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From: Martin Knoblauch <knobi-Ys4E+72pFW0hFhg+JK9F0w@public.gmane.org>
To: Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>
Cc: Greg Banks
	<gnb-cP1dWloDopni96+mSzHFpQC/G2K4zDHf@public.gmane.org>,
	linux-nfs list <linux-nfs@vger.kernel.org>,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	Peter zijlstra <a.p.zijlstra@chello.nl>
Subject: Re: [RFC][Resend] Make NFS-Client readahead tunable
Date: Thu, 18 Sep 2008 01:38:57 -0700 (PDT)	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <124712.40022.qm@web32602.mail.mud.yahoo.com> (raw)

----- Original Message ----

> From: Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>
> To: Martin Knoblauch <knobi-Ys4E+72pFW0hFhg+JK9F0w@public.gmane.org>
> Cc: Greg Banks <gnb-cP1dWloDopni96+mSzHFpQC/G2K4zDHf@public.gmane.org>; linux-nfs list <linux-nfs@vger.kernel.org>; linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
> Sent: Thursday, September 18, 2008 10:18:18 AM
> Subject: Re: [RFC][Resend] Make NFS-Client readahead tunable
> 
> On Thu, 18 Sep 2008 00:42:58 -0700 (PDT) Martin Knoblauch 
> wrote:
> 
> > ----- Original Message ----
> > 
> > > From: Andrew Morton 
> > > To: Greg Banks 
> > > Cc: Martin Knoblauch ; linux-nfs list 
> ; linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
> > > Sent: Thursday, September 18, 2008 5:13:34 AM
> > > Subject: Re: [RFC][Resend] Make NFS-Client readahead tunable
> > > 
> > > On Thu, 18 Sep 2008 11:42:54 +1000 Greg Banks wrote:
> > > 
> > > > I think having a tunable for client readahead is an excellent idea,
> > > > although not to solve your particular problem.  The SLES10 kernel has a
> > > > patch which does precisely that, perhaps Neil could post it.
> > > > 
> > > > I don't think there's a lot of point having both a module parameter and
> > > > a sysctl.
> > > 
> > > mount -o remount,readahead=42
> > 
> > [root@lpsdm52 ~]# mount -o remount,readahead=42 /net/spsdms/fs13
> > Bad nfs mount parameter: readahead
> > [root@lpsdm52 ~]# mount -o readahead=42 /net/spsdms/fs13
> > Bad nfs mount parameter: readahead
> > 
> > 
> >  I assume the reply was meant to say that the correct way of introducing a 
> modifyable readahead size is to implement it as a mount option ? :-)
> 
> Yes.
>

:-)
 
> > I considered it, but it seems to be more intrusive than the workaround patch. 
> It also needs changes to userspace tools - correct?
> 
> No.  mount(8) will pass unrecognised options straight down into the
> filesystem driver.
>

 Has that always been the case, or is it a recent change? I have to support RHEL4 userland, which is not really new.
 
> It's better this way - it allows the tunable to be set on a per-mount
> basis rather than machine-wide.
>

 No question about that. I just thought it to be to complicated. Maybe I erred.
 
> Note that for block devices, readahead is a per-backing_dev_info thing
> (and a backing_dev_info has a 1:1 relationship to a disk drive for sane
> setups).  
> 
> And the NFS client maintains a backing_dev_info, which appears to map
> onto a server, so making the NFS readahead a per-backing_dev_info (ie:
> per server) thing might make sense.  Maybe nfs makes per-server information
> manipulatable down in sysfs somewhere..

 I believe Peter wanted to add per bdi stuff for nfs some time ago. Not sure what came out of it.

Cheers
Martin

             reply	other threads:[~2008-09-18  8:38 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 32+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2008-09-18  8:38 Martin Knoblauch [this message]
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2008-09-18  8:47   ` [RFC][Resend] Make NFS-Client readahead tunable Andrew Morton
2008-09-18  8:57     ` Greg Banks
2008-09-18 13:20 ` Peter Zijlstra
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2008-09-21 12:53 Martin Knoblauch
2008-09-21 12:50 Martin Knoblauch
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2008-09-21 13:53   ` Chuck Lever
2008-09-18 11:53 Martin Knoblauch
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2008-09-18 18:24   ` Chuck Lever
     [not found]     ` <76bd70e30809181124t78c0d574gaed5702095c02921-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
2008-09-18 19:03       ` Peter Staubach
2008-09-18  9:32 Martin Knoblauch
2008-09-18  8:19 Martin Knoblauch
     [not found] ` <136998.55258.qm-RqHyxEpxwZuvuULXzWHTWIglqE1Y4D90QQ4Iyu8u01E@public.gmane.org>
2008-09-18  8:45   ` Greg Banks
2008-09-18  7:42 Martin Knoblauch
     [not found] ` <418380.19358.qm-1+WuAixcP4WvuULXzWHTWIglqE1Y4D90QQ4Iyu8u01E@public.gmane.org>
2008-09-18  8:18   ` Andrew Morton
2008-09-17 17:01 Martin Knoblauch
2008-09-17 16:23 Martin Knoblauch
     [not found] ` <804604.40886.qm-f6uctMgKLEavuULXzWHTWIglqE1Y4D90QQ4Iyu8u01E@public.gmane.org>
2008-09-17 16:43   ` Chuck Lever
2008-09-17 16:15 Martin Knoblauch
2008-09-17 16:10 Martin Knoblauch
2008-09-17 16:03 Martin Knoblauch
2008-09-17 13:42 Michael Trimarchi
2008-09-17 13:27 Martin Knoblauch
2008-09-17 13:25 Martin Knoblauch
     [not found] ` <995475.95604.qm-f6uctMgKLEavuULXzWHTWIglqE1Y4D90QQ4Iyu8u01E@public.gmane.org>
2008-09-17 15:31   ` Jim Rees
2008-09-17 13:19 Michael Trimarchi
2008-09-17 13:06 Martin Knoblauch
     [not found] ` <997439.5560.qm-VAEUvbQToQWvuULXzWHTWIglqE1Y4D90QQ4Iyu8u01E@public.gmane.org>
2008-09-17 13:21   ` Jim Rees
2008-09-17 14:06   ` Peter Staubach
2008-09-17 15:41     ` Chuck Lever
2008-09-18  1:42   ` Greg Banks
     [not found]     ` <48D1B21E.3060509-cP1dWloDopni96+mSzHFpQC/G2K4zDHf@public.gmane.org>
2008-09-18  3:13       ` Andrew Morton

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