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From: Christoph Hellwig <hch@infradead.org>
To: Mike Snitzer <snitzer@kernel.org>
Cc: linux-nfs@vger.kernel.org, Jeff Layton <jlayton@kernel.org>,
	Chuck Lever <chuck.lever@oracle.com>,
	Anna Schumaker <anna@kernel.org>,
	Trond Myklebust <trondmy@hammerspace.com>,
	NeilBrown <neilb@suse.de>,
	snitzer@hammerspace.com
Subject: Re: [PATCH v11 00/20] nfs/nfsd: add support for localio
Date: Wed, 3 Jul 2024 08:16:00 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <ZoVrMBmOS9BalBXO@infradead.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20240702162831.91604-1-snitzer@kernel.org>

I've stated looking a bit at the code, and the architectural model
confuses me more than a bit.

A first thing that would be very helpful is an actual problem statement.
The only mention of a concrete use case is about containers, implying
that this about a client in one container/namespace with the server
or the servers in another containers/namespace.  Is that the main use
case, are there others?

I kinda deduct from that that the client and server probably do not
have the same view and access permissions to the underlying file
systems?  As this would defeat the use of NFS I suspect that is the
case, but it should probably be stated clearly somewhere.

Going from there I don't understand why we need multiple layers of
server bypass.  The normal way to do this in NFSv4 is to use pNFS
layout.

I.e. you add a pnfs localio layout that just does local reads
and writes for the I/O path.  We'd still need a way to find a good
in-kernel way to get the file structure, but compared to the two
separate layers of bypasses in the current code it should be
significantly simpler.

  parent reply	other threads:[~2024-07-03 15:16 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 77+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2024-07-02 16:28 [PATCH v11 00/20] nfs/nfsd: add support for localio Mike Snitzer
2024-07-02 16:28 ` [PATCH v11 01/20] SUNRPC: add rpcauth_map_to_svc_cred_local Mike Snitzer
2024-07-02 16:28 ` [PATCH v11 02/20] nfs: factor out {encode,decode}_opaque_fixed to nfs_xdr.h Mike Snitzer
2024-07-02 16:28 ` [PATCH v11 03/20] nfs_common: add NFS LOCALIO auxiliary protocol enablement Mike Snitzer
2024-07-02 16:28 ` [PATCH v11 04/20] nfsd: add "localio" support Mike Snitzer
2024-07-02 16:28 ` [PATCH v11 05/20] nfsd: add Kconfig options to allow localio to be enabled Mike Snitzer
2024-07-02 16:28 ` [PATCH v11 06/20] nfsd: manage netns reference in nfsd_open_local_fh Mike Snitzer
2024-07-02 16:28 ` [PATCH v11 07/20] nfsd: use percpu_ref to interlock nfsd_destroy_serv and nfsd_open_local_fh Mike Snitzer
2024-07-02 16:28 ` [PATCH v11 08/20] nfsd: implement server support for NFS_LOCALIO_PROGRAM Mike Snitzer
2024-07-02 16:28 ` [PATCH v11 09/20] SUNRPC: replace program list with program array Mike Snitzer
2024-07-02 16:28 ` [PATCH v11 10/20] nfs: pass nfs_client to nfs_initiate_pgio Mike Snitzer
2024-07-02 16:28 ` [PATCH v11 11/20] nfs: pass descriptor thru nfs_initiate_pgio path Mike Snitzer
2024-07-02 16:28 ` [PATCH v11 12/20] nfs: pass struct file to nfs_init_pgio and nfs_init_commit Mike Snitzer
2024-07-02 16:28 ` [PATCH v11 13/20] nfs: add "localio" support Mike Snitzer
2024-07-02 16:28 ` [PATCH v11 14/20] nfs: fix nfs_localio_vfs_getattr() to properly support v4 Mike Snitzer
2024-07-02 16:28 ` [PATCH v11 15/20] nfs: enable localio for non-pNFS I/O Mike Snitzer
2024-07-02 16:28 ` [PATCH v11 16/20] pnfs/flexfiles: enable localio for flexfiles I/O Mike Snitzer
2024-07-02 16:28 ` [PATCH v11 17/20] SUNRPC: remove call_allocate() BUG_ON if p_arglen=0 to allow RPC with void arg Mike Snitzer
2024-07-02 16:28 ` [PATCH v11 18/20] nfs/localio: use dedicated workqueues for filesystem read and write Mike Snitzer
2024-07-02 16:28 ` [PATCH v11 19/20] nfs: implement client support for NFS_LOCALIO_PROGRAM Mike Snitzer
2024-07-02 16:28 ` [PATCH v11 20/20] nfs: add Documentation/filesystems/nfs/localio.rst Mike Snitzer
2024-07-02 18:06 ` [PATCH v11 00/20] nfs/nfsd: add support for localio Chuck Lever III
2024-07-02 18:32   ` Mike Snitzer
2024-07-02 20:10     ` Chuck Lever III
2024-07-03  0:57       ` Mike Snitzer
2024-07-03  0:52     ` NeilBrown
2024-07-03  1:13       ` Mike Snitzer
2024-07-03  5:04   ` Christoph Hellwig
2024-07-03  8:52     ` Mike Snitzer
2024-07-03 14:16       ` Christoph Hellwig
2024-07-03 15:11         ` Mike Snitzer
2024-07-03 15:18           ` Christoph Hellwig
2024-07-03 15:24             ` Chuck Lever III
2024-07-03 15:29               ` Christoph Hellwig
2024-07-03 15:36               ` Mike Snitzer
2024-07-03 17:06                 ` Jeff Layton
2024-07-04  6:00                   ` Christoph Hellwig
2024-07-04 18:31                     ` Mike Snitzer
2024-07-05  5:18                       ` Christoph Hellwig
2024-07-05 13:35                         ` Chuck Lever III
2024-07-05 13:39                           ` Christoph Hellwig
2024-07-05 14:15                           ` Mike Snitzer
2024-07-05 14:18                             ` Christoph Hellwig
2024-07-05 14:36                               ` Mike Snitzer
2024-07-05 14:59                                 ` Chuck Lever III
2024-07-06  3:58                                   ` Mike Snitzer
2024-07-06  5:52                                     ` NeilBrown
2024-07-06 13:05                                       ` "why NFSv3?" [was: Re: [PATCH v11 00/20] nfs/nfsd: add support for localio] Mike Snitzer
2024-07-06  5:58                                     ` [PATCH v11 00/20] nfs/nfsd: add support for localio Christoph Hellwig
2024-07-06 13:12                                       ` Mike Snitzer
2024-07-08  9:46                                         ` Christoph Hellwig
2024-07-08 12:55                                           ` Mike Snitzer
2024-07-06 16:58                                     ` Chuck Lever III
2024-07-07  0:42                                       ` Mike Snitzer
2024-07-05 18:59                                 ` Jeff Layton
2024-07-05 22:08                         ` NeilBrown
2024-07-06  6:02                           ` Christoph Hellwig
2024-07-06  6:37                             ` NeilBrown
2024-07-06  6:42                               ` Christoph Hellwig
2024-07-06 17:15                                 ` Chuck Lever III
2024-07-08  4:10                                   ` NeilBrown
2024-07-08 14:41                                     ` Chuck Lever III
2024-07-08  9:40                                   ` Christoph Hellwig
2024-07-08  4:03                                 ` NeilBrown
2024-07-08  9:37                                   ` Christoph Hellwig
2024-07-10  0:10                                     ` NeilBrown
2024-07-03 17:19                 ` Chuck Lever III
2024-07-03 19:04                   ` Mike Snitzer
2024-07-04  5:55                     ` Christoph Hellwig
2024-07-03 21:35                   ` NeilBrown
2024-07-04  6:01                 ` Christoph Hellwig
2024-07-04 10:13                   ` Jeff Layton
2024-07-03 15:26       ` Chuck Lever III
2024-07-03 15:37         ` Mike Snitzer
2024-07-03 15:16 ` Christoph Hellwig [this message]
2024-07-03 15:28   ` Mike Snitzer
2024-07-04  5:49     ` Christoph Hellwig

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