>Thanks. Let me know if there's something more I can
>explain or do. If not, I'll keep looking for other
>resources.
>
>Thanks again.


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Re: Wireless Mouse/ USB selection

[pa3gcu]

On Saturday 19 June 2004 02:58, Steven Ackerman wrote:
> Please see inline comments:
>
> --- pa3gcu <pa3gcu@zeelandnet.nl> wrote:
> > > I have just installed Mandrake 9.1. I chose tty0
> > > (com1?
> >
> > I am sure you mean /dev/ttyS0 not /dev/tty0
>
> I guess so. Whatever it was doesn't really matter. It
> wasn't right. I believe it was the linux equivelant of
> Com port 1. You would probably know better than I.
>
> > > I have installed M9.1 previously and I believe

I did some searching on google for your computer, i could not find any site 
which actually stated what protocol the mouse use's, however my impression is 
that it is a normal ps2 mouse.

I would do the following;

Start mandrake into init 3
I cant remember which bootloader mandrake 9.1 used, if its lilo you need to 
type the name of the boot image and 3 after it asin;
linux 3
replace linux with the name of the boot image.
If its grub i belive all you need to do is select the boot image with the 
arrow up/down keys and then type in 3 in the "options" box.
Hit enter of course.

After booting login as root and type 'mouseconfig'
Select "Generic PS2 Wheel Mouse"
That takes care of the symlinks in /dev/

Your XF86Config(-4) file found in /etc/X11 may also need editing, a typical 
entry for a wheel mouse is;

Section "InputDevice"
        Identifier  "Mouse1"
        Driver      "mouse"
        Option       "Corepointer"
        Option      "Device" "/dev/psaux"
        Option      "Protocol" "IMPS/2"
        Option       "Buttons" "5"
        Option      "Emulate3Buttons" "off"
        Option      "ZAxisMapping" "4 5"
EndSection

After all that type init 5 to start X and see what happens.

-- 
If the Linux community is a bunch of thieves because they
try to imitate windows programs, then the Windows community
is built on organized crime.

Regards Richard
pa3gcu@zeelandnet.nl
http://people.zeelandnet.nl/pa3gcu/


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Re: Wireless Mouse/ USB selection

[Steven Ackerman]

Thank you everyone that responded. I really would have
thought that mouse.conf was a file common to linux
systems and not just a distrobution.

I'm sure that Richards suggestion would have worked
out fine, I just went about it with a different means.
Someone suggested I use Mandrakes "drakmouse" program.
I logged in as root, typed in "drakmouse" and got a
gui configurater for "mice". I chose Richards
suggestion of Generic 3 button PS2 mouse, rebooted my
machine and my mouse worked.

I was very happy. Thank you all for googleling and
looking into my issue. It was very frustrating for me.

Now I have hosed X from starting up. I'm going to post
to the list with a new message.

-Steve

--- pa3gcu <pa3gcu@zeelandnet.nl> wrote:
> On Saturday 19 June 2004 02:58, Steven Ackerman
> wrote:
> > Please see inline comments:
> >
> > --- pa3gcu <pa3gcu@zeelandnet.nl> wrote:
> > > > I have just installed Mandrake 9.1. I chose
> tty0
> > > > (com1?
> > >
> > > I am sure you mean /dev/ttyS0 not /dev/tty0
> >
> > I guess so. Whatever it was doesn't really matter.
> It
> > wasn't right. I believe it was the linux
> equivelant of
> > Com port 1. You would probably know better than I.
> >
> > > > I have installed M9.1 previously and I believe
> 
> I did some searching on google for your computer, i
> could not find any site 
> which actually stated what protocol the mouse use's,
> however my impression is 
> that it is a normal ps2 mouse.
> 
> I would do the following;
> 
> Start mandrake into init 3
> I cant remember which bootloader mandrake 9.1 used,
> if its lilo you need to 
> type the name of the boot image and 3 after it asin;
> linux 3
> replace linux with the name of the boot image.
> If its grub i belive all you need to do is select
> the boot image with the 
> arrow up/down keys and then type in 3 in the
> "options" box.
> Hit enter of course.
> 
> After booting login as root and type 'mouseconfig'
> Select "Generic PS2 Wheel Mouse"
> That takes care of the symlinks in /dev/
> 
> Your XF86Config(-4) file found in /etc/X11 may also
> need editing, a typical 
> entry for a wheel mouse is;
> 
> Section "InputDevice"
>         Identifier  "Mouse1"
>         Driver      "mouse"
>         Option       "Corepointer"
>         Option      "Device" "/dev/psaux"
>         Option      "Protocol" "IMPS/2"
>         Option       "Buttons" "5"
>         Option      "Emulate3Buttons" "off"
>         Option      "ZAxisMapping" "4 5"
> EndSection
> 
> After all that type init 5 to start X and see what
> happens.
> 
> -- 
> If the Linux community is a bunch of thieves because
> they
> try to imitate windows programs, then the Windows
> community
> is built on organized crime.
> 
> Regards Richard
> pa3gcu@zeelandnet.nl
> http://people.zeelandnet.nl/pa3gcu/
> 
> 
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Re: Wireless Mouse/ USB selection

[mike]

Steven,
I found some info on your mouse.

1) make sure the batteries are good and inserted in the mouse before
you turn the computer on.

2) press the (connect) button on the left panel of the computer.

3) turn mouse over and switch power button to (on) position, then
press the (connect) button on the mouse.

4) make sure the infared reciever on front panel of computer is not
obstucted.

I would check the above first, since it had been picked up and
installed on previous installs.

Mike


Steven Ackerman wrote:
> Please see inline comments:
> 
> --- pa3gcu <pa3gcu@zeelandnet.nl> wrote:
> 
>>>I have just installed Mandrake 9.1. I chose tty0
>>>(com1?
> 
> 
>>I am sure you mean /dev/ttyS0 not /dev/tty0
> 
> 
> I guess so. Whatever it was doesn't really matter. It
> wasn't right. I believe it was the linux equivelant of
> Com port 1. You would probably know better than I.
> 
>>>I have installed M9.1 previously and I believe
>>
>>that I chose
>>
>>>USB mouse during the installation.
> 
> 
> Whatever it was that I chose the first time, when I
> used the same installation media, worked. Sorry, I
> can't remember what it was.
> 
>>It depends on where your mouse is actualy connected
>>too and quite possably 
>>what type of mouse it is.
> 
> 
> My mouse is not connected to anything. I believe it
> uses radio waves. I do not know what recieves whatever
> it is that it uses. The mouse came with the machine
> which is a Sony Vaio PCV-V100G. Before everyone pukes,
> as I did, please let me state. I have had this machine
> with it's stupid vaio mouse working before. The mouse
> says "Vaio" on it. It's wireless. Red light emanates
> from the bottom of what would typically be the scroll
> ball on the bottom of a "regular" mouse. I hope that
> helps.
> 
> 
>>>I need to change this and don't know how. I looked
>>
>>at
>>
>>>tldp.org and didn't find anything. It was somewhat
>>>cumbersome using entirely the keyboard anyway.
>>>Hopefully someone can help.
>>
>>USB mice do not  normally connect to a seriel port,
>>they connect to a USB 
>>port, some USB mice can even be connected to a PS2
>>port when a USB to PS2 
>>plug is used.
>>
>>Not knowing what type of mouse you have and or where
>>it needs to be connected 
>>one cannot really comment, on top of all that one
>>needs to know which 
>>protocol it uses as well because it all depends on
>>where its connected.
> 
> 
> Sorry. I didn't need to know all that when I installed
> the first time. And I don't recall choosing an option
> that fit my mouse. My mouse is not USB, but I thought
> I chose it and had it working with that option. My
> mouse is wireless. What protocol it uses, I have no
> clue. I didn't even know a mouse would use a protocol.
> Anyway. I hope this might clarify some things and let
> you know where I'm at and what I do and don't know
> about the problem. I did find the mouse.conf file and
> notice the entry in there for tty0 ( I believe it was
> /dev/tty0). But that doesn't help someone who doesn't
> know what entry to put in it for their mouse. Hence
> the message to the list.
> 
> Thanks. Let me know if there's something more I can
> explain or do. If not, I'll keep looking for other
> resources.
> 
> Thanks again.
> 
> -Steve
> 
>>>Steve
>>
>>-- 
>>If the Linux community is a bunch of thieves because
>>they
>>try to imitate windows programs, then the Windows
>>community
>>is built on organized crime.
>>
>>Regards Richard
>>pa3gcu@zeelandnet.nl
>>http://people.zeelandnet.nl/pa3gcu/
>>
>>
>>
> 
> 
> 
> 
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