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From: Tomasz Figa <t.figa@samsung.com>
To: Alan Stern <stern@rowland.harvard.edu>
Cc: Tomasz Figa <tomasz.figa@gmail.com>,
	Laurent Pinchart <laurent.pinchart@ideasonboard.com>,
	broonie@kernel.org, Kishon Vijay Abraham I <kishon@ti.com>,
	Sylwester Nawrocki <sylvester.nawrocki@gmail.com>,
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	b.z
Subject: Re: [PATCH 01/15] drivers: phy: add generic PHY framework
Date: Tue, 23 Jul 2013 16:50:52 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <2147402.ggVzZLIPLp@amdc1227> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <Pine.LNX.4.44L0.1307231017290.1304-100000@iolanthe.rowland.org>

On Tuesday 23 of July 2013 10:37:05 Alan Stern wrote:
> On Tue, 23 Jul 2013, Tomasz Figa wrote:
> > On Tuesday 23 of July 2013 09:29:32 Tomasz Figa wrote:
> > > Hi Alan,
> 
> Thanks for helping to clarify the issues here.
> 
> > > > Okay.  Are PHYs _always_ platform devices?
> > > 
> > > They can be i2c, spi or any other device types as well.
> 
> In those other cases, presumably there is no platform data associated
> with the PHY since it isn't a platform device.  Then how does the
> kernel know which controller is attached to the PHY?  Is this spelled
> out in platform data associated with the PHY's i2c/spi/whatever parent?
> 
> > > > > > 	PHY.  Currently this information is represented by name or
> > 
> > ID
> > 
> > > > > > 	strings embedded in platform data.
> > > > > 
> > > > > right. It's embedded in the platform data of the controller.
> > > > 
> > > > It must also be embedded in the PHY's platform data somehow.
> > > > Otherwise, how would the kernel know which PHY to use?
> > > 
> > > By using a PHY lookup as Stephen and I suggested in our previous
> > > replies. Without any extra data in platform data. (I have even posted
> > > a
> > > code example.)
> 
> I don't understand, because I don't know what "a PHY lookup" does.

I have provided a code example in [1]. Feel free to ask questions about 
those code snippets.

[1] http://thread.gmane.org/gmane.linux.ports.arm.kernel/252813/focus=20889

> > > > In this case, it doesn't matter where the platform_device
> > > > structures
> > > > are created or where the driver source code is.  Let's take a
> > > > simple
> > > > example.  Suppose the system design includes a PHY named "foo". 
> > > > Then
> > > > the board file could contain:
> > > > 
> > > > struct phy_info { ... } phy_foo;
> > > > EXPORT_SYMBOL_GPL(phy_foo);
> > > > 
> > > > and a header file would contain:
> > > > 
> > > > extern struct phy_info phy_foo;
> > > > 
> > > > The PHY supplier could then call phy_create(&phy_foo), and the PHY
> > > > client could call phy_find(&phy_foo).  Or something like that; make
> > > > up
> > > > your own structure tags and function names.
> > > > 
> > > > It's still possible to have conflicts, but now two PHYs with the
> > > > same
> > > > name (or a misspelled name somewhere) will cause an error at link
> > > > time.
> > > 
> > > This is incorrect, sorry. First of all it's a layering violation -
> > > you
> > > export random driver-specific symbols from one driver to another.
> > > Then
> 
> No, that's not what I said.  Neither the PHY driver nor the controller
> driver exports anything to the other.  Instead, both drivers use data
> exported by the board file.

It's still a random, driver-specific global symbol exported from board file 
to drivers.

> > > imagine 4 SoCs - A, B, C, D. There are two PHY types PHY1 and PHY2
> > > and
> > > there are two types of consumer drivers (e.g. USB host controllers).
> > > Now
> > > consider following mapping:
> > > 
> > > SoC	PHY	consumer
> > > A	PHY1	HOST1
> > > B	PHY1	HOST2
> > > C	PHY2	HOST1
> > > D	PHY2	HOST2
> > > 
> > > So we have to be able to use any of the PHYs with any of the host
> > > drivers. This means you would have to export symbol with the same
> > > name
> > > from both PHY drivers, which obviously would not work in this case,
> > > because having both drivers enabled (in a multiplatform aware
> > > configuration) would lead to linking conflict.
> 
> You're right; the scheme was too simple.  Instead, the board file must
> export two types of data structures, one for PHYs and one for
> controllers.  Like this:
> 
> struct phy_info {
> 	/* Info for the controller attached to this PHY */
> 	struct controller_info	*hinfo;
> };
> 
> struct controller_info {
> 	/* Info for the PHY which this controller is attached to */
> 	struct phy_info		*pinfo;
> };
> 
> The board file for SoC A would contain:
> 
> struct phy_info phy1 = {&host1);
> EXPORT_SYMBOL(phy1);
> struct controller_info host1 = {&phy1};
> EXPORT_SYMBOL(host1);
> 
> The board file for SoC B would contain:
> 
> struct phy_info phy1 = {&host2);
> EXPORT_SYMBOL(phy1);
> struct controller_info host2 = {&phy1};
> EXPORT_SYMBOL(host2);
> 
> And so on.  This explicitly gives the connection between PHYs and
> controllers.  The PHY providers would use &phy1 or &phy2, and the PHY
> consumers would use &host1 or &host2.

This could work assuming that only one SoC and one board is supported in 
single kernel image. However it's not the case.

We've used to support multiple boards since a long time already and now for 
selected platforms we even support multiplatform, i.e. multiple SoCs in 
single zImage. Such solution will not work.

Best regards,
Tomasz


  reply	other threads:[~2013-07-23 14:50 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 99+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2013-07-18  6:46 [PATCH 00/15] PHY framework Kishon Vijay Abraham I
2013-07-18  6:46 ` [PATCH 01/15] drivers: phy: add generic " Kishon Vijay Abraham I
2013-07-18  7:20   ` Greg KH
     [not found]     ` <20130718072004.GA16720-U8xfFu+wG4EAvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org>
2013-07-18  8:59       ` Kishon Vijay Abraham I
2013-07-18 15:49         ` Greg KH
2013-07-19  5:37           ` Kishon Vijay Abraham I
2013-07-19  5:43             ` Greg KH
2013-07-19  5:55               ` Kishon Vijay Abraham I
     [not found]                 ` <51E8D4E0.8060200-l0cyMroinI0@public.gmane.org>
2013-07-19  6:29                   ` Greg KH
2013-07-19  6:36                     ` Kishon Vijay Abraham I
2013-07-19 15:54                       ` Stephen Warren
     [not found]                         ` <51E96135.9090108-3lzwWm7+Weoh9ZMKESR00Q@public.gmane.org>
2013-07-20  3:15                           ` Kishon Vijay Abraham I
2013-07-19 23:50                       ` Greg KH
2013-07-20  3:19                         ` Kishon Vijay Abraham I
     [not found]                           ` <51EA01C4.2010006-l0cyMroinI0@public.gmane.org>
2013-07-20 22:00                             ` Greg KH
     [not found]                               ` <20130720220006.GA7977-U8xfFu+wG4EAvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org>
2013-07-21  2:32                                 ` Alan Stern
2013-07-21  2:59                                   ` Greg KH
2013-07-21 10:22                                     ` Sascha Hauer
2013-07-21 15:48                                       ` Greg KH
2013-07-21 17:14                                         ` Sylwester Nawrocki
2013-07-21 19:22                                           ` Alan Stern
2013-07-22  7:25                                             ` Kishon Vijay Abraham I
     [not found]                                               ` <51ECDE5E.3050104-l0cyMroinI0@public.gmane.org>
2013-07-22 14:44                                                 ` Alan Stern
2013-07-23  5:47                                                   ` Kishon Vijay Abraham I
2013-07-23  7:29                                                   ` Tomasz Figa
2013-07-23  7:55                                                     ` Tomasz Figa
2013-07-23 14:37                                                       ` Alan Stern
2013-07-23 14:50                                                         ` Tomasz Figa [this message]
2013-07-23 15:18                                                         ` Kishon Vijay Abraham I
     [not found]                                                           ` <51EE9EC0.6060905-l0cyMroinI0@public.gmane.org>
2013-07-23 16:18                                                             ` Greg KH
2013-07-23 16:28                                                               ` Kishon Vijay Abraham I
     [not found]                                                                 ` <51EEAF32.4040905-l0cyMroinI0@public.gmane.org>
2013-07-23 16:35                                                                   ` Greg KH
2013-07-23 16:50                                                               ` Tomasz Figa
2013-07-23 17:37                                                                 ` Greg KH
2013-07-23 17:44                                                                   ` Mark Brown
2013-07-23 18:01                                                                     ` Greg KH
2013-07-23 19:31                                                                       ` Mark Brown
2013-07-23 19:44                                                                         ` Greg KH
2013-07-23 20:07                                                                           ` Tomasz Figa
2013-07-23 20:50                                                                             ` Greg KH
2013-07-23 21:05                                                                               ` Tomasz Figa
2013-07-23 21:23                                                                                 ` Greg KH
2013-07-23 23:48                                                                           ` Mark Brown
     [not found]                                                                   ` <20130723173710.GB28284-U8xfFu+wG4EAvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org>
2013-07-23 17:48                                                                     ` Tomasz Figa
2013-07-23 18:04                                                                       ` Greg KH
2013-07-23 20:46                                                                         ` Tomasz Figa
2013-07-23 19:36                                                                 ` Alan Stern
2013-07-23 20:20                                                                   ` Tomasz Figa
2013-07-23 20:53                                                                     ` Alan Stern
2013-07-23 21:02                                                                       ` Tomasz Figa
2013-07-23 21:14                                                                         ` Alan Stern
2013-07-23 21:31                                                                           ` Tomasz Figa
2013-07-24 18:32                                                                             ` Arnd Bergmann
2013-07-25  5:11                                                                               ` Kishon Vijay Abraham I
2013-07-25  7:54                                                                                 ` Arnd Bergmann
2013-07-25  9:29                                                                               ` Sylwester Nawrocki
2013-07-25  9:29                                                                               ` Mark Brown
2013-07-25 10:11                                                                                 ` Kishon Vijay Abraham I
2013-07-25 10:16                                                                               ` Laurent Pinchart
2013-07-25 10:26                                                                                 ` Florian Fainelli
2013-07-25 11:00                                                                                 ` Arnd Bergmann
2013-07-25 11:10                                                                                   ` Laurent Pinchart
2013-07-25 12:09                                                                                   ` Mark Brown
2013-07-23 17:34                                                         ` Mark Brown
2013-07-22 15:04                                               ` Greg KH
2013-07-23  5:34                                                 ` Kishon Vijay Abraham I
2013-07-21 10:31                                     ` Tomasz Figa
2013-07-21 11:07                                       ` Kishon Vijay Abraham I
2013-07-21 11:12                                         ` Tomasz Figa
2013-07-21 15:46                                           ` Greg KH
2013-07-30  7:11                                             ` Felipe Balbi
2013-07-31  5:44                                               ` Kishon Vijay Abraham I
2013-07-31  6:15                                                 ` Felipe Balbi
2013-08-13 10:44                                                   ` Kishon Vijay Abraham I
2013-08-13 11:37                                                     ` Tomasz Figa
2013-08-13 12:05                                                       ` Kishon Vijay Abraham I
2013-08-13 22:19                                                         ` Sylwester Nawrocki
2013-08-13 23:04                                                           ` Tomasz Figa
2013-08-14 15:05                                                             ` Kishon Vijay Abraham I
2013-08-19  5:28                                                               ` Kishon Vijay Abraham I
2013-08-20 12:26                                                                 ` Felipe Balbi
2013-07-18  6:46 ` [PATCH 03/15] usb: phy: twl4030: use the new " Kishon Vijay Abraham I
2013-07-18  6:46 ` [PATCH 04/15] ARM: OMAP: USB: Add phy binding information Kishon Vijay Abraham I
     [not found]   ` <1374129984-765-5-git-send-email-kishon-l0cyMroinI0@public.gmane.org>
2013-07-18  7:02     ` Tony Lindgren
2013-07-18  6:46 ` [PATCH 05/15] ARM: dts: omap: update usb_otg_hs data Kishon Vijay Abraham I
2013-07-18  7:05   ` Tony Lindgren
2013-07-18  6:46 ` [PATCH 06/15] usb: musb: omap2430: use the new generic PHY framework Kishon Vijay Abraham I
2013-07-18  6:46 ` [PATCH 07/15] usb: phy: omap-usb2: remove *set_suspend* callback from omap-usb2 Kishon Vijay Abraham I
2013-07-18  6:46 ` [PATCH 09/15] phy: Add driver for Exynos MIPI CSIS/DSIM DPHYs Kishon Vijay Abraham I
2013-07-18  6:46 ` [PATCH 10/15] video: exynos_mipi_dsim: Use the generic PHY driver Kishon Vijay Abraham I
2013-07-18  6:46 ` [PATCH 11/15] exynos4-is: Use the generic MIPI CSIS " Kishon Vijay Abraham I
     [not found] ` <1374129984-765-1-git-send-email-kishon-l0cyMroinI0@public.gmane.org>
2013-07-18  6:46   ` [PATCH 02/15] usb: phy: omap-usb2: use the new generic PHY framework Kishon Vijay Abraham I
2013-07-18  7:21     ` Greg KH
     [not found]       ` <20130718072149.GB16720-U8xfFu+wG4EAvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org>
2013-07-18  9:00         ` Kishon Vijay Abraham I
2013-07-18  6:46   ` [PATCH 08/15] usb: phy: twl4030-usb: remove *set_suspend* and *phy_init* ops Kishon Vijay Abraham I
2013-07-18  6:46   ` [PATCH 12/15] ARM: Samsung: Remove the MIPI PHY setup code Kishon Vijay Abraham I
2013-07-18  6:46 ` [PATCH 13/15] phy: Add driver for Exynos DP PHY Kishon Vijay Abraham I
2013-07-18  6:46 ` [PATCH 14/15] video: exynos_dp: remove non-DT support for Exynos Display Port Kishon Vijay Abraham I
2013-07-18  6:46 ` [PATCH 15/15] video: exynos_dp: Use the generic PHY driver Kishon Vijay Abraham I

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