[parisc-linux] Palinux on a 712/60

[parisc-linux] Palinux on a 712/60

[Ian Zink]

I have a hp 712/60 I was trying to get loaded with Pa-linux. I'm using the
0.5 version of the Pa-linux cd. If I boot right off the CD it all loads
until it gets to Switching to PDC. At that point nothing happens. From I
have read the list, that is because the kernel is switching the text
console. However, the 712s don't have consoles. From what I have also read
the CD should work if you pass the kernel the parameter console=tty. So I
tried to  "boot scsi.2.0 isl" from the boot_admin prompt. It gave me the
PALO ISL, but I could not choose which line I wanted to edit. Further, I
couldn't even type "b" to boot. I don't know if the isl is freezing or what
is taking place
	What I am wondering is there a way to boot a 712/80 without having
to get cross-compiler gcc, compile the kernel, etc. Is there someway I could
add the ramdisk-sti.tgz on the ISO to make it work? If so, what would need
to be done?

Thanks,

Ian Zink, Systems Engineer
Maryville Technologies
540 Maryville Centre, Suite 300
St. Louis, MO  63141
636/519-4182
(FAX) 636/519-4141
ian.zink@maryville.com  
www.maryville.com

Re: [parisc-linux] Palinux on a 712/60

[Grant Grundler]

Ian Zink wrote:
> I have a hp 712/60 I was trying to get loaded with Pa-linux. I'm using the
> 0.5 version of the Pa-linux cd. If I boot right off the CD it all loads
> until it gets to Switching to PDC. At that point nothing happens. From I
> have read the list, that is because the kernel is switching the text
> console. However, the 712s don't have consoles.

712s have consoles. They have two outputs which can be used as
console by linux. The STI consoles (VGA-like spigot) and serial.
Connect a serial cable 9600-8-n-1 and run minicom at the other end.

>  From what I have also read
> the CD should work if you pass the kernel the parameter console=tty. So I
> tried to  "boot scsi.2.0 isl" from the boot_admin prompt. It gave me the
> PALO ISL, but I could not choose which line I wanted to edit. Further, I
> couldn't even type "b" to boot. I don't know if the isl is freezing or what
> is taking place

That's a different problem...pb?

> 	What I am wondering is there a way to boot a 712/80 without having
> to get cross-compiler gcc, compile the kernel, etc.

The CD was intended to also work on the 712 even though we may not have
tested on it.

> Is there someway I could
> add the ramdisk-sti.tgz on the ISO to make it work? If so, what would need
> to be done?

no clue. anyone else?

grant

Grant Grundler
Unix Systems Enablement Lab
+1.408.447.7253

RE: [parisc-linux] Palinux on a 712/60

[Ian Zink]

Thanks for the reply, Grant. However, the 712s do not have a serial console.
They do have a com port, but it does not work as a console, unfortunately.
So I need do need to get a STI enabled kernel. I dropped Paul Lahaie a note
to see if he could send me such a kernel so I do not have to create the
entire cross-platform development environment just to boot one of these
712s. After I get it, I plan on expanding the 0.5 iso and making a new one
using the STI console kernel.

Ian

Re: [parisc-linux] Palinux on a 712/60

[Grant Grundler]

Ian Zink wrote:
> Thanks for the reply, Grant. However, the 712s do not have a serial console.
> They do have a com port, but it does not work as a console, unfortunately.

It does for linux. That's what the "Switching from PDC Console" is about.
Connect the serial cable to the com port and look at the output.
I've done it in the past and know it worked at least once.
I haven't tried it with the lasted ISO - no time to play w/712's now.

> So I need do need to get a STI enabled kernel. I dropped Paul Lahaie a note
> to see if he could send me such a kernel...

Paul just sent mail to the list indicating he's working on console issues.
Please let him work on it.
Trust me, he'll tell us when he's done. :^)

grant

RE: [parisc-linux] Palinux on a 712/60

[Arnaud.ATOCH]

Hi,

I got a couple of 715 and I'd love having access to an ISO image with STI
console kernel too.

-----Original Message-----
From: Ian Zink [mailto:ian.zink@maryville.com]
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Thanks for the reply, Grant. However, the 712s do not have a serial console.
They do have a com port, but it does not work as a console, unfortunately.
So I need do need to get a STI enabled kernel. I dropped Paul Lahaie a note
to see if he could send me such a kernel so I do not have to create the
entire cross-platform development environment just to boot one of these
712s. After I get it, I plan on expanding the 0.5 iso and making a new one
using the STI console kernel.

Ian

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Re: [parisc-linux] Palinux on a 712/60

[Andrew Shugg]

Arnaud.ATOCH@oecd.org said:
> Hi,
> 
> I got a couple of 715 and I'd love having access to an ISO image with STI
> console kernel too.

I've never made an El Torito CDROM, is it possible to have multiple boot
images and a boot loader on a single disc?  ie could the actual boot
image be a boot loader (PALO) which then points at one or more kernels
on the CDROM?

Andrew.

--
Andrew Shugg <andrew@neep.com.au>                   http://www.neep.com.au/

"Just remember, Mr Fawlty, there's always someone worse off than yourself."
"Is there?  Well I'd like to meet him.  I could do with a good laugh."

Re: [parisc-linux] Palinux on a 712/60

[Thomas Marteau]

Hi Ian,

    If you like to see a linux kernel booting on your 712, you can donwload
a fully operationnal root file system with the STI console and an extra
terminal with
the RS232 port at
http://www.esiee.fr/puffin

You have also all the info to make a bootable hard disk so try it and give
us feedback...

Bye,
Thomas Marteau
ESIEE Team

Re: [parisc-linux] Palinux on a 712/60

[Matt Taggart]

Andrew Shugg writes...

> Arnaud.ATOCH@oecd.org said:
> > Hi,
> > 
> > I got a couple of 715 and I'd love having access to an ISO image with STI
> > console kernel too.
> 
> I've never made an El Torito CDROM, is it possible to have multiple boot
> images and a boot loader on a single disc?

El Torito is a PC thing. It makes the front of a CDROM look like a floppy to 
the PC BIOS. For hppa you put a lifimage on the front of the CDROM(or tape or 
HDD, etc).

> ie could the actual boot
> image be a boot loader (PALO) which then points at one or more kernels
> on the CDROM?

Maybe. Paul Bame is the expert though. I think he had to do some work to get 
palo to be able to see a kernel on an ISO9660 filesystem. I don't know if it 
can currently be interruped and pointed at a different kernel. Paul?

-- 
Matt Taggart
taggart@fc.hp.com

Re: [parisc-linux] Palinux on a 712/60

[Kaj-Michael Lang]

> Thanks for the reply, Grant. However, the 712s do not have a serial
console.

Yes it does.. it's just  undocumented. Unfortunately I don't have the
information here, but
I have succesfully changed the console to serial on one of my 712.

Kaj-Michael Lang
milang@tal.org