[parisc-linux] Burning CD Images difficulties: revisited

[parisc-linux] Burning CD Images difficulties: revisited

[Jeffo]

Hello all!
I hope this is the right place for posting such a question:

- I´ve tried MANY times  (5) burning an PA-RISC image to a bootable CD.
Couldn´t make my system
boot from the CD though...the image I´m talking about is this one:
http://pateam.esiee.fr/cd-images/palinux-0.9.3.iso

I have a 712/60 HP station, with an external SCSI CD-rom drive. The drive is
at ID "scsi.3.0".
I do the boot search after the POST routine, it finds my SCSI drive, its
brand and everything else.

When I try to boot from the CD the station simply does nothing. It tryes to
boot and returns
to the BOOT_ADMIN screen. ONCE I could get a message like "loading the
stuff, etc....OPS, KERNEL something".
And only ONCE...in one of the first CDs.

I did an extensive search on the Internet regarding this subject, and used
all hints found for
the burning software (yes, I´m burning on XP, unfortunately all linuxes I´ve
found doens´t
have CD writers)...used Nero 5.5, CDRWin 4.0B and Blindwrite. None of them
seem to burn this image
correctly. And I say that with the knowledge after burning many, many
applications, games, etc
onto CD-R. Protected or not. For AIX, for Windows, for Solaris.
Weird...

The simptoms are:

- If I load the CD on a windows machine, everything seems to be fine,
DESPITE all filenames
being in CAPS... (bad sign?)
- On the 712/60 it won´t boot.
- After booting into HP-UX, if I try to mount the CD it takes a looong time
and then the OS finally mounts it, but all filenames are capitalised AND
SOMETIMES, the ";1" suffix is appended to every filename. I´ve seen
something about that on Nero, but on tabs that you simply cannot change.
(something like "doesn´t append ;1 on...")
- I contacted a friend and co-worker which is a "Linux" guy, but he wasn´t
willing to help much..
- Things that I´ve read on the net like "Search the iso or the CD for the
#8000 sector and see if the MAGIC word is on there (CD001) and IT IS in all
Cds I´ve searched.

I am REALLY interested in putting this thing to run up on my HP
station....but I´m having a hard time...

Maybe someone could give some help?

Thanks for now.
[ ]s,
Jeffo - Brazil.

RE: [parisc-linux] Burning CD Images difficulties: revisited

[jsoe0708]

Hello Jeffo,

>-- Original Message --
>From: "Jeffo" <jeffo@pop.hsbc.com.br>
>To: <parisc-linux@lists.parisc-linux.org>
>Subject: [parisc-linux] Burning CD Images difficulties: revisited
>Date: Wed, 9 Oct 2002 13:26:38 -0300
>
>
>Hello all!
>I hope this is the right place for posting such a question:
>
>- I?ve tried MANY times  (5) burning an PA-RISC image to a bootable CD.
>Couldn?t make my system
>boot from the CD though...the image I?m talking about is this one:
>http://pateam.esiee.fr/cd-images/palinux-0.9.3.iso
>

I also used this CD (a long long time ago) to install also a 712/60 and do
not met any problem (not mentionned in FAQ).
So the first think I would do before burning my CD is to check with md5sum
the imaged downloaded.
If it is Ok check the burned image (dd if=/dev/rdsk/c1t2d0 of=- | md5sum;
should work).


>I have a 712/60 HP station, with an external SCSI CD-rom drive. The drive
>is
>at ID "scsi.3.0".
>I do the boot search after the POST routine, it finds my SCSI drive, its
>brand and everything else.
>
>When I try to boot from the CD the station simply does nothing. It tryes
>to
>boot and returns
>to the BOOT_ADMIN screen. ONCE I could get a message like "loading the
>stuff, etc....OPS, KERNEL something".
>And only ONCE...in one of the first CDs.
>
It should be that the begining of the CD is Ok but corrupted else where?

Goog luck,
    Joel

PS: md5sum for hpux should be available near: <http://hpux.connect.org.uk/>
(or a repository)

Re: [parisc-linux] Burning CD Images difficulties: revisited

[Chuck Slivkoff]

On Wednesday, Oct 9, 2002, at 12:26 US/Eastern, Jeffo wrote:

> - I=B4ve tried MANY times  (5) burning an PA-RISC image to a bootable =
CD.
> Couldn=B4t make my system
> boot from the CD though...the image I=B4m talking about is this one:
> http://pateam.esiee.fr/cd-images/palinux-0.9.3.iso
>
> I have a 712/60 HP station, with an external SCSI CD-rom drive. The=20
> drive is
> at ID "scsi.3.0".
> I do the boot search after the POST routine, it finds my SCSI drive,=20=

> its
> brand and everything else.
>
> When I try to boot from the CD the station simply does nothing. It=20
> tryes to
> boot and returns
> to the BOOT_ADMIN screen. ONCE I could get a message like "loading the
> stuff, etc....OPS, KERNEL something".
> And only ONCE...in one of the first CDs.

Assuming that the ISO md5sum matches, I would suggest that you try=20
another CD drive. Also, if you have DIP switches/jumpers on the drive,=20=

make sure that the sector size is set to 512 and not 2048.

Have you burned other disks and successfully read them in this drive?=20
Under HP-UX? Perhaps try CDR/RW media with different dyes (ie, blue,=20
black, green, etc)?

RE: [parisc-linux] Burning CD Images difficulties: revisited

["Beerse, Corné"]

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> -----Original Message-----
> From: Jeffo [mailto:jeffo@pop.hsbc.com.br]
> Hello all!
> I hope this is the right place for posting such a question:
> 
> - I´ve tried MANY times  (5) burning an PA-RISC image to a 
> bootable CD.
> Couldn´t make my system
> boot from the CD though...the image I´m talking about is this one:
> http://pateam.esiee.fr/cd-images/palinux-0.9.3.iso

Other replies indicate how to test the image.

> 
> I have a 712/60 HP station, with an external SCSI CD-rom 
> drive. The drive is
> at ID "scsi.3.0".
> I do the boot search after the POST routine, it finds my SCSI 
> drive, its
> brand and everything else.

What brand is it? Run-time, there are no special requirements.

> 
> When I try to boot from the CD the station simply does 
> nothing. It tryes to boot and returns
> to the BOOT_ADMIN screen. ONCE I could get a message like "loading the
> stuff, etc....OPS, KERNEL something".
> And only ONCE...in one of the first CDs.

Boot time, the HP bootloader requires 2KByte block size. Most (if not all)
CDRom players use 512Byte blocksize by default. Try to figure out if your
CDRom can do a 2KByte blocksize.

> 
> I did an extensive search on the Internet regarding this 
> subject, and used all hints found for
> the burning software (yes, I´m burning on XP, unfortunately 
> all linuxes I´ve found doens´t
> have CD writers)...used Nero 5.5, CDRWin 4.0B and Blindwrite. 
> None of them seem to burn this image
> correctly. And I say that with the knowledge after burning many, many
> applications, games, etc
> onto CD-R. Protected or not. For AIX, for Windows, for Solaris.
> Weird...

As above, most likely, the image is not the problem, it's the blocksize the
drive provides to the system.

> 
> The simptoms are:
> 
> - If I load the CD on a windows machine, everything seems to be fine,
> DESPITE all filenames being in CAPS... (bad sign?)

iso9660 is a single-case (that's the all-caps) and versioned (that's the ;1)
filesystem.

> - On the 712/60 it won´t boot.
> - After booting into HP-UX, if I try to mount the CD it takes 
> a looong time and then the OS finally mounts it, but all filenames are 
> capitalised AND SOMETIMES, the ";1" suffix is appended to every filename.
I´ve seen
> something about that on Nero, but on tabs that you simply  cannot change.
> (something like "doesn´t append ;1 on...")
> - I contacted a friend and co-worker which is a "Linux" guy, 
> but he wasn´t willing to help much..
> - Things that I´ve read on the net like "Search the iso or 
> the CD for the #8000 sector and see if the MAGIC word is on there (CD001) 
> and IT IS in all Cds I´ve searched.
> 
> I am REALLY interested in putting this thing to run up on my HP
> station....but I´m having a hard time...

If you have no success on the CDRom player, try a netboot if you have an
other machine around. Check the website for more info. A search key can be
"bootp" since that's the network boot protocol.




Success
CBee

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Re: [parisc-linux] Burning CD Images difficulties: revisited

[Jeffo]

IT WORKED!


The difference?  Burn the .ISO on Easy CD Creator.

That´s all.

Thanks.

Re: [parisc-linux] Burning CD Images difficulties: revisited

[jsoe0708]

>-- Original Message --
>From: "Jeffo" <jeffo@pop.hsbc.com.br>
>To: <parisc-linux@lists.parisc-linux.org>
>Subject: Re: [parisc-linux] Burning CD Images difficulties: revisited
>Date: Thu, 10 Oct 2002 10:28:01 -0300
>
>
>IT WORKED!
>
>
>The difference?  Burn the .ISO on Easy CD Creator.
>
>That?s all.
>
>Thanks.
>
great and enjoy,
    Joel