From: Rick Macklem <rmacklem@uoguelph.ca>
To: "J. Bruce Fields" <bfields@fieldses.org>
Cc: Nikolaus Rath <Nikolaus@rath.org>,
linux-nfs@vger.kernel.org, nfsv4@ietf.org
Subject: Re: [nfsv4] NFS4 over VPN hangs when connecting > 2 clients
Date: Mon, 19 Mar 2012 13:06:47 -0400 (EDT) [thread overview]
Message-ID: <1802632483.1230802.1332176807484.JavaMail.root@erie.cs.uoguelph.ca> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <1085412836.1228438.1332175460830.JavaMail.root@erie.cs.uoguelph.ca>
I wrote:
> J. Bruce Fields wrote:
> > On Mon, Mar 12, 2012 at 05:27:08PM -0400, J. Bruce Fields wrote:
> > > On Mon, Mar 12, 2012 at 05:14:16PM -0400, Chuck Lever wrote:
> > > > IMO, the server should do a comparison of the nfs_client_id4
> > > > strings,
> > > > and nothing else.
> > >
> > > We're supposed to return CLID_INUSE when we see a setclientid from
> > > a
> > > "different" client using the same string, to keep clients from
> > > doing
> > > mischief with other clients' state (either maliciously or, as in
> > > this
> > > case, accidentally).
> > >
> > > "Different" here is defined as "not having the same principal". I
> > > know
> > > what that means in the krb5 case, but I'm less certain in the
> > > auth_sys
> > > case.
> >
> > Cc'ing the ietf list. Is it reasonable for a server to expect
> > setclientid's to come from the same client IP address at least in
> > the
> > auth_sys case, or could that break multi-homed clients?
> >
> I think that even a dhcp lease renewal might result in a different
> client
> IP, if the client has been partitioned from the dhcp server for a
> while.
>
> I'm not convinced that different client IP# implies different client.
> (Even "same ip# implies same client" might not be true, if the dhcp
> server assigned the IP# to another machine while the client was
> partitioned
> from the dhcp server, I think? I haven't looked at current dhcp
> implementations, but it seems conceivable to me.)
>
Oh, and what about the case of 2 clients that are sitting behind
the same NAT gateway? (I think they'd both be seen as having the
client host ip# of the gateway, but with different TCP connections
on different client port#s.)
> For AUTH_SYS, all the FreeBSD server does is expect the same uid#.
>
> rick
> > At least in the auth_sys case IP addresses are one of the only
> > things
> > we
> > have left to go on when the client's identifier-generation is messed
> > up
> > (not that difficult).
> >
> > --b.
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next prev parent reply other threads:[~2012-03-19 17:06 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 46+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2012-03-11 1:34 NFS4 over VPN hangs when connecting > 2 clients Nikolaus Rath
2012-03-12 16:20 ` Nikolaus Rath
2012-03-12 19:31 ` J. Bruce Fields
2012-03-12 19:45 ` Nikolaus Rath
2012-03-12 20:15 ` J. Bruce Fields
2012-03-12 20:30 ` Nikolaus Rath
2012-03-12 20:42 ` J. Bruce Fields
2012-03-12 20:49 ` Chuck Lever
2012-03-12 21:04 ` J. Bruce Fields
2012-03-12 21:14 ` Chuck Lever
2012-03-12 21:27 ` J. Bruce Fields
2012-03-19 16:28 ` J. Bruce Fields
2012-03-19 16:44 ` [nfsv4] " Rick Macklem
2012-03-19 17:06 ` Rick Macklem [this message]
2012-03-19 17:36 ` J. Bruce Fields
2012-03-19 17:47 ` Chuck Lever
2012-03-19 18:24 ` Myklebust, Trond
2012-03-19 18:27 ` J. Bruce Fields
2012-03-19 18:29 ` Chuck Lever
2012-03-19 18:39 ` J. Bruce Fields
2012-03-19 18:42 ` Chuck Lever
2012-03-19 18:54 ` J. Bruce Fields
2012-03-19 19:00 ` Chuck Lever
2012-03-19 19:08 ` J. Bruce Fields
2012-03-19 18:43 ` Nikolaus Rath
2012-03-19 22:25 ` Rick Macklem
2012-03-20 13:29 ` Nikolaus Rath
2012-03-20 13:55 ` Myklebust, Trond
2012-03-20 14:36 ` Nikolaus Rath
2012-03-20 16:49 ` Myklebust, Trond
2012-03-20 14:01 ` Chuck Lever
2012-03-20 14:38 ` Nikolaus Rath
2012-03-20 15:53 ` Chuck Lever
2012-03-19 18:51 ` Nikolaus Rath
2012-03-19 18:56 ` J. Bruce Fields
2012-03-19 22:31 ` Rick Macklem
2012-03-19 18:26 ` Myklebust, Trond
2012-03-12 21:24 ` Nikolaus Rath
2012-03-12 21:27 ` Chuck Lever
2012-03-12 21:38 ` Nikolaus Rath
2012-03-12 21:46 ` Chuck Lever
2012-03-12 21:54 ` Chuck Lever
2012-03-12 21:54 ` Nikolaus Rath
2012-03-12 21:57 ` Myklebust, Trond
2012-03-13 13:23 ` Nikolaus Rath
2012-03-13 14:50 ` Myklebust, Trond
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