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From: Trond Myklebust <trondmy@hammerspace.com>
To: "jlayton@kernel.org" <jlayton@kernel.org>,
	"cperl@janestreet.com" <cperl@janestreet.com>
Cc: "linux-nfs@vger.kernel.org" <linux-nfs@vger.kernel.org>,
	"willy@infradead.org" <willy@infradead.org>
Subject: Re: Too many ENOSPC errors
Date: Mon, 12 Jun 2023 19:04:58 +0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <5f3f2565aa31da52cd7b4359cba078e1990d44e7.camel@hammerspace.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <71b3ff942fdf6f070f6cd59f29e04081d3f94c38.camel@kernel.org>

On Mon, 2023-06-12 at 13:30 -0400, Jeff Layton wrote:
> On Mon, 2023-06-12 at 11:58 -0400, Jeff Layton wrote:
> 
> > 
> > Got it: I think I see what's happening. filemap_sample_wb_err just
> > calls
> > errseq_sample, which does this:
> > 
> > errseq_t errseq_sample(errseq_t
> > *eseq)                                                             
> > {                                                                  
> >                                  
> >         errseq_t old =
> > READ_ONCE(*eseq);                                                  
> >           
> >                                                                    
> >                                  
> >         /* If nobody has seen this error yet, then we can be the
> > first. */                          
> >         if (!(old &
> > ERRSEQ_SEEN))                                                      
> >              
> >                 old =
> > 0;                                                                 
> >            
> >         return
> > old;                                                               
> >                   
> > }                                                          
> > 
> > Because no one has seen that error yet (ERRSEQ_SEEN is clear), the
> > write
> > ends up being the first to see it and it gets back a 0, even though
> > the
> > error happened before the sample.
> > 
> > The above behavior is what we want for the sample that we do at
> > open()
> > time, but not what's needed for this use-case. We need a new helper
> > that
> > samples the value regardless of whether it has already been seen:
> > 
> > errseq_t errseq_peek(errseq_t *eseq)
> > {
> >         return READ_ONCE(*eseq);
> > }
> > 
> > ...but we'll also need to fix up errseq_check to handle differences
> > between the SEEN bit.
> > 
> > I'll see if I can spin up a patch for that. Stay tuned.
> 
> This may not be fixable with the way that NFS is trying to use
> errseq_t.
> 
> The fundamental problem is that we need to mark the errseq_t in the
> mapping as SEEN when we sample it, to ensure that a later error is
> recorded and not ignored.
> 
> But...if the error hasn't been reported yet and we mark it SEEN here,
> and then a later error doesn't occur, then a later open won't have
> its
> errseq_t set to 0, and that unseen error could be lost.
> 
> It's a bit of a pity: as originally envisioned, the errseq_t
> mechanism
> would provide for this sort of use case, but we added this patch not
> long after the original code went in, and it changed those semantics:
> 
>     b4678df184b3 errseq: Always report a writeback error once
> 
> I don't see a good way to do this using the current errseq_t
> mechanism,
> given these competing needs. I'll keep thinking about it though.
> Maybe
> we could add some sort of store and forward mechanism for fsync on
> NFS?
> That could get rather complex though.
> 
> Cheers,

Does RHEL-8 have commit 6c984083ec24, 064109db53ec, d95b26650e86,
e6005436f6cc, 9641d9bc9b75, and cea9ba7239dc applied?

-- 
Trond Myklebust
Linux NFS client maintainer, Hammerspace
trond.myklebust@hammerspace.com



  parent reply	other threads:[~2023-06-12 19:05 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 14+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2023-06-08 17:05 Too many ENOSPC errors Chris Perl
2023-06-08 20:50 ` Jeff Layton
2023-06-12 14:27   ` Chris Perl
2023-06-12 15:58     ` Jeff Layton
2023-06-12 17:30       ` Jeff Layton
2023-06-12 17:49         ` Chris Perl
2023-06-12 19:17           ` Jeff Layton
2023-06-12 19:53             ` Trond Myklebust
2023-06-12 20:20               ` Jeff Layton
2023-06-12 21:54                 ` Trond Myklebust
2024-05-15 11:59                 ` Tee Hao Wei
2023-06-12 19:04         ` Trond Myklebust [this message]
2023-06-12 19:21           ` Jeff Layton
2023-06-12 19:59             ` Benjamin Coddington

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