From: Hannes Reinecke <hare@suse.de>
To: alistair23@gmail.com, chuck.lever@oracle.com, hare@kernel.org,
kernel-tls-handshake@lists.linux.dev, netdev@vger.kernel.org,
linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, linux-doc@vger.kernel.org,
linux-nvme@lists.infradead.org, linux-nfs@vger.kernel.org
Cc: kbusch@kernel.org, axboe@kernel.dk, hch@lst.de, sagi@grimberg.me,
kch@nvidia.com, Alistair Francis <alistair.francis@wdc.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v2 0/7] nvme-tcp: Support receiving KeyUpdate requests
Date: Mon, 15 Sep 2025 13:44:54 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <68e45231-8344-447d-95cc-4b95a13df353@suse.de> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20250905024659.811386-1-alistair.francis@wdc.com>
On 9/5/25 04:46, alistair23@gmail.com wrote:
> From: Alistair Francis <alistair.francis@wdc.com>
>
> The TLS 1.3 specification allows the TLS client or server to send a
> KeyUpdate. This is generally used when the sequence is about to
> overflow or after a certain amount of bytes have been encrypted.
>
> The TLS spec doesn't mandate the conditions though, so a KeyUpdate
> can be sent by the TLS client or server at any time. This includes
> when running NVMe-OF over a TLS 1.3 connection.
>
> As such Linux should be able to handle a KeyUpdate event, as the
> other NVMe side could initiate a KeyUpdate.
>
> Upcoming WD NVMe-TCP hardware controllers implement TLS support
> and send KeyUpdate requests.
>
> This series builds on top of the existing TLS EKEYEXPIRED work,
> which already detects a KeyUpdate request. We can now pass that
> information up to the NVMe layer (target and host) and then pass
> it up to userspace.
>
> Userspace (ktls-utils) will need to save the connection state
> in the keyring during the initial handshake. The kernel then
> provides the key serial back to userspace when handling a
> KeyUpdate. Userspace can use this to restore the connection
> information and then update the keys, this final process
> is similar to the initial handshake.
>
> Link: https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/html/rfc8446#section-4.6.3
>
> v2:
> - Change "key-serial" to "session-id"
> - Fix reported build failures
> - Drop tls_clear_err() function
> - Stop keep alive timer during KeyUpdate
> - Drop handshake message decoding in the NVMe layer
>
> Alistair Francis (7):
> net/handshake: Store the key serial number on completion
> net/handshake: Make handshake_req_cancel public
> net/handshake: Expose handshake_sk_destruct_req publically
> nvmet: Expose nvmet_stop_keep_alive_timer publically
> net/handshake: Support KeyUpdate message types
> nvme-tcp: Support KeyUpdate
> nvmet-tcp: Support KeyUpdate
>
> Documentation/netlink/specs/handshake.yaml | 19 +++-
> Documentation/networking/tls-handshake.rst | 4 +-
> drivers/nvme/host/tcp.c | 88 +++++++++++++++--
> drivers/nvme/target/core.c | 1 +
> drivers/nvme/target/tcp.c | 104 +++++++++++++++++++--
> include/net/handshake.h | 17 +++-
> include/uapi/linux/handshake.h | 14 +++
> net/handshake/genl.c | 5 +-
> net/handshake/handshake.h | 1 -
> net/handshake/request.c | 18 ++++
> net/handshake/tlshd.c | 46 +++++++--
> net/sunrpc/svcsock.c | 3 +-
> net/sunrpc/xprtsock.c | 3 +-
> 13 files changed, 289 insertions(+), 34 deletions(-)
>
Hey Alistair,
thanks for doing this. While the patchset itself looks okay-ish, there
are some general ideas/concerns for it:
- I have posted a patch for replacing the current 'read_sock()'
interface with a recvmsg() base workflow. That should give us
access to the 'real' control message, so it would be good if you
could fold it in.
- Olga has send a patchset fixing a security issue with control
messages; the gist is that the network code expects a 'kvec' based
msg buffer when receiving a control message. So essentially one
has to receive a message _without_ a control buffer, check for
MSG_CTRUNC, and then read the control message via kvec.
Can you ensure that your patchset follows these guidelines?
- There is no method to trigger a KeyUpdate, making it really hard
to test this feature (eg by writin a blktest for it). Ideally we
should be able to trigger it from both directions, but having just
one (eg on the target side) should be enough for starters.
A possible interface would be to implement write support to the
'tls_key' debugfs attribute; when writing the same key ID as
the one currently in use the KeyUpdate mechanism could be started.
But thanks for doing the work!
Cheers,
Hannes
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next prev parent reply other threads:[~2025-09-15 11:45 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 22+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2025-09-05 2:46 [PATCH v2 0/7] nvme-tcp: Support receiving KeyUpdate requests alistair23
2025-09-05 2:46 ` [PATCH v2 1/7] net/handshake: Store the key serial number on completion alistair23
2025-09-05 13:18 ` Simon Horman
2025-09-05 2:46 ` [PATCH v2 2/7] net/handshake: Make handshake_req_cancel public alistair23
2025-09-05 14:11 ` kernel test robot
2025-09-05 2:46 ` [PATCH v2 3/7] net/handshake: Expose handshake_sk_destruct_req publically alistair23
2025-09-05 2:46 ` [PATCH v2 4/7] nvmet: Expose nvmet_stop_keep_alive_timer publically alistair23
2025-09-05 2:46 ` [PATCH v2 5/7] net/handshake: Support KeyUpdate message types alistair23
2025-09-05 13:23 ` Simon Horman
2025-09-05 2:46 ` [PATCH v2 6/7] nvme-tcp: Support KeyUpdate alistair23
2025-09-16 13:04 ` Hannes Reinecke
2025-09-17 3:14 ` Alistair Francis
2025-09-17 10:12 ` Hannes Reinecke
2025-09-17 10:56 ` Alistair Francis
2025-09-05 2:46 ` [PATCH v2 7/7] nvmet-tcp: " alistair23
2025-09-05 5:52 ` Maurizio Lombardi
2025-09-05 13:19 ` Maurizio Lombardi
2025-09-05 13:25 ` Simon Horman
2025-09-05 14:01 ` kernel test robot
2025-09-15 11:44 ` Hannes Reinecke [this message]
2025-09-15 16:31 ` [PATCH v2 0/7] nvme-tcp: Support receiving KeyUpdate requests Olga Kornievskaia
2025-09-16 0:50 ` Alistair Francis
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