From: Trond Myklebust <trondmy@hammerspace.com>
To: "jlayton@kernel.org" <jlayton@kernel.org>,
"cperl@janestreet.com" <cperl@janestreet.com>
Cc: "linux-nfs@vger.kernel.org" <linux-nfs@vger.kernel.org>,
"willy@infradead.org" <willy@infradead.org>
Subject: Re: Too many ENOSPC errors
Date: Mon, 12 Jun 2023 19:04:58 +0000 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <5f3f2565aa31da52cd7b4359cba078e1990d44e7.camel@hammerspace.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <71b3ff942fdf6f070f6cd59f29e04081d3f94c38.camel@kernel.org>
On Mon, 2023-06-12 at 13:30 -0400, Jeff Layton wrote:
> On Mon, 2023-06-12 at 11:58 -0400, Jeff Layton wrote:
>
> >
> > Got it: I think I see what's happening. filemap_sample_wb_err just
> > calls
> > errseq_sample, which does this:
> >
> > errseq_t errseq_sample(errseq_t
> > *eseq)
> > {
> >
> > errseq_t old =
> > READ_ONCE(*eseq);
> >
> >
> >
> > /* If nobody has seen this error yet, then we can be the
> > first. */
> > if (!(old &
> > ERRSEQ_SEEN))
> >
> > old =
> > 0;
> >
> > return
> > old;
> >
> > }
> >
> > Because no one has seen that error yet (ERRSEQ_SEEN is clear), the
> > write
> > ends up being the first to see it and it gets back a 0, even though
> > the
> > error happened before the sample.
> >
> > The above behavior is what we want for the sample that we do at
> > open()
> > time, but not what's needed for this use-case. We need a new helper
> > that
> > samples the value regardless of whether it has already been seen:
> >
> > errseq_t errseq_peek(errseq_t *eseq)
> > {
> > return READ_ONCE(*eseq);
> > }
> >
> > ...but we'll also need to fix up errseq_check to handle differences
> > between the SEEN bit.
> >
> > I'll see if I can spin up a patch for that. Stay tuned.
>
> This may not be fixable with the way that NFS is trying to use
> errseq_t.
>
> The fundamental problem is that we need to mark the errseq_t in the
> mapping as SEEN when we sample it, to ensure that a later error is
> recorded and not ignored.
>
> But...if the error hasn't been reported yet and we mark it SEEN here,
> and then a later error doesn't occur, then a later open won't have
> its
> errseq_t set to 0, and that unseen error could be lost.
>
> It's a bit of a pity: as originally envisioned, the errseq_t
> mechanism
> would provide for this sort of use case, but we added this patch not
> long after the original code went in, and it changed those semantics:
>
> b4678df184b3 errseq: Always report a writeback error once
>
> I don't see a good way to do this using the current errseq_t
> mechanism,
> given these competing needs. I'll keep thinking about it though.
> Maybe
> we could add some sort of store and forward mechanism for fsync on
> NFS?
> That could get rather complex though.
>
> Cheers,
Does RHEL-8 have commit 6c984083ec24, 064109db53ec, d95b26650e86,
e6005436f6cc, 9641d9bc9b75, and cea9ba7239dc applied?
--
Trond Myklebust
Linux NFS client maintainer, Hammerspace
trond.myklebust@hammerspace.com
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2023-06-12 19:05 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 14+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2023-06-08 17:05 Too many ENOSPC errors Chris Perl
2023-06-08 20:50 ` Jeff Layton
2023-06-12 14:27 ` Chris Perl
2023-06-12 15:58 ` Jeff Layton
2023-06-12 17:30 ` Jeff Layton
2023-06-12 17:49 ` Chris Perl
2023-06-12 19:17 ` Jeff Layton
2023-06-12 19:53 ` Trond Myklebust
2023-06-12 20:20 ` Jeff Layton
2023-06-12 21:54 ` Trond Myklebust
2024-05-15 11:59 ` Tee Hao Wei
2023-06-12 19:04 ` Trond Myklebust [this message]
2023-06-12 19:21 ` Jeff Layton
2023-06-12 19:59 ` Benjamin Coddington
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