From: Andy Adamson <andros@netapp.com>
To: "J. Bruce Fields" <bfields@fieldses.org>
Cc: linux-nfs@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH 0/3] NFSD EOS deferral
Date: Fri, 17 Oct 2008 14:44:57 -0400 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <1224269097.3883.33.camel@localhost.localdomain> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20081017174454.GB11884@fieldses.org>
On Fri, 2008-10-17 at 13:44 -0400, J. Bruce Fields wrote:
> On Wed, Oct 15, 2008 at 05:00:23PM -0400, andros@netapp.com wrote:
> > Here's a patch set for review - it compiles and seems to work, but I haven't
> > done stress testing, nor testing of all of the combinations of deferral cases.
> >
> > A deferral occurs when NFSD needs information from an rpc cache, and an upcall
> > is required. Instead of NFSD waiting for the cache to be filled by the upcall,
> > the RPC request is inserted back into the receive stream for processing at a
> > later time.
> >
> > Exactly once semantics require that NFSD compound RPC deferral processing
> > restart at the operation that caused the deferral, instead of reprocessing the
> > full compound RPC from the start possibly repeating operation processing.
> > These patches add three callbacks, a data pointer, and page pointer storage
> > to the sunrpc svc deferral architecture that NFSD uses to accomplish this goal.
> >
> > Deferrals that do not define the callbacks act as before. Care has been taken
> > to ensure that combinations of deferrals - those from the NFSv4 server with
> > the callbacks defined, and those from the RPC layer without the callbacks
> > defined work together correctly.
> >
> > Thoughts, comments and suggestions are really appreciated...
>
> Requests longer than a page are still not deferred, so large writes that
> trigger upcalls still get an ERR_DELAY. OK, probably no big deal.
>
> I don't think we can apply this until we have some way to track the
> number and size of deferred requests outstanding and fall back on
> ERR_DELAY if it's too much.
>
> I do sometimes wonder whether continuing with the current
> deferred-request approach is best, though:
>
> - If we're saving out large parts of the request anyway (the
> response pages), then maybe we should just keep rqstp's
> on the deferred request queue instead of copying to a separate
> deferred_request structure.
> - Then as long as we're saving all that request data, is there
> really significant savings from not keeping a thread around
> too?
True, especially if we also save large arg data, as in large writes that
trigger upcalls.
>
> So I wonder if it'd be better just to let threads sleep (and be more
> aggressive about starting up new threads if appropriate, and add some
> other heuristics to avoid a situation where the whole server stalls on a
> temporarily wedged userspace daemon).
>
> --b.
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2008-10-17 18:45 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 18+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2008-10-15 21:00 [PATCH 0/3] NFSD EOS deferral andros
2008-10-15 21:00 ` [PATCH 1/3] SUNRPC add deferral processing callbacks andros
2008-10-15 21:00 ` [PATCH 2/3] NFSD save, restore, and release deferred result pages andros
2008-10-15 21:00 ` [PATCH 3/3] NFSD deferral processing andros
2008-10-17 20:46 ` Talpey, Thomas
[not found] ` <RTPCLUEXC1-PRDNY30k000001cc-rtwIt2gI0FxT+ZUat5FNkAK/GNPrWCqfQQ4Iyu8u01E@public.gmane.org>
2008-10-20 17:58 ` J. Bruce Fields
2008-10-17 17:48 ` [PATCH 1/3] SUNRPC add deferral processing callbacks J. Bruce Fields
2008-10-17 18:42 ` Andy Adamson
2008-10-17 20:35 ` Talpey, Thomas
[not found] ` <RTPCLUEXC1-PRDf3sll000001cb-rtwIt2gI0FxT+ZUat5FNkAK/GNPrWCqfQQ4Iyu8u01E@public.gmane.org>
2008-10-20 18:42 ` J. Bruce Fields
2008-10-17 17:44 ` [PATCH 0/3] NFSD EOS deferral J. Bruce Fields
2008-10-17 18:44 ` Andy Adamson [this message]
2008-10-17 18:59 ` Marc Eshel
[not found] ` <OF9E4C4BA6.37418EC7-ON882574E5.0067FB2B-882574E5.0068487F@ us.ibm.com>
2008-10-17 20:26 ` Talpey, Thomas
[not found] ` <RTPCLUEXC1-PRDidcDj000001ca-rtwIt2gI0FxT+ZUat5FNkAK/GNPrWCqfQQ4Iyu8u01E@public.gmane.org>
2008-10-17 20:36 ` J. Bruce Fields
2008-10-17 20:51 ` Talpey, Thomas
[not found] ` <RTPCLUEXC1-PRDarcR4000001cd-rtwIt2gI0FxT+ZUat5FNkAK/GNPrWCqfQQ4Iyu8u01E@public.gmane.org>
2008-10-20 18:06 ` J. Bruce Fields
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2008-10-22 18:12 andros
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