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From: Tomasz Figa <t.figa-Sze3O3UU22JBDgjK7y7TUQ@public.gmane.org>
To: Greg KH
	<gregkh-hQyY1W1yCW8ekmWlsbkhG0B+6BGkLq7r@public.gmane.org>,
	Stephen Warren <swarren-3lzwWm7+Weoh9ZMKESR00Q@public.gmane.org>
Cc: Kishon Vijay Abraham I <kishon-l0cyMroinI0@public.gmane.org>,
	Alan Stern
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Subject: Re: [PATCH 01/15] drivers: phy: add generic PHY framework
Date: Tue, 23 Jul 2013 19:48:11 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <19656720.FrnhefyPXl@amdc1227> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20130723173710.GB28284-U8xfFu+wG4EAvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org>

On Tuesday 23 of July 2013 10:37:11 Greg KH wrote:
> On Tue, Jul 23, 2013 at 06:50:29PM +0200, Tomasz Figa wrote:
> > > Ick, no.  Why can't you just pass the pointer to the phy itself?  If
> > > you
> > > had a "priv" pointer to search from, then you could have just passed
> > > the
> > > original phy pointer in the first place, right?
> > 
> > IMHO it would be better if you provided some code example, but let's
> > try to check if I understood you correctly.
> 
> It's not my code that I want to have added, so I don't have to write
> examples, I just get to complain about the existing stuff :)

Still, I think that some small code snippets illustrating the idea are 
really helpful.

> > 8><--------------------------------------------------------------------
> > ----
> > 
> > [Board file]
> > 
> > static struct phy my_phy;
> > 
> > static struct platform_device phy_pdev = {
> > 
> > 	/* ... */
> > 	.platform_data = &my_phy;
> > 	/* ... */
> > 
> > };
> > 
> > static struct platform_device phy_pdev = {
> > 
> > 	/* ... */
> > 	.platform_data = &my_phy;
> > 	/* ... */
> > 
> > };
> > 
> > [Provider driver]
> > 
> > struct phy *phy = pdev->dev.platform_data;
> > 
> > ret = phy_create(phy);
> > 
> > [Consumer driver]
> > 
> > struct phy *phy = pdev->dev.platform_data;
> > 
> > ret = phy_get(&pdev->dev, phy);
> > 
> > -----------------------------------------------------------------------
> > -><8
> > 
> > Is this what you mean?
> 
> No.  Well, kind of.  What's wrong with using the platform data structure
> unique to the board to have the pointer?
> 
> For example (just randomly picking one), the ata-pxa driver would change
> include/linux/platform_data/ata-pxa.h to have a phy pointer in it:
> 
> struct phy;
> 
> struct  pata_pxa_pdata {
> 	/* PXA DMA DREQ<0:2> pin */
> 	uint32_t	dma_dreq;
> 	/* Register shift */
> 	uint32_t	reg_shift;
> 	/* IRQ flags */
> 	uint32_t	irq_flags;
> 	/* PHY */
> 	struct phy	*phy;
> };
> 
> Then, when you create the platform, set the phy* pointer with a call to
> phy_create().  Then you can use that pointer wherever that plaform data
> is available (i.e. whereever platform_data is at).

Hmm? So, do you suggest to call phy_create() from board file? What phy_ops 
struct and other hardware parameters would it take?

> > > The issue is that a string "name" is not going to scale at all, as it
> > > requires hard-coded information that will change over time (as the
> > > existing clock interface is already showing.)
> > 
> > I fully agree that a simple, single string will not scale even in some,
> > not so uncommon cases, but there is already a lot of existing lookup
> > solutions over the kernel and so there is no point in introducing
> > another one.
> I'm trying to get _rid_ of lookup "solutions" and just use a real
> pointer, as you should.  I'll go tackle those other ones after this one
> is taken care of, to show how the others should be handled as well.

There was a reason for introducing lookup solutions. The reason was that in 
board file there is no way to get a pointer to something that is going to be 
created much later in time. We don't do time travel ;-).

> > > Please just pass the real "phy" pointer around, that's what it is
> > > there
> > > for.  Your "board binding" logic/code should be able to handle this,
> > > as
> > > it somehow was going to do the same thing with a "name".
> > 
> > It's technically correct, but quality of this solution isn't really
> > nice, because it's a layering violation (at least if I understood what
> > you mean). This is because you need to have full definition of struct
> > phy in board file and a structure that is used as private data in PHY
> > core comes from platform code.
> 
> No, just a pointer, you don't need the "full" structure until you get to
> some .c code that actually manipulates the phy itself, for all other
> places, you are just dealing with a pointer and a structure you never
> reference.
> 
> Does that make more sense?

Well, to the point that I think I now understood your suggestion. 
Unfortunately the suggestion alone isn't really something that can be done, 
considering how driver core and generic frameworks work.

Best regards,
Tomasz

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  parent reply	other threads:[~2013-07-23 17:48 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 99+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2013-07-18  6:46 [PATCH 00/15] PHY framework Kishon Vijay Abraham I
2013-07-18  6:46 ` [PATCH 01/15] drivers: phy: add generic " Kishon Vijay Abraham I
2013-07-18  7:20   ` Greg KH
     [not found]     ` <20130718072004.GA16720-U8xfFu+wG4EAvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org>
2013-07-18  8:59       ` Kishon Vijay Abraham I
2013-07-18 15:49         ` Greg KH
2013-07-19  5:37           ` Kishon Vijay Abraham I
2013-07-19  5:43             ` Greg KH
2013-07-19  5:55               ` Kishon Vijay Abraham I
     [not found]                 ` <51E8D4E0.8060200-l0cyMroinI0@public.gmane.org>
2013-07-19  6:29                   ` Greg KH
2013-07-19  6:36                     ` Kishon Vijay Abraham I
2013-07-19 15:54                       ` Stephen Warren
     [not found]                         ` <51E96135.9090108-3lzwWm7+Weoh9ZMKESR00Q@public.gmane.org>
2013-07-20  3:15                           ` Kishon Vijay Abraham I
2013-07-19 23:50                       ` Greg KH
2013-07-20  3:19                         ` Kishon Vijay Abraham I
     [not found]                           ` <51EA01C4.2010006-l0cyMroinI0@public.gmane.org>
2013-07-20 22:00                             ` Greg KH
     [not found]                               ` <20130720220006.GA7977-U8xfFu+wG4EAvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org>
2013-07-21  2:32                                 ` Alan Stern
2013-07-21  2:59                                   ` Greg KH
2013-07-21 10:22                                     ` Sascha Hauer
2013-07-21 15:48                                       ` Greg KH
2013-07-21 17:14                                         ` Sylwester Nawrocki
2013-07-21 19:22                                           ` Alan Stern
2013-07-22  7:25                                             ` Kishon Vijay Abraham I
     [not found]                                               ` <51ECDE5E.3050104-l0cyMroinI0@public.gmane.org>
2013-07-22 14:44                                                 ` Alan Stern
2013-07-23  5:47                                                   ` Kishon Vijay Abraham I
2013-07-23  7:29                                                   ` Tomasz Figa
2013-07-23  7:55                                                     ` Tomasz Figa
2013-07-23 14:37                                                       ` Alan Stern
2013-07-23 14:50                                                         ` Tomasz Figa
2013-07-23 15:18                                                         ` Kishon Vijay Abraham I
     [not found]                                                           ` <51EE9EC0.6060905-l0cyMroinI0@public.gmane.org>
2013-07-23 16:18                                                             ` Greg KH
2013-07-23 16:28                                                               ` Kishon Vijay Abraham I
     [not found]                                                                 ` <51EEAF32.4040905-l0cyMroinI0@public.gmane.org>
2013-07-23 16:35                                                                   ` Greg KH
2013-07-23 16:50                                                               ` Tomasz Figa
2013-07-23 17:37                                                                 ` Greg KH
2013-07-23 17:44                                                                   ` Mark Brown
2013-07-23 18:01                                                                     ` Greg KH
2013-07-23 19:31                                                                       ` Mark Brown
2013-07-23 19:44                                                                         ` Greg KH
2013-07-23 20:07                                                                           ` Tomasz Figa
2013-07-23 20:50                                                                             ` Greg KH
2013-07-23 21:05                                                                               ` Tomasz Figa
2013-07-23 21:23                                                                                 ` Greg KH
2013-07-23 23:48                                                                           ` Mark Brown
     [not found]                                                                   ` <20130723173710.GB28284-U8xfFu+wG4EAvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org>
2013-07-23 17:48                                                                     ` Tomasz Figa [this message]
2013-07-23 18:04                                                                       ` Greg KH
2013-07-23 20:46                                                                         ` Tomasz Figa
2013-07-23 19:36                                                                 ` Alan Stern
2013-07-23 20:20                                                                   ` Tomasz Figa
2013-07-23 20:53                                                                     ` Alan Stern
2013-07-23 21:02                                                                       ` Tomasz Figa
2013-07-23 21:14                                                                         ` Alan Stern
2013-07-23 21:31                                                                           ` Tomasz Figa
2013-07-24 18:32                                                                             ` Arnd Bergmann
2013-07-25  5:11                                                                               ` Kishon Vijay Abraham I
2013-07-25  7:54                                                                                 ` Arnd Bergmann
2013-07-25  9:29                                                                               ` Sylwester Nawrocki
2013-07-25  9:29                                                                               ` Mark Brown
2013-07-25 10:11                                                                                 ` Kishon Vijay Abraham I
2013-07-25 10:16                                                                               ` Laurent Pinchart
2013-07-25 10:26                                                                                 ` Florian Fainelli
2013-07-25 11:00                                                                                 ` Arnd Bergmann
2013-07-25 11:10                                                                                   ` Laurent Pinchart
2013-07-25 12:09                                                                                   ` Mark Brown
2013-07-23 17:34                                                         ` Mark Brown
2013-07-22 15:04                                               ` Greg KH
2013-07-23  5:34                                                 ` Kishon Vijay Abraham I
2013-07-21 10:31                                     ` Tomasz Figa
2013-07-21 11:07                                       ` Kishon Vijay Abraham I
2013-07-21 11:12                                         ` Tomasz Figa
2013-07-21 15:46                                           ` Greg KH
2013-07-30  7:11                                             ` Felipe Balbi
2013-07-31  5:44                                               ` Kishon Vijay Abraham I
2013-07-31  6:15                                                 ` Felipe Balbi
2013-08-13 10:44                                                   ` Kishon Vijay Abraham I
2013-08-13 11:37                                                     ` Tomasz Figa
2013-08-13 12:05                                                       ` Kishon Vijay Abraham I
2013-08-13 22:19                                                         ` Sylwester Nawrocki
2013-08-13 23:04                                                           ` Tomasz Figa
2013-08-14 15:05                                                             ` Kishon Vijay Abraham I
2013-08-19  5:28                                                               ` Kishon Vijay Abraham I
2013-08-20 12:26                                                                 ` Felipe Balbi
2013-07-18  6:46 ` [PATCH 03/15] usb: phy: twl4030: use the new " Kishon Vijay Abraham I
2013-07-18  6:46 ` [PATCH 04/15] ARM: OMAP: USB: Add phy binding information Kishon Vijay Abraham I
     [not found]   ` <1374129984-765-5-git-send-email-kishon-l0cyMroinI0@public.gmane.org>
2013-07-18  7:02     ` Tony Lindgren
2013-07-18  6:46 ` [PATCH 05/15] ARM: dts: omap: update usb_otg_hs data Kishon Vijay Abraham I
2013-07-18  7:05   ` Tony Lindgren
2013-07-18  6:46 ` [PATCH 06/15] usb: musb: omap2430: use the new generic PHY framework Kishon Vijay Abraham I
2013-07-18  6:46 ` [PATCH 07/15] usb: phy: omap-usb2: remove *set_suspend* callback from omap-usb2 Kishon Vijay Abraham I
2013-07-18  6:46 ` [PATCH 09/15] phy: Add driver for Exynos MIPI CSIS/DSIM DPHYs Kishon Vijay Abraham I
2013-07-18  6:46 ` [PATCH 10/15] video: exynos_mipi_dsim: Use the generic PHY driver Kishon Vijay Abraham I
2013-07-18  6:46 ` [PATCH 11/15] exynos4-is: Use the generic MIPI CSIS " Kishon Vijay Abraham I
     [not found] ` <1374129984-765-1-git-send-email-kishon-l0cyMroinI0@public.gmane.org>
2013-07-18  6:46   ` [PATCH 02/15] usb: phy: omap-usb2: use the new generic PHY framework Kishon Vijay Abraham I
2013-07-18  7:21     ` Greg KH
     [not found]       ` <20130718072149.GB16720-U8xfFu+wG4EAvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org>
2013-07-18  9:00         ` Kishon Vijay Abraham I
2013-07-18  6:46   ` [PATCH 08/15] usb: phy: twl4030-usb: remove *set_suspend* and *phy_init* ops Kishon Vijay Abraham I
2013-07-18  6:46   ` [PATCH 12/15] ARM: Samsung: Remove the MIPI PHY setup code Kishon Vijay Abraham I
2013-07-18  6:46 ` [PATCH 13/15] phy: Add driver for Exynos DP PHY Kishon Vijay Abraham I
2013-07-18  6:46 ` [PATCH 14/15] video: exynos_dp: remove non-DT support for Exynos Display Port Kishon Vijay Abraham I
2013-07-18  6:46 ` [PATCH 15/15] video: exynos_dp: Use the generic PHY driver Kishon Vijay Abraham I

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