[parisc-linux] Hi

[parisc-linux] Hi

[Matthew Wilcox]

I'd just like to introduce myself.  I've liberated a 715/33 Apollo from
use as a monitor stand and managed to retrieve all the pieces needed to
get it as far as a boot prom prompt.  It's got 56MB of RAM and a hard disc
of some description.  I've got it attached to the ethernet, though I have
no idea whether this is working right now.  I don't however have anything
to boot right now - apparently this disc was used for swap when this
workstations was running HP-UX in the dim distant past (you should see
the dust).

I have no previous experience of the HP architecture, but I'm a dab hand
at ARM assembler and I'm willing to learn.  Anyway, here I am with a
machine, ready to help.  

-- 
Matthew Wilcox <willy@bofh.ai>
"Windows and MacOS are products, contrived by engineers in the service of
specific companies. Unix, by contrast, is not so much a product as it is a
painstakingly compiled oral history of the hacker subculture." - N Stephenson

Re: [parisc-linux] Hi

[Philipp Rumpf]

> I'd just like to introduce myself.  I've liberated a 715/33 Apollo from
> use as a monitor stand and managed to retrieve all the pieces needed to
> get it as far as a boot prom prompt.  It's got 56MB of RAM and a hard disc
> of some description.  I've got it attached to the ethernet, though I have
> no idea whether this is working right now.  I don't however have anything
> to boot right now - apparently this disc was used for swap when this
> workstations was running HP-UX in the dim distant past (you should see
> the dust).

I think you have the choice to either wait til Linux is bootable or get a
second hard disk and an HP-UX on it. The disks should be narrow SCSI so the
second disk shouldn't really be much of a problem.

> I have no previous experience of the HP architecture, but I'm a dab hand
> at ARM assembler and I'm willing to learn.  Anyway, here I am with a
> machine, ready to help.  

OK, first I propose you look at www.thepuffingroup.com/parisc and get just
about everything linked from the Documentation section. What is most important
to get a kernel working fast is acd.pdf (ARM), the runtime architecture document
and perhaps pdc and iodc descriptions.

I think it should be theoretically possible to put the disk in a supported
machine, cross-build a kernel and bootloader (oh yeah, perhaps you should
fix the problems with that first ;), put it back into the PARISC aso. but
just getting a version of HP-UX and a second disk seems easier to me.

	Philipp Rumpf

Re: [parisc-linux] Hi

[Grant Grundler]

Philipp Rumpf wrote:
> > I'd just like to introduce myself.  I've liberated a 715/33 Apollo from
> > use as a monitor stand and managed to retrieve all the pieces needed to
> > get it as far as a boot prom prompt.  It's got 56MB of RAM and a hard disc
> > of some description.  I've got it attached to the ethernet, though I have
> > no idea whether this is working right now.  I don't however have anything
> > to boot right now - apparently this disc was used for swap when this
> > workstations was running HP-UX in the dim distant past (you should see
> > the dust).
> 
> I think you have the choice to either wait til Linux is bootable or get a
> second hard disk and an HP-UX on it. The disks should be narrow SCSI so the
> second disk shouldn't really be much of a problem.

Mathew can also download and try to install the PA-mklinux.
I have this running on a 712/60 now. I suggest this because
I don't know how accessible HP-UX bits are to the general public.
HP-UX is usually distributed on CD-ROM these days.

Since the source is available for mk-linux, that would suppliment
the PA architecture documentation and might provide the kind of
implementation detail someone experienced in assembler could use.

grant

> 
> > I have no previous experience of the HP architecture, but I'm a dab hand
> > at ARM assembler and I'm willing to learn.  Anyway, here I am with a
> > machine, ready to help.  
> 
> OK, first I propose you look at www.thepuffingroup.com/parisc and get just
> about everything linked from the Documentation section. What is most importan
>   t
> to get a kernel working fast is acd.pdf (ARM), the runtime architecture docum
>   ent
> and perhaps pdc and iodc descriptions.
> 
> I think it should be theoretically possible to put the disk in a supported
> machine, cross-build a kernel and bootloader (oh yeah, perhaps you should
> fix the problems with that first ;), put it back into the PARISC aso. but
> just getting a version of HP-UX and a second disk seems easier to me.
> 
> 	Philipp Rumpf
> 
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Grant Grundler
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Re: [parisc-linux] Hi

[Matthew Wilcox]

On Wed, May 12, 1999 at 07:42:27PM +0000, Philipp Rumpf wrote:
> > I don't however have anything
> > to boot right now - apparently this disc was used for swap when this
> > workstations was running HP-UX in the dim distant past (you should see
> > the dust).

> I think you have the choice to either wait til Linux is bootable or get a
> second hard disk and an HP-UX on it. The disks should be narrow SCSI so the
> second disk shouldn't really be much of a problem.

That might be feasible.  Is there no netbooting software available?
I've used RARP, BOOTP and TFTP to load a sun3 kernel before and the
HP seems to be looking for a network host to respond.

-- 
Matthew Wilcox <willy@bofh.ai>
"Windows and MacOS are products, contrived by engineers in the service of
specific companies. Unix, by contrast, is not so much a product as it is a
painstakingly compiled oral history of the hacker subculture." - N Stephenson

Re: [parisc-linux] Hi

[Matthew Wilcox]

On Wed, May 12, 1999 at 01:00:04PM -0700, Grant Grundler wrote:
> Mathew can also download and try to install the PA-mklinux.
> I have this running on a 712/60 now. I suggest this because
> I don't know how accessible HP-UX bits are to the general public.
> HP-UX is usually distributed on CD-ROM these days.

Alas, no.  The 715/33 is the one machine that mklinux does not support;
I looked at that about 6 months ago.

-- 
Matthew Wilcox <willy@bofh.ai>
"Windows and MacOS are products, contrived by engineers in the service of
specific companies. Unix, by contrast, is not so much a product as it is a
painstakingly compiled oral history of the hacker subculture." - N Stephenson

Re: [parisc-linux] Hi

[Tom Javen]

On Wed, 12 May 1999, Matthew Wilcox wrote:

> On Wed, May 12, 1999 at 01:00:04PM -0700, Grant Grundler wrote:
> > Mathew can also download and try to install the PA-mklinux.
> > I have this running on a 712/60 now. I suggest this because
> > I don't know how accessible HP-UX bits are to the general public.
> > HP-UX is usually distributed on CD-ROM these days.
> 
> Alas, no.  The 715/33 is the one machine that mklinux does not support;
> I looked at that about 6 months ago.
Have you looked at OpenBSD ?


Tom
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Re: [parisc-linux] Hi

[Hugo van der Kooij]

On Fri, 14 May 1999, Tom Javen wrote:

> On Wed, 12 May 1999, Matthew Wilcox wrote:
> 
> > On Wed, May 12, 1999 at 01:00:04PM -0700, Grant Grundler wrote:
> > > Mathew can also download and try to install the PA-mklinux.
> > > I have this running on a 712/60 now. I suggest this because
> > > I don't know how accessible HP-UX bits are to the general public.
> > > HP-UX is usually distributed on CD-ROM these days.
> > 
> > Alas, no.  The 715/33 is the one machine that mklinux does not support;
> > I looked at that about 6 months ago.
> Have you looked at OpenBSD ?

I don't know wether he did. But I was unable to find anything beyond HP-UX
to run on the HP 715/33 hardware. So I am hoping this machine will join
the TUX family before the end of this year. (Not intended to push anyone
but I am rather optimistic now some of the persons with intimate kernel
knowledge are part of the team.)

Hugo.

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