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From: Boaz Harrosh <bharrosh@panasas.com>
To: Trond Myklebust <Trond.Myklebust@netapp.com>
Cc: Benny Halevy <bhalevy@panasas.com>,
	"J. Bruce Fields" <bfields@citi.umich.edu>,
	pNFS Mailing List <pnfs@linux-nfs.org>,
	NFS list <linux-nfs@vger.kernel.org>,
	Andy Adamson <andros@netapp.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 2/5] nfsd: Fix independence of a few nfsd related headers
Date: Thu, 22 Oct 2009 10:18:49 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <4AE01569.9000002@panasas.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <1256171298.6809.1.camel-rJ7iovZKK19ZJLDQqaL3InhyD016LWXt@public.gmane.org>

On 10/22/2009 02:28 AM, Trond Myklebust wrote:
> On Wed, 2009-10-21 at 10:14 +0200, Boaz Harrosh wrote:
>> An header should be compilation independent, .i.e pull in
>> any header who's declarations are directly used by this header.
>> And not let users re-include all it's dependencies all over
>> again.
>>
>> [At the end of the day what's the use of a header if it does
>>  not have more then one user?]
> 
> 
> The problem with this is that you quickly end up including the same
> header files over and over and over again as they get pulled in several
> times over by different headers.
> 
> 
> 

What is the problem with that?

two things:
1. it is unavoidable.
2. That's why we invented the #ifndef FOO_H #define FOO_H for.
3. Look at the current mess, to the point that you don't understand why
   the code does not compile, you end up just copy-past the include list
   of that other file, and now actually do end with extra un-needed includes.
   (Don't believe me look at the last patch as proof).
4. So I add to an header a use of a type that now needs a new include.
   All my users do not compile any more. What to do? OK I'll include it so
   not to change all existing users all over again. Now we get a double
   standard. All headers used before any users, must be carried around.
   The late comers are escaped.
5. The opposite of 4. An header is no longer needed. Extra header left at all
   users.

It used to be a problem before me and you have begun programing.
Since then the cpp looks at it's internal structures and will not re-open.
Note that the compiler never sees the second instance, ever.

That said we have no choice of the matter. It is a Kernel style guide. I
should know because I was banged on the head with it a couple of times.
And rightly so.

Come on that was a joke right
Boaz

  parent reply	other threads:[~2009-10-22  8:18 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 31+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2009-10-21  8:10 [PATCHSET 0/5] nfsd: Cleanup nfsd/pnfsd headers and code placment Boaz Harrosh
2009-10-21  8:11 ` [PATCH 1/5] sunrpc: Clean never used include files Boaz Harrosh
2009-10-21 12:54   ` [pnfs] " Boaz Harrosh
2009-10-21 13:26   ` [PATCH version2] " Boaz Harrosh
2009-10-21  8:14 ` [PATCH 2/5] nfsd: Fix independence of a few nfsd related headers Boaz Harrosh
2009-10-22  0:28   ` Trond Myklebust
     [not found]     ` <1256171298.6809.1.camel-rJ7iovZKK19ZJLDQqaL3InhyD016LWXt@public.gmane.org>
2009-10-22  8:18       ` Boaz Harrosh [this message]
2009-10-22 10:14         ` Benny Halevy
2009-10-22 14:02         ` Trond Myklebust
     [not found]           ` <1256220146.6402.23.camel-rJ7iovZKK19ZJLDQqaL3InhyD016LWXt@public.gmane.org>
2009-10-22 15:59             ` Boaz Harrosh
2009-11-04 22:09               ` J. Bruce Fields
2009-11-05  8:48                 ` Boaz Harrosh
2009-11-05 16:33                   ` J. Bruce Fields
2009-11-05 16:41                     ` J. Bruce Fields
2009-11-05 16:59                       ` Trond Myklebust
     [not found]                         ` <1257440343.3114.7.camel-rJ7iovZKK19ZJLDQqaL3InhyD016LWXt@public.gmane.org>
2009-11-05 17:03                           ` J. Bruce Fields
2009-11-05 17:06                             ` Trond Myklebust
2009-11-11 14:57                 ` Boaz Harrosh
2009-11-11 17:36                   ` J. Bruce Fields
2009-11-11 17:59                     ` Boaz Harrosh
2009-11-11 18:06                       ` J. Bruce Fields
2009-11-12 10:28   ` [pnfs] " Boaz Harrosh
2009-11-12 10:35     ` Trond Myklebust
     [not found]       ` <1258022133.2973.5.camel-rJ7iovZKK19ZJLDQqaL3InhyD016LWXt@public.gmane.org>
2009-11-12 12:48         ` Boaz Harrosh
2009-11-12 13:07           ` Benny Halevy
2009-11-12 13:36           ` Trond Myklebust
     [not found]             ` <1258033010.2968.12.camel-rJ7iovZKK19ZJLDQqaL3InhyD016LWXt@public.gmane.org>
2009-11-12 14:45               ` Boaz Harrosh
2009-10-21  8:14 ` [PATCH 3/5] nfsd: Fix independence of linux/nfsd/ headers Boaz Harrosh
2009-10-21  8:15 ` [PATCH 4/5] SQUASHME pnfsd: Move pnfsd code out of nfs4state.c/h Boaz Harrosh
2009-11-03  6:30   ` Benny Halevy
2009-10-21  8:16 ` [PATCH 5/5] nfsd: Remove lots of un-needed includes Boaz Harrosh

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