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From: Aaron Wiebe <epiphani@gmail.com>
To: Tom Talpey <tmtalpey@gmail.com>,
	Frank Steiner
	<fsteiner-mail1-G0GEQqhI7DhYiKXMg8wJIg@public.gmane.org>,
	Leonardo Chiquitto <leonardo.lists@gmail.com>,
	nfs@lists.sourceforge.net
Subject: Re: [NFS] nfs-over-tcp still needs udp ports? (SLES 11)
Date: Thu, 7 May 2009 12:08:17 -0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <e7ca40f70905070908p595c1d23gef745a122ae09caa@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <4a02ffdf.1ac1f10a.637d.ffffbc3a-ATjtLOhZ0NVl57MIdRCFDg@public.gmane.org>

On Thu, May 7, 2009 at 11:35 AM, Tom Talpey <tmtalpey@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> There is one small caveat to using mountproto=tcp through firewalls:
> while the mount will succeed, there are some side protocol exchanges
> which may not.
>
> In particular, if you do NLM file locking, there is a server callback (NLM
> "granted") which the server may choose to issue via UDP. If this callback
> is not seen by the client due to firewall blocking, there may be a 30-second
> pause before a client retry unblocks the caller.
>
> Also, the NSM (status monitor) exchanges are often performed via UDP.
> Again, if you are using NLM and the server reboots, the client may not
> become aware of this promptly, and lock reclaim will be affected.

Sorry for the slight threadjack, but a question along those lines...

My understanding is that currently portmap will not bind any UDP NLM
listeners unless there are UDP mounts on the machine.  I know there
are servers out there that will always speak NLM over UDP
(netapp/ontap being the prominent one), and as a result there can be
problems without firewalls.  If servers are out there that will speak
NLM over UDP regardless of the mount itself, shouldn't we be binding
NLM/UDP regardless of the mount transport?

(Or did I miss this change being reverted a while back?)

-Aaron

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  parent reply	other threads:[~2009-05-07 16:10 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 20+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2009-05-07 12:57 [NFS] nfs-over-tcp still needs udp ports? (SLES 11) Frank Steiner
2009-05-07 13:34 ` Leonardo Chiquitto
     [not found]   ` <c2d0b6ec0905070634p6888226cx5b2c8abae51cd1be-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
2009-05-07 15:26     ` Frank Steiner
     [not found]       ` <4A02FDC3.9090709-G0GEQqhI7DhYiKXMg8wJIg@public.gmane.org>
2009-05-07 15:35         ` Tom Talpey
     [not found]           ` <4a02ffdf.1ac1f10a.637d.ffffbc3a-ATjtLOhZ0NVl57MIdRCFDg@public.gmane.org>
2009-05-07 16:08             ` Aaron Wiebe [this message]
     [not found]               ` <e7ca40f70905070908p595c1d23gef745a122ae09caa-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
2009-05-07 16:42                 ` Chuck Lever
2009-05-07 17:08                   ` Tom Talpey
     [not found]                     ` <4a031594.1c1d640a.6d45.5fed-ATjtLOhZ0NVl57MIdRCFDg@public.gmane.org>
2009-05-07 18:08                       ` Aaron Wiebe
2009-05-08  6:03             ` Frank Steiner
     [not found]               ` <4A03CB1C.7020703-G0GEQqhI7DhYiKXMg8wJIg@public.gmane.org>
2009-05-08 12:27                 ` Trond Myklebust
2009-05-11 14:59                 ` Tom Talpey
     [not found]                   ` <4a083d44.85c2f10a.4cf7.ffff85fb-ATjtLOhZ0NVl57MIdRCFDg@public.gmane.org>
2009-05-11 16:59                     ` Chuck Lever
2009-05-12 13:51                     ` Frank Steiner
2009-05-15  6:38                     ` Frank Steiner
     [not found]                       ` <4A0D0DFE.6040108-G0GEQqhI7DhYiKXMg8wJIg@public.gmane.org>
2009-05-15 13:48                         ` Tom Talpey
     [not found]                           ` <4a0d72a6.c5c2f10a.368f.5cc5-ATjtLOhZ0NVl57MIdRCFDg@public.gmane.org>
2009-05-18  9:18                             ` Frank Steiner
     [not found]                               ` <4A1127CE.5030701-G0GEQqhI7DhYiKXMg8wJIg@public.gmane.org>
2009-05-18 12:53                                 ` Tom Talpey
     [not found]                                   ` <4a115a4c.47c1f10a.53d0.ffff96cc-ATjtLOhZ0NVl57MIdRCFDg@public.gmane.org>
2009-05-22 11:05                                     ` Frank Steiner
     [not found] ` <4A02DAA8.6050005-G0GEQqhI7DhYiKXMg8wJIg@public.gmane.org>
2009-05-07 13:52   ` Trond Myklebust
     [not found]     ` <1241704326.4884.10.camel-rJ7iovZKK19ZJLDQqaL3InhyD016LWXt@public.gmane.org>
2009-05-07 14:03       ` Peter Åstrand

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