From: Mike Snitzer <snitzer@kernel.org>
To: Christoph Hellwig <hch@infradead.org>
Cc: Jeff Layton <jlayton@kernel.org>,
Chuck Lever <chuck.lever@oracle.com>,
linux-nfs@vger.kernel.org, linux-fsdevel@vger.kernel.org,
Jens Axboe <axboe@kernel.dk>,
david.flynn@hammerspace.com
Subject: Re: need SUNRPC TCP to receive into aligned pages [was: Re: [PATCH 1/6] NFSD: add the ability to enable use of RWF_DONTCACHE for all IO]
Date: Mon, 16 Jun 2025 12:07:42 -0400 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <aFBBToft6H-r51TH@kernel.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <aFAOLAOsWngZV_aL@infradead.org>
On Mon, Jun 16, 2025 at 05:29:32AM -0700, Christoph Hellwig wrote:
> On Fri, Jun 13, 2025 at 05:23:48AM -0400, Mike Snitzer wrote:
> > Which in practice has proven a hard requirement for O_DIRECT in my
> > testing
>
> What fails if you don't page align the memory?
>
> > But if you looking at patch 5 in this series:
> > https://lore.kernel.org/linux-nfs/20250610205737.63343-6-snitzer@kernel.org/
> >
> > I added fs/nfsd/vfs.c:is_dio_aligned(), which is basically a tweaked
> > ditto of fs/btrfs/direct-io.c:check_direct_IO():
>
> No idea why btrfs still has this, but it's not a general requirement
> from the block layer or other file system. You just need to be
> aligned to the dma alignment in the queue limits, which for most NVMe,
> SCSI or ATA devices reports a dword alignment. Some of the more
> obscure drivers might require more alignment, or just report it due to
> copy and paste.
Yeah, should probably be fixed and the rest of filesystems audited.
> > What I found is that unless SUNRPC TPC stored the WRITE payload in a
> > page-aligned boundary then iov_iter_alignment() would fail.
>
> iov_iter_alignment would fail, or yout check based on it? The latter
> will fail, but it doesn't check anything that matters :)
>
The latter, the check based on iov_iter_alignment() failed. I
understand your point.
Thankfully I can confirm that dword alignment is all that is needed on
modern hardware, just showing my work:
I retested a 512K write payload that is aligned to the XFS bdev's
logical_block_size (512b) fails when I skip the iov_iter_alignment()
check at a high level.
Because it fails in fs/iomap/direct-io.c:iomap_dio_bio_iter() with
this check:
if ((pos | length) & (bdev_logical_block_size(iomap->bdev) - 1) ||
!bdev_iter_is_aligned(iomap->bdev, dio->submit.iter))
return -EINVAL;
Because:
static inline bool bdev_iter_is_aligned(struct block_device *bdev,
struct iov_iter *iter)
{
return iov_iter_is_aligned(iter, bdev_dma_alignment(bdev),
bdev_logical_block_size(bdev) - 1);
}
and because bdev_dma_alignment for my particular test bdev is 511 :(
But that's OK... my test bdev is a bad example (archaic VMware vSphere
provided SCSI device): it doesn't reflect expected modern hardware.
But I just slapped together a test pmem blockdevice (memory backed,
using memmap=6G!18G) and it too has dma_alignment=511
I do have access to a KVM guest with a virtio_scsi root bdev that has
dma_alignment=3
I also just confirmed that modern NVMe devices on another testbed also
have dma_alignment=3, whew...
I'd like NFSD to be able to know if its bvec is dma-aligned, before
issuing DIO writes to underlying XFS. AFAIK I can do that simply by
checking the STATX_DIOALIGN provided dio_mem_align...
Thanks,
Mike
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2025-06-16 16:07 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 75+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2025-06-10 20:57 [PATCH 0/6] NFSD: add enable-dontcache and initially use it to add DIO support Mike Snitzer
2025-06-10 20:57 ` [PATCH 1/6] NFSD: add the ability to enable use of RWF_DONTCACHE for all IO Mike Snitzer
2025-06-11 6:57 ` Christoph Hellwig
2025-06-11 10:44 ` Mike Snitzer
2025-06-11 13:04 ` Jeff Layton
2025-06-11 13:56 ` Chuck Lever
2025-06-11 14:31 ` Chuck Lever
2025-06-11 19:18 ` Mike Snitzer
2025-06-11 20:29 ` Jeff Layton
2025-06-11 21:36 ` need SUNRPC TCP to receive into aligned pages [was: Re: [PATCH 1/6] NFSD: add the ability to enable use of RWF_DONTCACHE for all IO] Mike Snitzer
2025-06-12 10:28 ` Jeff Layton
2025-06-12 11:28 ` Jeff Layton
2025-06-12 13:28 ` Chuck Lever
2025-06-12 14:17 ` Benjamin Coddington
2025-06-12 15:56 ` Mike Snitzer
2025-06-12 15:58 ` Chuck Lever
2025-06-12 16:12 ` Mike Snitzer
2025-06-12 16:32 ` Chuck Lever
2025-06-13 5:39 ` Christoph Hellwig
2025-06-12 16:22 ` Jeff Layton
2025-06-13 5:46 ` Christoph Hellwig
2025-06-13 9:23 ` Mike Snitzer
2025-06-13 13:02 ` Jeff Layton
2025-06-16 12:35 ` Christoph Hellwig
2025-06-16 12:29 ` Christoph Hellwig
2025-06-16 16:07 ` Mike Snitzer [this message]
2025-06-17 4:37 ` Christoph Hellwig
2025-06-17 20:26 ` Mike Snitzer
2025-06-17 22:23 ` [RFC PATCH] lib/iov_iter: remove piecewise bvec length checking in iov_iter_aligned_bvec [was: Re: need SUNRPC TCP to receive into aligned pages] Mike Snitzer
2025-07-03 0:12 ` need SUNRPC TCP to receive into aligned pages [was: Re: [PATCH 1/6] NFSD: add the ability to enable use of RWF_DONTCACHE for all IO] NeilBrown
2025-06-12 7:13 ` [PATCH 1/6] NFSD: add the ability to enable use of RWF_DONTCACHE for all IO Christoph Hellwig
2025-06-12 13:15 ` Chuck Lever
2025-06-12 13:21 ` Chuck Lever
2025-06-12 16:00 ` Mike Snitzer
2025-06-16 13:32 ` Chuck Lever
2025-06-16 16:10 ` Mike Snitzer
2025-06-17 17:22 ` Mike Snitzer
2025-06-17 17:31 ` Chuck Lever
2025-06-19 20:19 ` Mike Snitzer
2025-06-30 14:50 ` Chuck Lever
2025-07-04 19:46 ` Mike Snitzer
2025-07-04 19:49 ` Chuck Lever
2025-06-10 20:57 ` [PATCH 2/6] NFSD: filecache: add STATX_DIOALIGN and STATX_DIO_READ_ALIGN support Mike Snitzer
2025-06-10 20:57 ` [PATCH 3/6] NFSD: pass nfsd_file to nfsd_iter_read() Mike Snitzer
2025-06-10 20:57 ` [PATCH 4/6] fs: introduce RWF_DIRECT to allow using O_DIRECT on a per-IO basis Mike Snitzer
2025-06-11 6:58 ` Christoph Hellwig
2025-06-11 10:51 ` Mike Snitzer
2025-06-11 14:17 ` Chuck Lever
2025-06-12 7:15 ` Christoph Hellwig
2025-06-10 20:57 ` [PATCH 5/6] NFSD: leverage DIO alignment to selectively issue O_DIRECT reads and writes Mike Snitzer
2025-06-11 7:00 ` Christoph Hellwig
2025-06-11 12:23 ` Mike Snitzer
2025-06-11 13:30 ` Jeff Layton
2025-06-12 7:22 ` Christoph Hellwig
2025-06-12 7:23 ` Christoph Hellwig
2025-06-11 14:42 ` Chuck Lever
2025-06-11 15:07 ` Jeff Layton
2025-06-11 15:11 ` Chuck Lever
2025-06-11 15:44 ` Jeff Layton
2025-06-11 20:51 ` Mike Snitzer
2025-06-12 7:32 ` Christoph Hellwig
2025-06-12 7:28 ` Christoph Hellwig
2025-06-12 7:25 ` Christoph Hellwig
2025-06-10 20:57 ` [PATCH 6/6] NFSD: issue READs using O_DIRECT even if IO is misaligned Mike Snitzer
2025-06-11 12:55 ` [PATCH 0/6] NFSD: add enable-dontcache and initially use it to add DIO support Jeff Layton
2025-06-12 7:39 ` Christoph Hellwig
2025-06-12 20:37 ` Mike Snitzer
2025-06-13 5:31 ` Christoph Hellwig
2025-06-11 14:16 ` Chuck Lever
2025-06-11 18:02 ` Mike Snitzer
2025-06-11 19:06 ` Chuck Lever
2025-06-11 19:58 ` Mike Snitzer
2025-06-12 13:46 ` Chuck Lever
2025-06-12 19:08 ` Mike Snitzer
2025-06-12 20:17 ` Chuck Lever
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