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From: "Danilo Krummrich" <dakr@kernel.org>
To: "Rodrigo Vivi" <rodrigo.vivi@intel.com>
Cc: "Alex Deucher" <alexdeucher@gmail.com>,
	"Dave Airlie" <airlied@gmail.com>,
	"Simona Vetter" <simona@ffwll.ch>,
	"Maarten Lankhorst" <maarten.lankhorst@linux.intel.com>,
	"Maxime Ripard" <mripard@kernel.org>,
	"Thomas Zimmermann" <tzimmermann@suse.de>,
	"Jani Nikula" <jani.nikula@linux.intel.com>,
	"Joonas Lahtinen" <joonas.lahtinen@linux.intel.com>,
	"Tvrtko Ursulin" <tursulin@ursulin.net>,
	"Matthew Brost" <matthew.brost@intel.com>,
	"Thomas Hellström" <thomas.hellstrom@linux.intel.com>,
	"Alice Ryhl" <aliceryhl@google.com>,
	"Alex Deucher" <alexander.deucher@amd.com>,
	"Christian König" <christian.koenig@amd.com>,
	dri-devel@lists.freedesktop.org,
	"Mark Brown" <broonie@kernel.org>,
	linux-next@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [RFC] linux-next: replace the DRM trees with a single drm-for-linux-next
Date: Wed, 04 Nov 2026 00:01:36 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <DMLY7GDT8VBO.EE1P01ZX2HPK@kernel.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <aupktBCwcN_coHEH@intel.com>

On Tue Nov 3, 2026 at 11:48 PM CET, Rodrigo Vivi wrote:
> On Tue, Nov 03, 2026 at 04:19:11PM -0500, Alex Deucher wrote:
>> On Tue, Nov 3, 2026 at 4:11 PM Danilo Krummrich <dakr@kernel.org> wrote:
>> >
>> > On Tue Nov 3, 2026 at 9:33 PM CET, Rodrigo Vivi wrote:
>> > > On Tue, Nov 03, 2026 at 08:32:48PM +0100, Danilo Krummrich wrote:
>> > >> IOW, linux-next merges tip/for-linux-next, and tip/for-linux-next merges
>> > >> $tree/for-linux-next, rather than $tree/$tree-next.
>> > >
>> > > For this to work we need:
>> > > 1. xe to create for-linux-next for-linux-next-fixes
>> > > 2. amd to create for-linux-next for-linux-next-fixes
>> >
>> > Huh, I thought all the trees are doing this already. Well, that explains
>> > where the the problem comes from. :)
>> >
>> > In any case, drm-misc, drm-rust and drm-intel already have for-linux-next and
>> > for-linux-next-fixes, and the implementation is generic. So, adding it to xe and
>> > amd is trivial.
>> 
>> I've started doing this for amdgpu this cycle as well, but I still
>> pushed an amdgpu-next branch as well since that is the source of all
>> of the cherry-picks for -fixes and -next-fixes.
>
> But it only works if you stop this branch of updating after you sent your last
> -PR and from that point and on you merge or cherry-pick-from your -next-fixes.
> Otherwise you are sending next.next material to -linux-next.
> And this is the current issue Mark is raising to us for a while.
>
> We have 2 proposals on the table:
> 1. (this RFC): a global unified drm-for-linux-next that is a chop-point while
>    drm-tip is getting constructed.
>    If we go with this option you don't need to do anything, but stop maintaining
>    your for-linux-next.
> 2. (Danilo's proposal): Each driver/domain keep their for-intel-next and
>    for-intel-next-fixes for granular control of the blackout weeks
>    and dim merge them together into a drm-for-linux-next
>    If we go with this you need to at least ensure that your for-linux-next
>    doesn't contain next.next material during our blackout periods.

dim already does that, fully automatically, it checks:

	git merge-base --is-ancestor $remote/$linux_next_fixes $remote/$linux_fixes

which means:

- If -next-fixes is an ancestor of (or equal to) -fixes: feed for-linux-next
  from -next. This means -fixes has caught up with all of -next-fixes.

- Otherwise: feed it from -next-fixes, which contains changes that haven’t
  reached -fixes.

The only think maintainers need to do is push $tree-next-fixes to catch up with
$tree-next, which they need to do anyways.

IMO, this is more robust than relying on all maintainers freezing $tree-next at
exactly one global cutoff.

  reply	other threads:[~2026-11-03 23:01 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 24+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2026-11-02 18:41 [RFC] linux-next: replace the DRM trees with a single drm-for-linux-next Rodrigo Vivi
2026-11-02 18:51 ` Danilo Krummrich
2026-11-02 19:20   ` Rodrigo Vivi
2026-11-02 20:01     ` Danilo Krummrich
2026-11-03  2:05       ` Dave Airlie
2026-11-03 19:32         ` Danilo Krummrich
2026-11-03 20:33           ` Rodrigo Vivi
2026-11-03 21:04             ` Danilo Krummrich
2026-11-03 21:19               ` Alex Deucher
2026-11-03 22:48                 ` Rodrigo Vivi
2026-11-03 23:01                   ` Danilo Krummrich [this message]
2026-11-04  2:37                     ` Rodrigo Vivi
2026-11-04  3:29                       ` Dave Airlie
2026-11-04 11:08                         ` Danilo Krummrich
2026-11-04 17:44                           ` Rodrigo Vivi
2026-11-04 22:35                             ` Danilo Krummrich
2026-11-03 22:39               ` Rodrigo Vivi
2026-11-02 18:58 ` Mark Brown
2026-11-02 23:07 ` Alex Deucher
2026-11-03 20:35   ` Rodrigo Vivi
2026-11-03 21:24     ` Alex Deucher
2026-11-04  5:49 ` Thorsten Leemhuis
2026-11-04 11:48   ` Mark Brown
2026-11-04 12:46   ` Sasha Levin

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