From: Mark Trumpold <markt-qk0wvQ0ghJwAvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org>
To: Clemens Eisserer
<linuxhippy-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org>,
"linux-nilfs-u79uwXL29TY76Z2rM5mHXA@public.gmane.org"
<linux-nilfs-u79uwXL29TY76Z2rM5mHXA@public.gmane.org>
Subject: Re: Does nilfs2 do any in-place writes?
Date: Sat, 18 Jan 2014 08:25:07 -0800 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <CEFFE8EC.9A4A%markt@netqa.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAFvQSYQZtf0fsfX_7zNHdw4hVo9VHggN9F0TYEi1Fwo2ZvS4Ng-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
On 1/18/14 1:44 AM, "Clemens Eisserer" <linuxhippy-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org> wrote:
>Hi again,
>
>> Rather, the issue on the flash devices may come from the current
>> immature garbage collection algorithm. The current cleanerd only
>> supports the timestamp-based GC policy which always tries to move the
>> oldest segment first and even moves segments full of live blocks,
>> thereby shortens the lifetime of flash devices. :-(
>
>It depends - for SSDs the timestamp policy is not optimal as it leads
>to unnecessary writes.
>
>On the other hand, most cards only implement dynamic wear leveling
>(wear leveling takes only place for areas that are written to, which
>leads to very uneven wear distribution when there is mostly static
>data) and also don't have read-disturb handling.
>So for cards it is actually helpful to have the writes spread out
>evenly and as a bonus there is no need to worry about read-disturb
>effects =)
>
>Regards, Clemens
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Hi Clemens and group,
Good information. So, is it true that the logging/cow nature of
nilfs actually improves wear leveling by having 'writes spread out
evenly'?
Regards,
Mark T.
>
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Thread overview: 24+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2014-01-16 17:48 Does nilfs2 do any in-place writes? Mark Trumpold
2014-01-16 18:41 ` Clemens Eisserer
2014-01-17 6:31 ` Vyacheslav Dubeyko
2014-01-18 1:47 ` Ryusuke Konishi
[not found] ` <20140118.104703.356941870.konishi.ryusuke-Zyj7fXuS5i5L9jVzuh4AOg@public.gmane.org>
2014-01-18 9:44 ` Clemens Eisserer
[not found] ` <CAFvQSYQZtf0fsfX_7zNHdw4hVo9VHggN9F0TYEi1Fwo2ZvS4Ng-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
2014-01-18 16:25 ` Mark Trumpold [this message]
[not found] ` <CEFFE8EC.9A4A%markt-qk0wvQ0ghJwAvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org>
2014-01-18 18:11 ` Vyacheslav Dubeyko
2014-01-18 11:45 ` Andreas Rohner
[not found] ` <52DA696D.6010206-hi6Y0CQ0nG0@public.gmane.org>
2014-01-18 23:08 ` Vyacheslav Dubeyko
[not found] ` <04877EE1-F5BF-41CE-AC92-CD9C3ED0B8A4-yeENwD64cLxBDgjK7y7TUQ@public.gmane.org>
2014-01-18 23:08 ` Andreas Rohner
[not found] ` <52DB098A.4010300-hi6Y0CQ0nG0@public.gmane.org>
2014-01-19 5:43 ` Ryusuke Konishi
[not found] ` <20140119.144345.373615211.konishi.ryusuke-Zyj7fXuS5i5L9jVzuh4AOg@public.gmane.org>
2014-01-19 14:11 ` Andreas Rohner
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2014-01-17 19:19 Mark Trumpold
2014-01-16 19:40 Mark Trumpold
2014-01-15 10:44 Clemens Eisserer
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2014-01-15 10:52 ` Vyacheslav Dubeyko
2014-01-15 11:44 ` Clemens Eisserer
[not found] ` <CAFvQSYTG6HBVc9iodYyvCejwf889jiwOPsVb1Hi8cDrR9pOGeg-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
2014-01-15 12:01 ` Vyacheslav Dubeyko
2014-01-15 15:23 ` Ryusuke Konishi
[not found] ` <20140116.002353.94325733.konishi.ryusuke-Zyj7fXuS5i5L9jVzuh4AOg@public.gmane.org>
2014-01-16 10:08 ` Vyacheslav Dubeyko
2014-01-17 22:55 ` Ryusuke Konishi
2014-01-18 0:00 ` Ryusuke Konishi
2014-01-16 10:03 ` Clemens Eisserer
[not found] ` <CAFvQSYSC7+dd93pRH-uok9N+A_s=1VKrfGEppu3qRTg3q=CuXQ-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
2014-01-16 10:10 ` Vyacheslav Dubeyko
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