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From: Kanchan Joshi <joshi.k@samsung.com>
To: Christoph Hellwig <hch@lst.de>
Cc: axboe@kernel.dk, kbusch@kernel.org, sagi@grimberg.me,
	martin.petersen@oracle.com,
	James.Bottomley@HansenPartnership.com, brauner@kernel.org,
	viro@zeniv.linux.org.uk, jack@suse.cz, jaegeuk@kernel.org,
	jlayton@kernel.org, chuck.lever@oracle.com, bvanassche@acm.org,
	linux-nvme@lists.infradead.org, linux-fsdevel@vger.kernel.org,
	linux-f2fs-devel@lists.sourceforge.net,
	linux-block@vger.kernel.org, linux-scsi@vger.kernel.org,
	gost.dev@samsung.com, vishak.g@samsung.com,
	javier.gonz@samsung.com, Nitesh Shetty <nj.shetty@samsung.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v5 4/5] sd: limit to use write life hints
Date: Thu, 12 Sep 2024 22:01:00 +0530	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <e6ae5391-ae84-bae4-78ea-4983d04af69f@samsung.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20240912130235.GB28535@lst.de>

On 9/12/2024 6:32 PM, Christoph Hellwig wrote:
> On Tue, Sep 10, 2024 at 08:31:59PM +0530, Kanchan Joshi wrote:
>> From: Nitesh Shetty <nj.shetty@samsung.com>
>>
>> The incoming hint value maybe either lifetime hint or placement hint.
> 
> .. may either be .. ?

Sure.

>> Make SCSI interpret only temperature-based write lifetime hints.
>>
>> Signed-off-by: Nitesh Shetty <nj.shetty@samsung.com>
>> Signed-off-by: Kanchan Joshi <joshi.k@samsung.com>
>> ---
>>   drivers/scsi/sd.c | 7 ++++---
>>   1 file changed, 4 insertions(+), 3 deletions(-)
>>
>> diff --git a/drivers/scsi/sd.c b/drivers/scsi/sd.c
>> index dad3991397cf..82bd4b07314e 100644
>> --- a/drivers/scsi/sd.c
>> +++ b/drivers/scsi/sd.c
>> @@ -1191,8 +1191,8 @@ static u8 sd_group_number(struct scsi_cmnd *cmd)
>>   	if (!sdkp->rscs)
>>   		return 0;
>>   
>> -	return min3((u32)rq->write_hint, (u32)sdkp->permanent_stream_count,
>> -		    0x3fu);
>> +	return min3((u32)WRITE_LIFETIME_HINT(rq->write_hint),
> 
> No fan of the screaming WRITE_LIFETIME_HINT. 

Macros tend to. Once it becomes lowercase (inline function), it will 
stop screaming.

    Or the fact that multiple
> things are multiplexed into the single rq->write_hint field to
> start with.

Please see the response in patch #1. My worries were:
(a) adding a new field and propagating it across the stack will cause 
code duplication.
(b) to add a new field we need to carve space within inode, bio and 
request.
We had a hole in request, but it is set to vanish after ongoing 
integrity refactoring patch of Keith [1]. For inode also, there is no 
liberty at this point [2].

I think current multiplexing approach is similar to ioprio where 
multiple io priority classes/values are expressed within an int type. 
And few kernel components choose to interpret certain ioprio values at will.

And all this is still in-kernel details. Which can be changed if/when 
other factors start helping.

[1] 
https://lore.kernel.org/linux-nvme/20240911201240.3982856-2-kbusch@meta.com/
[2] 
https://lore.kernel.org/linux-nvme/20240903-erfassen-bandmitglieder-32dfaeee66b2@brauner/


  reply	other threads:[~2024-09-12 16:31 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 31+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
     [not found] <CGME20240910151040epcas5p3f47fa7ea37a35f8b44dd9174689e1bb9@epcas5p3.samsung.com>
2024-09-10 15:01 ` [PATCH v5 0/5] data placement hints and FDP Kanchan Joshi
2024-09-10 15:01   ` [PATCH v5 1/5] fs, block: refactor enum rw_hint Kanchan Joshi
2024-09-12 12:53     ` Christoph Hellwig
2024-09-12 15:50       ` Kanchan Joshi
2024-09-12 20:30         ` Bart Van Assche
2024-09-13  7:22           ` Kanchan Joshi
2024-09-10 15:01   ` [PATCH v5 2/5] fcntl: rename rw_hint_* to rw_lifetime_hint_* Kanchan Joshi
2024-09-12 12:54     ` Christoph Hellwig
2024-09-12 15:51       ` Kanchan Joshi
2024-09-10 15:01   ` [PATCH v5 3/5] fcntl: add F_{SET/GET}_RW_HINT_EX Kanchan Joshi
2024-09-10 18:48     ` Jens Axboe
2024-09-11 15:50       ` Kanchan Joshi
2024-09-12 13:01     ` Christoph Hellwig
2024-09-12 15:53       ` Kanchan Joshi
2024-09-12 20:36     ` Bart Van Assche
2024-09-13  7:15       ` Kanchan Joshi
2024-09-10 15:01   ` [PATCH v5 4/5] sd: limit to use write life hints Kanchan Joshi
2024-09-12 13:02     ` Christoph Hellwig
2024-09-12 16:31       ` Kanchan Joshi [this message]
2024-09-13  8:06         ` Christoph Hellwig
2024-09-16 13:49           ` Kanchan Joshi
2024-09-17  6:20             ` Christoph Hellwig
2024-09-17 16:03               ` Kanchan Joshi
2024-09-17 17:00                 ` Kanchan Joshi
2024-09-18  6:42                 ` Christoph Hellwig
2024-09-18  8:12                   ` Kanchan Joshi
2024-09-18 12:01                     ` Christoph Hellwig
2024-09-24  9:24                       ` Kanchan Joshi
2024-09-24  9:28                         ` Christoph Hellwig
2024-09-10 15:02   ` [PATCH v5 5/5] nvme: enable FDP support Kanchan Joshi
2025-01-29  0:56   ` [f2fs-dev] [PATCH v5 0/5] data placement hints and FDP patchwork-bot+f2fs

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