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From: Phil Auld <pauld@redhat.com>
To: Jens Axboe <axboe@kernel.dk>
Cc: Chaitanya Kulkarni <chaitanyak@nvidia.com>,
	Saeed Mirzamohammadi <saeed.mirzamohammadi@oracle.com>,
	"linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org" <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	"linux-nvme@lists.infradead.org" <linux-nvme@lists.infradead.org>,
	Ramanan Govindarajan <ramanan.govindarajan@oracle.com>,
	Sagi Grimberg <sagi@grimberg.me>,
	Paul Webb <paul.x.webb@oracle.com>,
	Christoph Hellwig <hch@lst.de>, Keith Busch <kbusch@kernel.org>
Subject: Re: [bug-report] 5-9% FIO randomwrite ext4 perf regression on 6.12.y kernel
Date: Thu, 21 Nov 2024 06:30:58 -0500	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20241121113058.GA394828@pauld.westford.csb> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <d6049cd0-5755-48ee-87af-eb928016f95b@kernel.dk>


Hi,

On Wed, Nov 20, 2024 at 06:20:12PM -0700 Jens Axboe wrote:
> On 11/20/24 5:00 PM, Chaitanya Kulkarni wrote:
> > On 11/20/24 13:35, Saeed Mirzamohammadi wrote:
> >> Hi,
> >>
> >> I?m reporting a performance regression of up to 9-10% with FIO randomwrite benchmark on ext4 comparing 6.12.0-rc2 kernel and v5.15.161. Also, standard deviation after this change grows up to 5-6%.
> >>
> >> Bisect root cause commit
> >> ===================
> >> - commit 63dfa1004322 ("nvme: move NVME_QUIRK_DEALLOCATE_ZEROES out of nvme_config_discard?)
> >>
> >>
> >> Test details
> >> =========
> >> - readwrite=randwrite bs=4k size=1G ioengine=libaio iodepth=16 direct=1 time_based=1 ramp_time=180 runtime=1800 randrepeat=1 gtod_reduce=1
> >> - Test is on ext4 filesystem
> >> - System has 4 NVMe disks
> >>
> > 
> > Thanks a lot for the report, to narrow down this problem can you
> > please :-
> > 
> > 1. Run the same test on the raw nvme device /dev/nvme0n1 that you
> >     have used for this benchmark ?
> > 2. Run the same test on the  XFS formatted nvme device instead of ext4 ?
> > 
> > This way we will know if there is an issue only with the ext4 or
> > with other file systems are suffering from this problem too or
> > it is below the file system layer such as block layer and nvme pci driver ?
> > 
> > It will also help if you can repeat these numbers for io_uring fio io_engine
> > to narrow down this problem to know if the issue is ioengine specific.
> > 
> > Looking at the commit [1], it only sets the max value to write zeroes 
> > sectors
> > if NVME_QUIRK_DEALLOCATE_ZEROES is set, else uses the controller max
> > write zeroes value.
> 
> There's no way that commit is involved, the test as quoted doesn't even
> touch write zeroes. Hence if there really is a regression here, then
> it's either not easily bisectable, some error was injected while
> bisecting, or the test itself is bimodal.

I was just going to ask how confident we are in that bisect result.

I suspect this is the same issue I've been fighting here:

https://lore.kernel.org/lkml/20241101124715.GA689589@pauld.westford.csb/

Saeed, can you try your randwrite test after

  "echo NO_DELAY_DEQUEUE > /sys/kernel/debug/sched/features"

please?

We don't as yet have a general fix for it as it seems to be a bit of
a trade off.


Cheers,
Phil

> 
> -- 
> Jens Axboe
> 

-- 



  parent reply	other threads:[~2024-11-21 11:31 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 19+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2024-11-20 21:35 [bug-report] 5-9% FIO randomwrite ext4 perf regression on 6.12.y kernel Saeed Mirzamohammadi
2024-11-21  0:00 ` Chaitanya Kulkarni
2024-11-21  1:20   ` Jens Axboe
2024-11-21  4:57     ` Christoph Hellwig
2024-11-21 14:48       ` Jens Axboe
2024-11-21 11:30     ` Phil Auld [this message]
2024-11-21 14:49       ` Jens Axboe
     [not found]         ` <181bcb70-e0bf-4024-80b7-e79276d6eaf7@oracle.com>
2024-11-21 21:19           ` [External] : " Phil Auld
2024-11-22 12:13           ` Christoph Hellwig
2024-11-22 17:18             ` Paul Webb
2024-11-22 18:26               ` Saeed Mirzamohammadi
2024-11-22 21:09                 ` Keith Busch
2024-11-25  6:46                   ` Christoph Hellwig
2024-11-25 18:28                   ` Saeed Mirzamohammadi
2024-11-26  4:55                     ` Christoph Hellwig
2024-11-26 18:06                       ` Saeed Mirzamohammadi
2024-11-26 18:09                         ` Christoph Hellwig
2024-11-26 18:13                           ` Saeed Mirzamohammadi
2024-11-22 17:13         ` Paul Webb

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