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From: Kanchan Joshi <joshi.k@samsung.com>
To: Christoph Hellwig <hch@lst.de>
Cc: axboe@kernel.dk, kbusch@kernel.org, martin.petersen@oracle.com,
	sagi@grimberg.me, linux-nvme@lists.infradead.org,
	bvanassche@acm.org, javier.gonz@samsung.com,
	gost.dev@samsung.com, Hui Qi <hui81.qi@samsung.com>,
	Nitesh Shetty <nj.shetty@samsung.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v3] nvme: enable FDP support
Date: Wed, 3 Jul 2024 14:10:24 +0530	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <f79cc36c-cd03-bb5e-2eae-3612176a474e@samsung.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20240702113954.GA15325@lst.de>

On 7/2/2024 5:09 PM, Christoph Hellwig wrote:
> Same NAK as before.  FDP was intentionally designed to not fit the
> clearly documented Linux needs.

That was not the design goal of FDP. It is ludicrous for any storage 
technology to have that as an intentional design choice.

> If you want support for Linux data
> temperature hints work with the NVMe technical working group to make
> it happen.

The value does not come from the temperature-sensitive names that we 
have in Linux. It rather comes from keeping the WAF low and from using 
Linux file-sytems. The write-hint interface, despite not being ideal, 
happens to be the only interface we got for the latter.

If/when anything different grows in the device-side, we can trivially 
change the plumbing this patch does.

People need support for what we have in current spec and more 
importantly in products. It's not a Meta/Samsung only thing. Many 
hypsercalers and enterprise customers need this.


  parent reply	other threads:[~2024-07-03  8:40 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 8+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
     [not found] <CGME20240702103348epcas5p1015eafbddf4795558843cd74b0453b12@epcas5p1.samsung.com>
2024-07-02 10:26 ` [PATCH v3] nvme: enable FDP support Kanchan Joshi
2024-07-02 11:39   ` Christoph Hellwig
2024-07-02 15:15     ` Keith Busch
2024-07-02 15:36       ` Christoph Hellwig
2024-07-02 15:49         ` Jens Axboe
2024-07-02 15:51           ` Christoph Hellwig
2024-07-03  8:40     ` Kanchan Joshi [this message]
2024-07-03 15:08       ` Christoph Hellwig

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