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From: Keith Busch <kbusch@kernel.org>
To: Hannes Reinecke <hare@suse.de>
Cc: Keith Busch <kbusch@meta.com>,
	linux-nvme@lists.infradead.org, sagi@grimberg.me, hch@lst.de,
	axboe@kernel.dk
Subject: Re: [PATCH RFC] nvme-tcp: allow multiple queues per hctx
Date: Mon, 21 Sep 2026 11:29:40 -0600	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <arFphFDlyHpnCv0J@kbusch-mbp> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <db8c19f8-d087-4e3c-8424-6a90760cdf16@suse.de>

On Mon, Sep 21, 2026 at 02:21:28PM +0200, Hannes Reinecke wrote:
> Interesting.
> We have so far refrained from similar attempts as the idea was that
> one CPU would be able to saturate the available bandwidth; additionally
> nvme_tcp_io_work() would be gobbling up any available data, so scheduling
> between two instances on the same queue would be pointless.

PCIe and RDMA can saturate the link with a single queue, but not TCP.
Note, this RFC specifically schedules multiple queues, not the same
queue. It is the same blk-mq hctx, but that fans out to different nvme
queues.
 
> So question would be: where does the speed up come from?

I have the workqueue unbounded, so if a batch of 4 requests comes in on
one thread, they get worked on in parallel on 4 different CPUs utilizing
different sockets. This also exploits NIC parallelisms via multiple RSS
buckets that wouldn't happen with single socket usage.

> In general not a bad idea. Especially if it helps to up our performance.
> But this really points to the same problem we're having with HW RAID
> HBAs: we have an issue if the per-queue I/O performance is below what
> the cpu can drive. Then it _does_ make sense to have more queues than\ CPUs,
> but the layout of which is beyond what blk-mq can handle.
> Ideally we should be able to handle that via blk-mq, too.

I'm still trying to see if we can achieve a similar result just by
making duplicate connections and letting the multipath policy handle the
spread. That does improve things significantly, but I'm getting worse
performance than this RFC, and I still don't know why yet. I didn't get
to work on this last week, so it's still on me to work out where it's
lacking.

> Nice topic for ALPSS ...

Thanks! We'll definitely touch on this next week.


  reply	other threads:[~2026-09-21 17:29 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 9+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2026-09-03 15:26 [PATCH RFC] nvme-tcp: allow multiple queues per hctx Keith Busch
2026-09-06  0:04 ` Sagi Grimberg
2026-09-08 14:21   ` Keith Busch
2026-09-08 17:10     ` Keith Busch
2026-09-09  5:21       ` Saravanan D
2026-09-11 21:44       ` Sagi Grimberg
2026-09-21 12:21 ` Hannes Reinecke
2026-09-21 17:29   ` Keith Busch [this message]
2026-10-06 11:03     ` Keith Busch

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