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From: Trond Myklebust <Trond.Myklebust@netapp.com>
To: Casey Schaufler <casey@schaufler-ca.com>
Cc: Stephen Smalley <sds@tycho.nsa.gov>,
	James Morris <jmorris@namei.org>,
	linux-nfs@vger.kernel.org, linux-security-module@vger.kernel.org,
	"J. Bruce Fields" <bfields@fieldses.org>,
	Neil Brown <neilb@suse.de>, Dave Quigley <dpquigl@tycho.nsa.gov>,
	"Serge E. Hallyn" <serue@us.ibm.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 5/5] NFSv3: Add server namespace support for XATTR protocol implementation
Date: Sun, 28 Feb 2010 20:17:43 -0500	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <1267406263.3338.20.camel@localhost.localdomain> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <4B8B0F0B.4080603@schaufler-ca.com>

On Sun, 2010-02-28 at 16:49 -0800, Casey Schaufler wrote:

> I'm mostly in agreement with Stephen. I wouldn't object to a separate
> "nfsd." namespace, as opposed to "security." or "trusted." because I
> think that in reality you're not going to get very far without treating
> is a special case in any event. May as well acknowledge it up front.

That was indeed what I envisioned when I suggested it to James
originally, but I may have been a bit unclear on the subject.

I don't think that either 'security' or 'trusted' are a good fit here,
since they both have special meanings to local applications on the
server. 'user' is just wrong, since that means that ordinary local users
may end up with the power to change the security settings for remote
applications.

The intention of the 'nfsd' namespace was to separate the local and
remote xattr/security realms entirely. That includes allowing the server
to set up separate policies to determine who is allowed to change those
in the 'nfsd.*' namespace vs those who can change the ordinary
'security', 'trusted' and 'user' namespaces.

Cheers
  Trond

  reply	other threads:[~2010-03-01  1:36 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 32+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2010-02-26  4:33 [PATCH 0/5][v3][RFC] NFSv3: implement extended attribute protocol (XATTR) James Morris
2010-02-26  4:34 ` [PATCH 1/5] NFSv3: convert client to generic xattr API James Morris
2010-02-26  4:35 ` [PATCH 2/5] NFSv3: add xattr API config option for client James Morris
     [not found] ` <alpine.LRH.2.00.1002261457420.25193-CK9fWmtY32x9JUWOpEiw7w@public.gmane.org>
2010-02-26  4:36   ` Subject: [PATCH 3/5] NFSv3: add client implementation of XATTR protocol James Morris
2010-02-26  4:36 ` [PATCH 4/5] NFSv3: add server " James Morris
2010-02-26  4:37 ` [PATCH 5/5] NFSv3: Add server namespace support for XATTR protocol implementation James Morris
2010-02-26 13:46   ` Stephen Smalley
2010-03-01  0:49     ` Casey Schaufler
2010-03-01  1:17       ` Trond Myklebust [this message]
2010-03-01  8:09         ` James Morris
2010-03-08 10:42 ` [PATCH 0/6][v4][RFC] NFSv3: implement extended attribute protocol (XATTR) James Morris
2010-03-08 10:43   ` [PATCH 1/6] NFSv3: convert client to generic xattr API James Morris
     [not found]   ` <alpine.LRH.2.00.1003082122340.6314-CK9fWmtY32x9JUWOpEiw7w@public.gmane.org>
2010-03-08 10:43     ` [PATCH 2/6] NFSv3: add xattr API config option for client James Morris
2010-03-08 10:47     ` [PATCH 6/6] NFSv3: Add server namespace support for XATTR protocol implementation James Morris
2010-03-08 10:44   ` [PATCH 3/6] NFSv3: add client implementation of XATTR protocol James Morris
2010-03-08 10:45   ` [PATCH 4/6] NFSv3: add server " James Morris
2010-03-08 10:46   ` [PATCH 5/6] xattr: add new top level nfsd namespace and implement ext3 support James Morris
2010-03-09  3:59   ` [PATCH 0/6][v4][RFC] NFSv3: implement extended attribute protocol (XATTR) Brad Boyer
2010-03-09  5:49     ` Casey Schaufler
2010-03-09  7:04       ` Brad Boyer
2010-03-09 19:35         ` Jamie Lokier
2010-03-10  3:46           ` Casey Schaufler
2010-03-15  3:19             ` Jamie Lokier
2010-03-15  4:42               ` Casey Schaufler
2010-03-15 14:28                 ` Jamie Lokier
2010-03-15 23:28                   ` Casey Schaufler
2010-03-15 23:49                     ` Trond Myklebust
2010-03-16  2:31                       ` Casey Schaufler
2010-03-17 20:13       ` Eric Paris
2010-03-17 21:23         ` Casey Schaufler
2010-03-09  8:13     ` James Morris
2010-03-13  7:28       ` Brad Boyer

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