tovid - videotrans ? (was Re: Convert .avi to .vob/Linux only??)

tovid - videotrans ? (was Re: Convert .avi to .vob/Linux only??)

[chuck gelm]

I would also like to convert some .avi (and other formats) so they can be
viewed on a DVD player.  I tried 'videotran' that Ray found.  The spiel
on http://videotrans.sourceforge.net/

 I downloaded the source and that was only the beginning of a
wild goose chase.

.../videotrans-1.4.1... only a 85K .tar.gz however
./configure halted with an error that ffmpeg was required.

 I obtained ffmpeg and ./configure && make && make install

.../videotrans-1.4.1/./configure complained that mpegtools was required

I obtained mpegtools, ./configure && make && make install

.../videotrans-1.4.1/./configure complained that spumux was required and 
spumux was part of dvdauthor.

 I obtained dvdauthor and ./configure, but dvdauthor halted on error 
that libdvdread (-devel)
 was required and did not mention where it could be found.
I give up.

 I found 'tovid' and am off on this path:
http://tovid.berlios.de//en/index.html

"tovid is a collection of video disc authoring tools; it can help you 
create your own DVDs, VCDs, and SVCDs for playback on your home DVD 
player. It has a command-line interface 
<http://tovid.berlios.de//en/cli.html> as well as a graphical frontend 
<http://tovid.berlios.de//en/gui.html>. tovid is free software 
<http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Free_software>."

:-|  Chuck


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Re: tovid - videotrans ? (was Re: Convert .avi to .vob/Linux only??)

[Hal MacArgle]

On 02-27, chuck gelm wrote:
> I would also like to convert some .avi (and other formats) so they can be
> viewed on a DVD player.  I tried 'videotran' that Ray found.  The spiel
> on http://videotrans.sourceforge.net/
> 
> I downloaded the source and that was only the beginning of a
> wild goose chase.
> 
> ../videotrans-1.4.1... only a 85K .tar.gz however
> ./configure halted with an error that ffmpeg was required.
> 
> I obtained ffmpeg and ./configure && make && make install
> 
> ../videotrans-1.4.1/./configure complained that mpegtools was required
> 
> I obtained mpegtools, ./configure && make && make install
> 
> ../videotrans-1.4.1/./configure complained that spumux was required and 
> spumux was part of dvdauthor.
> 
> I obtained dvdauthor and ./configure, but dvdauthor halted on error 
> that libdvdread (-devel)
> was required and did not mention where it could be found.
> I give up.
> 
> I found 'tovid' and am off on this path:
> http://tovid.berlios.de//en/index.html
> 
> "tovid is a collection of video disc authoring tools; it can help you 
> create your own DVDs, VCDs, and SVCDs for playback on your home DVD 
> player. It has a command-line interface 
> <http://tovid.berlios.de//en/cli.html> as well as a graphical frontend 
> <http://tovid.berlios.de//en/gui.html>. tovid is free software 
> <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Free_software>."
> 
> :-|  Chuck

	Thanks Chuck for saving me a lot of leg work.. I suspect, not
really knowing, that dvdauthor would be a big stumbler because it's a
very powerful program and we only need a, probably, small part of
it..

	Correct me if I'm wrong but I am beginning to see why it's
not __easy__... The .avi file/s/ are viewable by themselves but the
kicker is to get them on a DVD blank in iso9660 format, for one, plus
into the various video_ts--.vob files plus .ifo and .bup files. etc..
For kicks I tried a Win98 scheme and it tought me something, mainly
that you need much more storage than suspected because it writes
everything to a temp file; not simply file direct to DVD... Bottom
line with my Duron 1.3M with 512M memory, in a Win98SE partition it
took almost 3 hours to do the deed, most of the time "converting"
"rather than "burning," with a DVD+RW 2.4X blank.. I bought some 8X
blanks to see if that speeds things up a mite; suspect not that
much... (Plextor PX-708A unit)

	I'm guessing that the various routines with Linux; each
operation is broken down into bits and pieces.. Actually that's what
we do with CD burning anyway, eh?? Please edit any mistakes above.
<grin> And, oh yes, the burned DVD views fine on an old standalone
DVD player, that we use for viewing commercial movies..

	Update: I just found, buried in my shack, a 3 page txt copy of
an article by Chris Stoddard; "DVD Authoring." I haven't a clue where
I fetched it from.. It goes into some good details, some of which may
not be needed for newer drives.. Worth a look see, maybe?

-- 

    Hal - in Terra Alta, WV/US - Slackware GNU/Linux 10.1   (2.4.29)
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Re: tovid - videotrans ? (was Re: Convert .avi to .vob/Linux only??)

[Ray Olszewski]

Hal MacArgle wrote:
[...]
> 	Update: I just found, buried in my shack, a 3 page txt copy of
> an article by Chris Stoddard; "DVD Authoring." I haven't a clue where
> I fetched it from.. It goes into some good details, some of which may
> not be needed for newer drives.. Worth a look see, maybe?
> 

http://linuxgazette.net/issue83/stoddard.html

It's dated 2002, which is a bit old. But then, so is your system, so it 
might be useful for advice on doing DVD burning with a system that is, 
by today's standards, a bit light on CPU power and RAM (and maybe HD 
space; i don't recall if you said).

As I skim through it, the one thing I realize that might be an issue for 
you is the codec your .avi files use. .avi is a container type (for 
combining video and audio), not a specification of how the video itself 
is encoded. These days, .avi *typically* means mpeg4 (aka DivX) video, 
but I doubr that was true for stuff encoded with strwamer (the vidcap 
application Stoddardf discusses). So you may have to do different 
transcoding to get from your video to the mpeg2 that DVDs expect.

Other parts look quite up to date. growisofs remains the current 
free-software standard for writing data DVDs, for example ... it's kind 
of a combination of mkisofs and cdrecord for DVDs. So while you won't 
find all the answers here, you should find it helpful.

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Re: tovid - videotrans ? (was Re: Convert .avi to .vob/Linux only??)

[chuck gelm]

Hal MacArgle wrote:

> <snip>
>
>
>	Thanks Chuck for saving me a lot of leg work.. I suspect, not
>really knowing, that dvdauthor would be a big stumbler because it's a
>very powerful program and we only need a, probably, small part of
>it..
>
>	Correct me if I'm wrong but I am beginning to see why it's
>not __easy__... The .avi file/s/ are viewable by themselves but the
>kicker is to get them on a DVD blank in iso9660 format, for one, plus
>  
>
I can create an iso9660 DVD without much difficulty.
I used 'growisofs'. 
This cannot be viewed on my DVD player, however. :-(

I revisited 'videotrans ./configure' after aquiring the items
required by 'tovid'.  Videotrans then 'configure'd, 'make'd, and 'make 
install'd.
 :-)
It creates folders AUDIO_TS and VIDEO_TS.
However, the 'man' page leaves me lost at the last step:

'a_command_to_burn_a_dvd_from dvd_directory'.  :-|

So, what is the command?
---
My 2 GHz Athlon takes over 40 minutes per 350 MB .avi,
so compare this file size and time to your own. :-|

Please show your commands that resulted in a viewable DVD.
Especially your 'a_command_to_burn_a_dvd_from dvd_directory'.

Regards, Chuck

p.s. Perhaps we should take this off list or to a videotrans/tovid list.?!

>into the various video_ts--.vob files plus .ifo and .bup files. etc..
>For kicks I tried a Win98 scheme and it tought me something, mainly
>that you need much more storage than suspected because it writes
>everything to a temp file; not simply file direct to DVD... Bottom
>line with my Duron 1.3M with 512M memory, in a Win98SE partition it
>took almost 3 hours to do the deed, most of the time "converting"
>"rather than "burning," with a DVD+RW 2.4X blank.. I bought some 8X
>blanks to see if that speeds things up a mite; suspect not that
>much... (Plextor PX-708A unit)
>
>	I'm guessing that the various routines with Linux; each
>operation is broken down into bits and pieces.. Actually that's what
>we do with CD burning anyway, eh?? Please edit any mistakes above.
><grin> And, oh yes, the burned DVD views fine on an old standalone
>DVD player, that we use for viewing commercial movies..
>
>	Update: I just found, buried in my shack, a 3 page txt copy of
>an article by Chris Stoddard; "DVD Authoring." I haven't a clue where
>I fetched it from.. It goes into some good details, some of which may
>not be needed for newer drives.. Worth a look see, maybe?
>
>  
>

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Re: tovid - videotrans ? (was Re: Convert .avi to .vob/Linux only??)

[chuck gelm]

Ken Nagorski wrote:

>Check this out...
>
>http://www.dtek.chalmers.se/groups/dvd/downloads.shtml
>
>
>Ken
>
>  
>
Hi, Ken:

 That link took me to a DVD reader.
I am looking for a DVD writer, especially converting .avi (.mov, .wmv, 
.mpg,...)
to DVD-player format (VIDEO_TS/AUDIO_TS; .VOB, .IFO, .BUP).

 I have many .avi files that I can watch on my laptop or desktop,
but I want to watch them on a DVD-player/Television.

Regards, Chuck

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Re: tovid - videotrans ? (was Re: Convert .avi to .vob/Linux only??)

[Stephen Samuel]

Try dvdauthor ... I got it to work for me. It's somewhat simplistic
but it does the job.

It creates the directory structure, I then used k3b to burn the
physical DVD

chuck gelm wrote:

> Ken Nagorski wrote:
>
>> Check this out...
>>
>> http://www.dtek.chalmers.se/groups/dvd/downloads.shtml
>
> Hi, Ken:
>
> That link took me to a DVD reader.
> I am looking for a DVD writer, especially converting .avi (.mov, .wmv, 
> .mpg,...)
> to DVD-player format (VIDEO_TS/AUDIO_TS; .VOB, .IFO, .BUP).
>
> I have many .avi files that I can watch on my laptop or desktop,
> but I want to watch them on a DVD-player/Television.



-- 
Stephen Samuel +1(604)450-0066             samnospam@bcgreen.com
		   http://www.bcgreen.com/
   Powerful committed communication. Transformation touching
     the jewel within each person and bringing it to light.

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Re: tovid - videotrans ? (was Re: Convert .avi to .vob/Linux only??)

[Stephen Samuel]

Try dvdauthor ... I got it to work for me. It's somewhat simplistic
but it does the job.

It creates the directory structure, I then used k3b to burn the
physical DVD

chuck gelm wrote:

> Ken Nagorski wrote:
>
>> Check this out...
>>
>> http://www.dtek.chalmers.se/groups/dvd/downloads.shtml
>
> Hi, Ken:
>
> That link took me to a DVD reader.
> I am looking for a DVD writer, especially converting .avi (.mov, .wmv, 
> .mpg,...)
> to DVD-player format (VIDEO_TS/AUDIO_TS; .VOB, .IFO, .BUP).
>
> I have many .avi files that I can watch on my laptop or desktop,
> but I want to watch them on a DVD-player/Television.


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videotrans (Season 1 Episode 2 ;-)

[chuck gelm]

Stephen Samuel wrote:

> Try dvdauthor ... I got it to work for me. It's somewhat simplistic
> but it does the job.
>
> It creates the directory structure, I then used k3b to burn the
> physical DVD
>
Hi, Stephen:

 'dvdauthor' is mentioned in the last step of the videotrans utilities.
(http://videotrans.sourceforge.net/videotrans.1.html)

 I was able to convert three (3) .avi files and burn them to DVD,
but the 'menu' was not good.  The menu had one image of the
first scene of the last video that occupied the entire menu screen.
I could 'arrow' over to second movie and see the ">" button highlighted,
but it took a few minutes to guess that to see the third 'play button
I needed to press the 'down arrow' on my remote.  Then the play arrow
appeared in the middle of the 'image of the first scene of the last video'.
Oh, and at the bottom of the menu screen was always displayed the
filename of the last video, not the currently selected video.  :-|

 I am now redoing the process and leaving out the 'scene image'.
I hope to see a menu of only movie filenames from which to choose.
\/
/\
Fingers crost'
Chuck

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Re: tovid - videotrans ? (was Re: Convert .avi to .vob/Linux only??)

[Hal MacArgle]

On 02-28, Ray Olszewski wrote:
> 
> http://linuxgazette.net/issue83/stoddard.html
> 
> It's dated 2002, which is a bit old. But then, so is your system, so it 
> might be useful for advice on doing DVD burning with a system that is, 
> by today's standards, a bit light on CPU power and RAM (and maybe HD 
> space; i don't recall if you said).

	The HD seems to not be a problem in that I have a 40gB for
the O/S's and temp files plus a 60gB just for the data... Chuck has
discovered that a tremendous amount of time is spent for the
"conversion" to DVD/VOB.. The learning curve flattens, but not a
happy one... :^).. Funny no one, heretofore, has mentioned this that
I've seen.. Chucks CPU is a 2gHz Athlon; mine a 1.3gHz Duron.. I have
512mB DRAM and he over 700..

	Thanks to all for the help..

-- 

    Hal - in Terra Alta, WV/US - Slackware GNU/Linux 10.1   (2.4.29)
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