dual boot

dual boot

[Anna G. Zapata]

Hello all,

I would like to install RH 8.0 on my W2K laptop (a dual boot).  I entered
the installation program without a problem and finally came upon the
partioning section of the setup.  I clicked to use an automatic partition
and clicked next.  I was told that there wasn't enough disk space, but I
know that I have a little over 2G on the drive.  Does anyone have any
suggestions as to what I'm doing wrong?

Thanks.

Anna G. Zapata - GSEC, MCIS
University of Denver
University Technology Services - Network Security
(303) 871-2009 (phone)
(303) 871-4135 (fax)
azapata@du.edu (email)


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Re: dual boot

[James Miller]

On Thu, 17 Jul 2003, Anna G. Zapata wrote:
>
> I would like to install RH 8.0 on my W2K laptop (a dual boot).  I entered
> the installation program without a problem and finally came upon the
> partioning section of the setup.  I clicked to use an automatic partition
> and clicked next.  I was told that there wasn't enough disk space, but I
> know that I have a little over 2G on the drive.  Does anyone have any
> suggestions as to what I'm doing wrong?
>
I don't know RH 8's setup routine, but I would guess that it would either:
1) expect to find an already-formatted (ext2, ext3, reiserfs) Linux
partition on your system (and maybe an already-created swap partition as
well); or 2) would expect to find some free space on the drive (space not
yet allocated for another OS).  A third possibility, and one I see Knoppix
includes in their latest release, is that the install routine would offer
to resize an existing partition to make space for the installation.  Not
knowing RH 8, I can't say with which of these you may have been confronted
- if any.  But your description seems to indicate that maybe you've
alloted the whole of your laptop's drive space to W2K.  If you have, and
if RH 8 comes with no disk resizing capability, then it would most likely
indicate that there was no space on the disk for the install.  If that's
the case, until you free up some space for a Linux partition, you won't be
able to install Linux.

Caveat to that last statement: you can run Linux from a DOS/Win filesystem
(as long as it's not NTFS, IIRC) using certain distros - I think WinLinux
is the name of one such distro.  I doubt RH can do this though.  There are
certain performance hits in using this approach, as I understand it.  So,
you need not necessarily resize/repartition your disk to run certain types
of Linux.

James
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Re: dual boot

[Frank Roberts - SOTL]

Nothing
 
You don't have large enough HD for a dual boot and data.

On my laptop I have a 50 GB partitioned as follows.
hda1 10 GB Windows XP
hda2  20 GB Common Data
hda3 100 Mb  Linux /boot
hda4  10 GB   Linux /
hda5   10 GB  Linux /home

Point is I am not sure I have enough HD if I attempt to edit or record 
realtime data.

Frank

On Thursday 17 July 2003 11:34, Anna G. Zapata wrote:
> Hello all,
>
> I would like to install RH 8.0 on my W2K laptop (a dual boot).  I entered
> the installation program without a problem and finally came upon the
> partioning section of the setup.  I clicked to use an automatic partition
> and clicked next.  I was told that there wasn't enough disk space, but I
> know that I have a little over 2G on the drive.  Does anyone have any
> suggestions as to what I'm doing wrong?
>
> Thanks.
>
> Anna G. Zapata - GSEC, MCIS
> University of Denver
> University Technology Services - Network Security
> (303) 871-2009 (phone)
> (303) 871-4135 (fax)
> azapata@du.edu (email)
>
>
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Re: dual boot

[Ray Olszewski]

At 09:34 AM 7/17/2003 -0600, Anna G. Zapata wrote:
>Hello all,
>
>I would like to install RH 8.0 on my W2K laptop (a dual boot).  I entered
>the installation program without a problem and finally came upon the
>partioning section of the setup.  I clicked to use an automatic partition
>and clicked next.  I was told that there wasn't enough disk space, but I
>know that I have a little over 2G on the drive.  Does anyone have any
>suggestions as to what I'm doing wrong?


Others have offered some guesses about what your problem might be. No one 
can do mroe than guess, however, because " I have a little over 2G on the 
drive" is not very clear. Are you referring to the size of the drive, the 
unused space in a Windows partition, or the unused space not currently in 
any partition? If the first, your situation is probably hopeless. If the 
second, you will need to do some work, or switch to a different distro (as 
someone else suggested). If the third, then I'm surprised that you are 
having problems.

Offhand, I do not know how much space RH 8.0 requires to install, but I 
would expect 2 GB to be enough for a basic install (I can install a minimal 
Debian in about 200 MB, for example). If RH needs more space than that, 
shame on Red Hat ... it is using an awfully demanding and inflexible 
installer. But you do need the 2 GB in the form of unpartitioned space, so 
the RH installer can create an ext2 partition (and probably a swap 
partition too, unless your laptop has unusually generous RAM) for Linux to use.

RH used to ship with a partition resizer, an app that allowed you to make 
an existing (Windows, usually) partition smaller to make room for a Linux 
(ext2) partition. You might see if whatever version of RH you have offers 
this capability (I think it was called Partition Magic or something similar 
to that).

Even if you get RH to install on this system, you are likely to be limited 
in what it will be able to do. I'm not sure what Frank means by "realtime 
data", but certainly some data (e.g., mpeg or DivX video) is sufficiently 
demanding of disk space that a 2 GB partition would be woefully inadequate 
(for perspective, the system that I store edited video on has about 450 GB 
of storage). Still, 2 GB should be enough to give you a system that is 
usable for many purposes.



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