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* Syscall() vs _syscallN()
@ 2005-03-29  7:20 Alex LIU
  2005-03-29  9:36 ` J.
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From: Alex LIU @ 2005-03-29  7:20 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Linux Newbie

Hi:

With either of syscall() or _syscallN() we can define a system call in the user space program.I think they do the same work.What's the difference between them? Thanks!

Alex

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* Re: Syscall() vs _syscallN()
  2005-03-29  7:20 Syscall() vs _syscallN() Alex LIU
@ 2005-03-29  9:36 ` J.
  2005-03-30  1:38   ` Alex LIU
  0 siblings, 1 reply; 6+ messages in thread
From: J. @ 2005-03-29  9:36 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Linux Newbie

On Tue, 29 Mar 2005, Alex LIU wrote:

> Hi:
> 
> With either of syscall() or _syscallN() we can define a system call in the user space program.I think they do the same work.What's the difference between them? Thanks!
> 
> Alex

This is described in the manual page for syscalss

~: man syscalls

.... 164 system calls.. depending on your kernel version.. etc..

Roughly speaking, the code  belonging  to  the  system  call  with  number
__NR_xxx  defined  in /usr/include/asm/unistd.h can be found in the kernel
source in the routine sys_xxx().  ...... etc...

......

J.

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* RE: Syscall() vs _syscallN()
  2005-03-29  9:36 ` J.
@ 2005-03-30  1:38   ` Alex LIU
  2005-03-30 13:05     ` J.
  2005-03-30 16:56     ` Manish Regmi
  0 siblings, 2 replies; 6+ messages in thread
From: Alex LIU @ 2005-03-30  1:38 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: 'Linux Newbie'

Sorry for my unclear words...
I want to know the DIFFERENCE between SYSCALL() and _SYSCALLN()...
_syscallN() ( _syscall0(),_syscall1(),...._syscall6() ) is a macro defined
in include/asm/unist.h while syscall() is a glibc function which I'm not
sure. Thanks!

Alex

-----Original Message-----
From: linux-newbie-owner@vger.kernel.org
[mailto:linux-newbie-owner@vger.kernel.org] On Behalf Of J.
Sent: Tuesday, March 29, 2005 5:36 PM
To: Linux Newbie
Subject: Re: Syscall() vs _syscallN()


On Tue, 29 Mar 2005, Alex LIU wrote:

> Hi:
> 
> With either of syscall() or _syscallN() we can define a system call in 
> the user space program.I think they do the same work.What's the 
> difference between them? Thanks!
> 
> Alex

This is described in the manual page for syscalss

~: man syscalls

.... 164 system calls.. depending on your kernel version.. etc..

Roughly speaking, the code  belonging  to  the  system  call  with  number
__NR_xxx  defined  in /usr/include/asm/unistd.h can be found in the kernel
source in the routine sys_xxx().  ...... etc...

......

J.

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* RE: Syscall() vs _syscallN()
  2005-03-30  1:38   ` Alex LIU
@ 2005-03-30 13:05     ` J.
  2005-04-01  7:35       ` Alex LIU
  2005-03-30 16:56     ` Manish Regmi
  1 sibling, 1 reply; 6+ messages in thread
From: J. @ 2005-03-30 13:05 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: 'Linux Newbie'

On Wed, 30 Mar 2005, Alex LIU wrote:

> Sorry for my unclear words...
> I want to know the DIFFERENCE between SYSCALL() and _SYSCALLN()...
> _syscallN() ( _syscall0(),_syscall1(),...._syscall6() ) is a macro defined
> in include/asm/unist.h while syscall() is a glibc function which I'm not
> sure. Thanks!
> 
> Alex

One is a macro to call the NN'th systemcall directly by symbolic nr. 
The other is a function in which you have to specify the call number
yourself and then calls the NN'th systemcall or the systemcall if it's
not defined in the glbic yet...

What distro are u using ? There should be a manual-page that describes the
difference quite clearly. Unfortunatly documentation of this level in the
system is often omitted among newer distro's.

The NN number you are refering to is nothing more than a symbolic
Number. 

############ man page....
System calls like close() are implemented
in the Linux libc. This implementation often involves:

calling a macro        <---------#!#
which eventually calls syscall(). Parameters passed to syscall() are the
number of the system call followed by the needed arguments. The actual
system call numbers can be found in <linux/unistd.h> while <sys/syscall.h>
gets updated with a new libc. If new calls appear that don't have a stub
in libc yet, you can use syscall(). As an example, you can close a file
using syscall() like this (not advised):

#include <syscall.h>

extern int syscall(int, ...);

int my_close(int filedescriptor)
{
   return syscall(SYS_close, filedescriptor);
}

Bit more clear or .. ?? 

J.

~: man -k syscall
afs_syscall (2)      - unimplemented system calls
syscalls (2)         - list of all system calls

 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: linux-newbie-owner@vger.kernel.org
> [mailto:linux-newbie-owner@vger.kernel.org] On Behalf Of J.
> Sent: Tuesday, March 29, 2005 5:36 PM
> To: Linux Newbie
> Subject: Re: Syscall() vs _syscallN()
> 
> 
> On Tue, 29 Mar 2005, Alex LIU wrote:
> 
> > Hi:
> > 
> > With either of syscall() or _syscallN() we can define a system call in 
> > the user space program.I think they do the same work.What's the 
> > difference between them? Thanks!
> > 
> > Alex
> 
> This is described in the manual page for syscalss
> 
> ~: man syscalls
> 
> .... 164 system calls.. depending on your kernel version.. etc..
> 
> Roughly speaking, the code  belonging  to  the  system  call  with  number
> __NR_xxx  defined  in /usr/include/asm/unistd.h can be found in the kernel
> source in the routine sys_xxx().  ...... etc...
> 
> ......
> 
> J.
> 
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* Re: Syscall() vs _syscallN()
  2005-03-30  1:38   ` Alex LIU
  2005-03-30 13:05     ` J.
@ 2005-03-30 16:56     ` Manish Regmi
  1 sibling, 0 replies; 6+ messages in thread
From: Manish Regmi @ 2005-03-30 16:56 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: linux-newbie

On Wed, 30 Mar 2005 09:38:09 +0800, Alex LIU <alex.liu@st.com> wrote:
> Sorry for my unclear words...
> I want to know the DIFFERENCE between SYSCALL() and _SYSCALLN()...
> _syscallN() ( _syscall0(),_syscall1(),...._syscall6() ) is a macro defined
> in include/asm/unist.h while syscall() is a glibc function which I'm not
> sure. Thanks!
>
> Alex
>

You are absolutely correct.
_syscallN is a macro on unistd.h whah takes no of parameters according
to the value of N. i.e _syscall0() does not take any parameters
whereas _syscall6() takes 6 parameters.
_syscallN calls calls the glibc function syscall which is an assembly
entry in  sysdeps\unix\sysv\linux\i386\syscall.S (glibc source).

regards
Manish Regmi
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* RE: Syscall() vs _syscallN()
  2005-03-30 13:05     ` J.
@ 2005-04-01  7:35       ` Alex LIU
  0 siblings, 0 replies; 6+ messages in thread
From: Alex LIU @ 2005-04-01  7:35 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: 'Linux Newbie'

Thanks a lot for your detailed explanation and now I'm more clear...

I'm using RedHat9.0.

Alex


-----Original Message-----
From: linux-newbie-owner@vger.kernel.org
[mailto:linux-newbie-owner@vger.kernel.org] On Behalf Of J.
Sent: Wednesday, March 30, 2005 9:05 PM
To: 'Linux Newbie'
Subject: RE: Syscall() vs _syscallN()


On Wed, 30 Mar 2005, Alex LIU wrote:

> Sorry for my unclear words...
> I want to know the DIFFERENCE between SYSCALL() and _SYSCALLN()...
> _syscallN() ( _syscall0(),_syscall1(),...._syscall6() ) is a macro 
> defined in include/asm/unist.h while syscall() is a glibc function 
> which I'm not sure. Thanks!
> 
> Alex

One is a macro to call the NN'th systemcall directly by symbolic nr. 
The other is a function in which you have to specify the call number
yourself and then calls the NN'th systemcall or the systemcall if it's not
defined in the glbic yet...

What distro are u using ? There should be a manual-page that describes the
difference quite clearly. Unfortunatly documentation of this level in the
system is often omitted among newer distro's.

The NN number you are refering to is nothing more than a symbolic Number. 

############ man page....
System calls like close() are implemented
in the Linux libc. This implementation often involves:

calling a macro        <---------#!#
which eventually calls syscall(). Parameters passed to syscall() are the
number of the system call followed by the needed arguments. The actual
system call numbers can be found in <linux/unistd.h> while <sys/syscall.h>
gets updated with a new libc. If new calls appear that don't have a stub in
libc yet, you can use syscall(). As an example, you can close a file using
syscall() like this (not advised):

#include <syscall.h>

extern int syscall(int, ...);

int my_close(int filedescriptor)
{
   return syscall(SYS_close, filedescriptor);
}

Bit more clear or .. ?? 

J.

~: man -k syscall
afs_syscall (2)      - unimplemented system calls
syscalls (2)         - list of all system calls

 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: linux-newbie-owner@vger.kernel.org
> [mailto:linux-newbie-owner@vger.kernel.org] On Behalf Of J.
> Sent: Tuesday, March 29, 2005 5:36 PM
> To: Linux Newbie
> Subject: Re: Syscall() vs _syscallN()
> 
> 
> On Tue, 29 Mar 2005, Alex LIU wrote:
> 
> > Hi:
> > 
> > With either of syscall() or _syscallN() we can define a system call 
> > in
> > the user space program.I think they do the same work.What's the 
> > difference between them? Thanks!
> > 
> > Alex
> 
> This is described in the manual page for syscalss
> 
> ~: man syscalls
> 
> .... 164 system calls.. depending on your kernel version.. etc..
> 
> Roughly speaking, the code  belonging  to  the  system  call  with  
> number __NR_xxx  defined  in /usr/include/asm/unistd.h can be found in 
> the kernel source in the routine sys_xxx().  ...... etc...
> 
> ......
> 
> J.
> 
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