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From: "J. Bruce Fields" <bfields@fieldses.org>
To: Steve Dickson <SteveD@redhat.com>
Cc: Jeff Layton <jlayton@redhat.com>,
	linux-nfs@vger.kernel.org, chuck.lever@oracle.com
Subject: Re: [PATCH] rpc.nfsd: mount up nfsdfs is it doesn't appear to be mounted yet
Date: Tue, 31 Aug 2010 12:15:47 -0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20100831161547.GD3071@fieldses.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <4C7D2A20.1040806@RedHat.com>

On Tue, Aug 31, 2010 at 12:13:20PM -0400, Steve Dickson wrote:
> 
> 
> On 08/31/2010 11:51 AM, J. Bruce Fields wrote:
> > On Tue, Aug 31, 2010 at 11:18:19AM -0400, Steve Dickson wrote:
> >>
> >>
> >> On 08/31/2010 11:13 AM, J. Bruce Fields wrote:
> >>> On Tue, Aug 31, 2010 at 11:10:08AM -0400, Jeff Layton wrote:
> >>>> I was just pointing out that checking the return code from the system()
> >>>> call isn't sufficient. Because of the way most people have modprobe set
> >>>> up, it can return an error even though nfsdfs ended up being mounted
> >>>> anyway. Checking for the presence of the file after attempting the
> >>>> mount would be a more reliable test.
> >>>>
> >>>> Assuming we're in agreement there, we have another question to
> >>>> settle...If the mount attempt fails, what should we do about it?
> >>>>
> >>>> With my original patch, we fall back to using nfsctl(). You're
> >>>> suggesting that we should error out there. I'm not opposed to that, but
> >>>> it does mean dropping support for some really old kernels. It also
> >>>> means that we can remove some dead code in rpc.nfsd.
> >>>>
> >>>> OTOH, the fallback might allow nfsd to keep working for some people.
> >>>> Maybe it would be better to just log a scary warning and fall back to
> >>>> using nfsctl() for now.
> >>>>
> >>>> In a couple of releases, we could start returning an error there and
> >>>> rip out the legacy interface code, or compile it out by default and
> >>>> allow people to compile it in via a configure option?
> >>>
> >>> Yes, let's just add the additional mount attempt for now, and figure out
> >>> what to do about the legacy interface as a next step.
> >> When the mount fails, I think we should exit... basically eliminating the
> >> legacy interface code
> > 
> > Maybe.  But as I say, make it two separate steps:
> > 
> > 	1. Add code to attempt the mount.
> But the question comes do to, what do we do when the mount 
> fails? It sounds like you are advocating ignoring the error
> and allow the nfsd threads to be started via the nfsctl(NFSCTL_SVC)
> call... 

Yes.

> I'm advocating that we exit on the mount error, because even thought
> the nfsd threads may be set up correctly, the protocols and versions
> will not be set up correctly because there is no nfsctl() calls to
> set them up correctly... especially with IPV6 enabled... 

Perhaps so.  But that should be done as a *separate* follow-up patch
that is clearly labelled "drop support for kernel versions before
x.y.z".

Dropping backwards compatibility may be a reasonable thing to do, but
it's something that we should be very clear about, and that we should
put in a patch that does that and nothing else.

--b.

  reply	other threads:[~2010-08-31 16:16 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 27+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2010-08-28 11:35 [PATCH] rpc.nfsd: mount up nfsdfs is it doesn't appear to be mounted yet Jeff Layton
2010-08-28 22:29 ` Neil Brown
2010-08-28 22:38 ` Neil Brown
2010-08-29  2:24   ` Jeff Layton
2010-08-29 19:31     ` J. Bruce Fields
2010-08-29 19:37     ` J. Bruce Fields
2010-08-29 22:12       ` Neil Brown
2010-08-30 15:51 ` Steve Dickson
2010-08-30 16:16   ` Jeff Layton
2010-08-30 16:53     ` Steve Dickson
2010-08-30 17:04       ` J. Bruce Fields
2010-08-30 17:22         ` Jeff Layton
2010-08-31 12:14         ` Steve Dickson
2010-08-30 17:48       ` Jeff Layton
2010-08-31 12:24         ` Steve Dickson
2010-08-31 12:43           ` Jeff Layton
2010-08-31 14:49             ` Steve Dickson
2010-08-31 15:10               ` Jeff Layton
2010-08-31 15:13                 ` J. Bruce Fields
2010-08-31 15:18                   ` Steve Dickson
2010-08-31 15:51                     ` J. Bruce Fields
2010-08-31 16:13                       ` Steve Dickson
2010-08-31 16:15                         ` J. Bruce Fields [this message]
2010-08-31 17:18                           ` Steve Dickson
2010-08-31 18:07                             ` J. Bruce Fields
2010-08-31 18:59                               ` Steve Dickson
2010-08-31 19:02                                 ` Jeff Layton

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