From: Jeff Layton <jlayton@kernel.org>
To: Trond Myklebust <trondmy@hammerspace.com>,
"cperl@janestreet.com" <cperl@janestreet.com>
Cc: "linux-nfs@vger.kernel.org" <linux-nfs@vger.kernel.org>,
"willy@infradead.org" <willy@infradead.org>
Subject: Re: Too many ENOSPC errors
Date: Mon, 12 Jun 2023 15:21:25 -0400 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <efed50ed4c1487703436139cd26b37ca536031ef.camel@kernel.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <5f3f2565aa31da52cd7b4359cba078e1990d44e7.camel@hammerspace.com>
On Mon, 2023-06-12 at 19:04 +0000, Trond Myklebust wrote:
> On Mon, 2023-06-12 at 13:30 -0400, Jeff Layton wrote:
> > On Mon, 2023-06-12 at 11:58 -0400, Jeff Layton wrote:
> >
> > >
> > > Got it: I think I see what's happening. filemap_sample_wb_err just
> > > calls
> > > errseq_sample, which does this:
> > >
> > > errseq_t errseq_sample(errseq_t
> > > *eseq)
> > > {
> > >
> > > errseq_t old =
> > > READ_ONCE(*eseq);
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > /* If nobody has seen this error yet, then we can be the
> > > first. */
> > > if (!(old &
> > > ERRSEQ_SEEN))
> > >
> > > old =
> > > 0;
> > >
> > > return
> > > old;
> > >
> > > }
> > >
> > > Because no one has seen that error yet (ERRSEQ_SEEN is clear), the
> > > write
> > > ends up being the first to see it and it gets back a 0, even though
> > > the
> > > error happened before the sample.
> > >
> > > The above behavior is what we want for the sample that we do at
> > > open()
> > > time, but not what's needed for this use-case. We need a new helper
> > > that
> > > samples the value regardless of whether it has already been seen:
> > >
> > > errseq_t errseq_peek(errseq_t *eseq)
> > > {
> > > return READ_ONCE(*eseq);
> > > }
> > >
> > > ...but we'll also need to fix up errseq_check to handle differences
> > > between the SEEN bit.
> > >
> > > I'll see if I can spin up a patch for that. Stay tuned.
> >
> > This may not be fixable with the way that NFS is trying to use
> > errseq_t.
> >
> > The fundamental problem is that we need to mark the errseq_t in the
> > mapping as SEEN when we sample it, to ensure that a later error is
> > recorded and not ignored.
> >
> > But...if the error hasn't been reported yet and we mark it SEEN here,
> > and then a later error doesn't occur, then a later open won't have
> > its
> > errseq_t set to 0, and that unseen error could be lost.
> >
> > It's a bit of a pity: as originally envisioned, the errseq_t
> > mechanism
> > would provide for this sort of use case, but we added this patch not
> > long after the original code went in, and it changed those semantics:
> >
> > b4678df184b3 errseq: Always report a writeback error once
> >
> > I don't see a good way to do this using the current errseq_t
> > mechanism,
> > given these competing needs. I'll keep thinking about it though.
> > Maybe
> > we could add some sort of store and forward mechanism for fsync on
> > NFS?
> > That could get rather complex though.
> >
> > Cheers,
>
> Does RHEL-8 have commit 6c984083ec24, 064109db53ec, d95b26650e86,
> e6005436f6cc, 9641d9bc9b75, and cea9ba7239dc applied?
>
Ben is working on backporting those as we speak. Hopefully we can get
RHEL8's state closer to where upstream is.
I'm also working on a patch for upstream that should give Chris the
expected behavior in this test.
--
Jeff Layton <jlayton@kernel.org>
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2023-06-12 19:21 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 14+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2023-06-08 17:05 Too many ENOSPC errors Chris Perl
2023-06-08 20:50 ` Jeff Layton
2023-06-12 14:27 ` Chris Perl
2023-06-12 15:58 ` Jeff Layton
2023-06-12 17:30 ` Jeff Layton
2023-06-12 17:49 ` Chris Perl
2023-06-12 19:17 ` Jeff Layton
2023-06-12 19:53 ` Trond Myklebust
2023-06-12 20:20 ` Jeff Layton
2023-06-12 21:54 ` Trond Myklebust
2024-05-15 11:59 ` Tee Hao Wei
2023-06-12 19:04 ` Trond Myklebust
2023-06-12 19:21 ` Jeff Layton [this message]
2023-06-12 19:59 ` Benjamin Coddington
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