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From: Andreas Rohner <andreas.rohner-hi6Y0CQ0nG0@public.gmane.org>
To: Vyacheslav Dubeyko <slava-yeENwD64cLxBDgjK7y7TUQ@public.gmane.org>
Cc: linux-nilfs-u79uwXL29TY76Z2rM5mHXA@public.gmane.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH 1/1] nilfs2: add mount option that reduces super block writes
Date: Thu, 30 Jan 2014 07:52:44 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <52E9F6BC.5090205@gmx.net> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <8DBE8E18-F678-44B0-A6A6-5AFEC227AA86-yeENwD64cLxBDgjK7y7TUQ@public.gmane.org>

On 2014-01-30 08:44, Vyacheslav Dubeyko wrote:
> 
> On Jan 30, 2014, at 9:02 AM, Andreas Rohner wrote:
> 
>> Hi Vyacheslav,
>>
>> On 2014-01-30 07:36, Vyacheslav Dubeyko wrote:
>>> Hi Andreas,
>>>
>>> On Jan 30, 2014, at 5:47 AM, Andreas Rohner wrote:
>>>
>>>> This patch introduces a mount option bad_ftl that disables the
>>>> periodic overwrites of the super block to make the file system better
>>>> suitable for bad flash memory with a bad FTL. The super block is only
>>>> written at umount time. So if there is a power outage the file system
>>>> needs to be recovered by a linear scan of all segment summary blocks.
>>>>
>>>> The linear scan is only necessary if the file system wasn't umounted
>>>> properly. So the normal mount time is not affected.
>>>>
>>>> Signed-off-by: Andreas Rohner <andreas.rohner-hi6Y0CQ0nG0@public.gmane.org>
>>>> ---
>>>> fs/nilfs2/segbuf.c        |  3 ++-
>>>> fs/nilfs2/segment.c       |  3 ++-
>>>> fs/nilfs2/super.c         | 10 +++++++--
>>>> fs/nilfs2/the_nilfs.c     | 54 ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++---
>>>> include/linux/nilfs2_fs.h |  4 +++-
>>>> 5 files changed, 66 insertions(+), 8 deletions(-)
>>>>
>>>
>>> As far as I can judge, conceptually it is simply rollback of the fix [1].
>>
>> The normal recovery mode checks all partial segments and computes the
>> checksum over all the data. That takes significantly longer than my
>> approach of just checking one block per segment, namely the segment
>> summary block.
>>
> 
> I don't think that your suggestion changes situation significantly.
> Because in the issue [1] you can go through the whole volume in the really
> bad environment. Maybe you will mount volume 30 minutes instead of 1 hour
> with technique that you suggest in the patch.

Yes probably. It is still a simple scan. But you wouldn't use the mount
option for 1 TB hard drives. I just thought it could be useful for small
linux systems, like the raspberry pi that use a small SD card as root.
But as I said it is just an experiment. Thanks for your comments.

br,
Andreas Rohner

> With the best regards,
> Vyacheslav Dubeyko.
> 
>> br,
>> Andreas Rohner
>>
>>> Thanks,
>>> Vyacheslav Dubeyko.
>>>
>>> [1] https://git.kernel.org/cgit/linux/kernel/git/torvalds/linux.git/commit/?id=a9bae189542e71f91e61a4428adf6e5a7dfe8063
>>>
>>>
>>
> 
> 

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  parent reply	other threads:[~2014-01-30  6:52 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 39+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2014-01-15 10:44 Does nilfs2 do any in-place writes? Clemens Eisserer
     [not found] ` <CAFvQSYSzpX_WpUi9KpGj0pZvzhw2mfzzOqcgdj9ripXAjipmtw-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
2014-01-15 10:52   ` Vyacheslav Dubeyko
2014-01-15 11:44     ` Clemens Eisserer
     [not found]       ` <CAFvQSYTG6HBVc9iodYyvCejwf889jiwOPsVb1Hi8cDrR9pOGeg-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
2014-01-15 12:01         ` Vyacheslav Dubeyko
2014-01-15 15:23           ` Ryusuke Konishi
     [not found]             ` <20140116.002353.94325733.konishi.ryusuke-Zyj7fXuS5i5L9jVzuh4AOg@public.gmane.org>
2014-01-16 10:08               ` Vyacheslav Dubeyko
2014-01-17 22:55                 ` Ryusuke Konishi
     [not found]                   ` <20140118.075519.43661574.konishi.ryusuke-Zyj7fXuS5i5L9jVzuh4AOg@public.gmane.org>
2014-01-20 11:54                     ` [writable snapshots discussion] " Vyacheslav Dubeyko
2014-01-18  0:00                 ` Ryusuke Konishi
     [not found]                   ` <20140118.090008.194171715.konishi.ryusuke-Zyj7fXuS5i5L9jVzuh4AOg@public.gmane.org>
2014-01-28  9:25                     ` [static superblock discussion] " Vyacheslav Dubeyko
     [not found]                       ` <1390901114.2942.11.camel-dzAnj6fV1RxGeWtTaGDT1UEK6ufn8VP3@public.gmane.org>
2014-01-29 12:44                         ` Andreas Rohner
     [not found]                           ` <52E8F7A7.8010505-hi6Y0CQ0nG0@public.gmane.org>
2014-01-29 13:19                             ` Vyacheslav Dubeyko
2014-01-29 18:18                         ` Clemens Eisserer
     [not found]                           ` <CAFvQSYSu5CGxs+K6bZUCtq17PrS_paX3bXBuLBRTba_XWYGgAg-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
2014-01-30  2:46                             ` [PATCH 0/1] nilfs2: add mount option that reduces super block writes Andreas Rohner
     [not found]                               ` <cover.1391048231.git.andreas.rohner-hi6Y0CQ0nG0@public.gmane.org>
2014-01-30  2:47                                 ` [PATCH 1/1] " Andreas Rohner
     [not found]                                   ` <75ceb45c464097ab556baacf2d15d6ae4b792bb2.1391048231.git.andreas.rohner-hi6Y0CQ0nG0@public.gmane.org>
2014-01-30  6:36                                     ` Vyacheslav Dubeyko
     [not found]                                       ` <127C78C3-9D47-439C-9639-263BC453D98D-yeENwD64cLxBDgjK7y7TUQ@public.gmane.org>
2014-01-30  6:02                                         ` Andreas Rohner
     [not found]                                           ` <52E9EB06.1000504-hi6Y0CQ0nG0@public.gmane.org>
2014-01-30  7:44                                             ` Vyacheslav Dubeyko
     [not found]                                               ` <8DBE8E18-F678-44B0-A6A6-5AFEC227AA86-yeENwD64cLxBDgjK7y7TUQ@public.gmane.org>
2014-01-30  6:52                                                 ` Andreas Rohner [this message]
2014-01-30  9:48                                                 ` Andreas Rohner
     [not found]                                                   ` <52EA2002.1030809-hi6Y0CQ0nG0@public.gmane.org>
2014-01-30 11:27                                                     ` Vyacheslav Dubeyko
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2014-01-30 11:33                                                         ` Andreas Rohner
     [not found]                                                           ` <52EA38A3.8060107-hi6Y0CQ0nG0@public.gmane.org>
2014-02-01 19:05                                                             ` Clemens Eisserer
2014-01-30  3:27                                 ` [PATCH 0/1] " Andreas Rohner
2014-01-30  5:29                                 ` Ryusuke Konishi
     [not found]                                   ` <20140130.142941.55837481.konishi.ryusuke-Zyj7fXuS5i5L9jVzuh4AOg@public.gmane.org>
2014-01-30  5:59                                     ` Andreas Rohner
2014-01-30  6:29                                     ` Andreas Rohner
     [not found]                                       ` <52E9F13A.5050805-hi6Y0CQ0nG0@public.gmane.org>
2014-01-30  8:46                                         ` Ryusuke Konishi
2014-01-30  8:35                             ` [static superblock discussion] Does nilfs2 do any in-place writes? Vyacheslav Dubeyko
     [not found]                               ` <71B2806D-7CF2-4992-A588-EB73EADFFF9F-yeENwD64cLxBDgjK7y7TUQ@public.gmane.org>
2014-01-30 10:09                                 ` Clemens Eisserer
     [not found]                                   ` <CAFvQSYQ84_BsqVC_ZM77P92jkP+1dh7NexvZWg4mFE7B3wSK0A-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
2014-01-30 12:42                                     ` Vyacheslav Dubeyko
     [not found]                                       ` <AE0F313D-5934-452B-80AB-5D691AF8A4BE-yeENwD64cLxBDgjK7y7TUQ@public.gmane.org>
2014-01-30 13:09                                         ` Clemens Eisserer
     [not found]                                           ` <CAFvQSYQGDXmUit1zFZ9_LAjdLjxM-i_yR2L6pwFDX_BEdjdXxQ-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
2014-01-30 13:32                                             ` Vyacheslav Dubeyko
2014-01-30 14:03                                               ` Clemens Eisserer
     [not found]                                                 ` <CAFvQSYQ-qkXz677-obgHVN5fLQiF10-A=T2yNNAHKRcOGm_Pqw-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
2014-01-30 15:27                                                   ` Vyacheslav Dubeyko
     [not found]                                                     ` <720AFF13-6203-4A28-9850-3C2CAFF3B7BF-yeENwD64cLxBDgjK7y7TUQ@public.gmane.org>
2014-02-05 20:47                                                       ` Clemens Eisserer
     [not found]                                                         ` <CAFvQSYStT4uwxqtxATLbPOvHYjww=sw=C=f3vBi_qdu6MXAn5A-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
2014-02-07  6:43                                                           ` Vyacheslav Dubeyko
2014-01-16 10:03           ` Clemens Eisserer
     [not found]             ` <CAFvQSYSC7+dd93pRH-uok9N+A_s=1VKrfGEppu3qRTg3q=CuXQ-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
2014-01-16 10:10               ` Vyacheslav Dubeyko

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