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From: Christoph Hellwig <hch@lst.de>
To: Sagi Grimberg <sagi@grimberg.me>
Cc: Max Gurtovoy <mgurtovoy@nvidia.com>,
	Christoph Hellwig <hch@lst.de>,
	kbusch@kernel.org, linux-nvme@lists.infradead.org,
	oren@nvidia.com, israelr@nvidia.com, dwagner@suse.de,
	oevron@nvidia.com
Subject: Re: [PATCH 5/8] nvme: sync the namespace scanning during ctrl start
Date: Wed, 31 Jan 2024 14:10:38 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20240131131038.GA25685@lst.de> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <e1ae39e7-5c82-4cd4-aa7b-eb6718827d67@grimberg.me>

On Wed, Jan 31, 2024 at 02:40:07PM +0200, Sagi Grimberg wrote:
> Max, I mentioned that I don't think it is a good idea to change the
> existing behavior, because of time, because its preventing forward
> progress, because it doesn't fix an existing issue, etc.
> I also don't think its needed.
>
> I think the original intent of this as made in discussions in the past was 
> to simply fail upon PI mismatch when nvme_init_ns_head and
> nvme_validate_ns.

Yes.

>> I think that AEN and reset flows are a bit different. The controller is 
>> free to be modified at any time (even when no Admin queue is opened from 
>> the host). It may have out-of-band management interface (for example the 
>> nvmet cli) and may not have any association (AQ) to the host to notify on 
>> changes.
>
> Fundamentally things can change before the host knows about it, hence
> I don't get the claim that somehow the host violates the spec.
>
> Do others think that now namespace scanning should block
> nvme_ctrl_start ? I personally don't but I'm open to justification
> for why it is the right thing to do.

Hell no.


  reply	other threads:[~2024-01-31 13:10 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 36+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2024-01-22 14:56 [PATCH v1 0/8] Enforce uniform metadata settings for ns head Max Gurtovoy
2024-01-22 14:56 ` [PATCH 1/8] nvme: use Independent ID-NS only for unknown cmd sets Max Gurtovoy
2024-01-23  8:58   ` Christoph Hellwig
2024-01-22 14:56 ` [PATCH 2/8] nvme: set uniform metadata settings for ns head Max Gurtovoy
2024-01-23  9:01   ` Christoph Hellwig
2024-01-22 14:56 ` [PATCH 3/8] nvme: allocate a new namespace if validation fail Max Gurtovoy
2024-01-23  9:02   ` Christoph Hellwig
2024-01-22 14:56 ` [PATCH 4/8] nvme: add nvme_queue_scan_sync helper Max Gurtovoy
2024-01-22 14:56 ` [PATCH 5/8] nvme: sync the namespace scanning during ctrl start Max Gurtovoy
2024-01-23  9:02   ` Christoph Hellwig
2024-01-24  0:47     ` Max Gurtovoy
2024-01-24  9:48       ` Christoph Hellwig
2024-01-24 10:23         ` Max Gurtovoy
2024-01-25 14:41           ` Christoph Hellwig
2024-01-25 15:55             ` Max Gurtovoy
2024-01-29 10:48               ` Sagi Grimberg
2024-01-29 12:37                 ` Max Gurtovoy
2024-01-31 12:40                   ` Sagi Grimberg
2024-01-31 13:10                     ` Christoph Hellwig [this message]
2024-01-24 12:58   ` Sagi Grimberg
2024-01-24 13:04     ` Max Gurtovoy
2024-01-24 13:10       ` Sagi Grimberg
2024-01-24 13:17         ` Max Gurtovoy
2024-01-24 13:54           ` Sagi Grimberg
2024-01-24 14:15             ` Max Gurtovoy
2024-01-22 14:56 ` [PATCH 6/8] nvme-rdma: Fix transfer length when write_generate/read_verify are 0 Max Gurtovoy
2024-01-23  9:02   ` Christoph Hellwig
2024-01-22 14:56 ` [PATCH 7/8] nvme-fabrics: add option to disallow T10-PI offload Max Gurtovoy
2024-01-22 15:13   ` Daniel Wagner
2024-01-22 15:17     ` Max Gurtovoy
2024-01-22 15:27       ` Daniel Wagner
2024-01-22 15:28         ` Daniel Wagner
2024-01-23  9:04           ` Christoph Hellwig
2024-02-01 10:40             ` Israel Rukshin
     [not found]             ` <fdd1c81f-caf3-4f34-96e8-f4d8ffc26203@nvidia.com>
2024-02-13  7:16               ` Christoph Hellwig
2024-01-22 14:56 ` [PATCH 8/8] nvme-rdma: enable user " Max Gurtovoy

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